Think to be fair when a Solicitor was mentioned when Adi did he statement you knew something big was up.I don't know why some people aren't understanding this. It's been made pretty clear without ITKs, the club or local media being able to say it outright for obvious reasons.
Guess some people just prefer the idea that King or Dr Roberts forced him out against Robins will.
Im sorry but i cant see this and not comment.
We have 5 points this season from a possible 18. Not 6 from 36. Last season is last season, its not relevant anymore thats why the table restarts at 0 in August.
Any talk of sacking Robins now comes from entitled fickle fans that fell for the HMS Piss the League narrative. We have started slow in both previous seasons that 1) saw us reach the play off final and 2) make a decent challenge for the playoffs before the cup run took over and drained the camps resources.
We were bottom of the league at this point in that year we reached the play off final. It absolutely does not matter what position you are in at this point of the year. Do you know who was top of the league last year 6 games in? PRESTON and where did they finish?
A lot of the disgruntlement comes from fans own created narratives and quite frankly the leaks have stopped and we know barely anything of what is happening behind the scenes.
Also, the calls to get Adi back, but sack Robins? Sorry do you want the band back together or not? We were asked last year to let the new players bed in and we were rewarded for it. The same should apply to the new coaches, we're showing glimpses of being a very good team this year, the friendlies against everton and bremen showed it. Give them time.
We are 6! games into the league season, there are 40 remaining, any talk of sacking the manager that has dragged this club kicking and screaming to a position where we can realistically be in the mix for a championship play off place regularly is utter madness.
Im a ST holder, the performances have been awful, this weekend was atrocious but there is not a single part of me that thinks removing Robins make it any better.
I don't know why some people aren't understanding this. It's been made pretty clear without ITKs, the club or local media being able to say it outright for obvious reasons.
Guess some people just prefer the idea that King or Dr Roberts forced him out against Robins will.
This is completely accurate and fairI think you’re doing the classic “reading a hundred people’s views and amalgamating them into one person who doesn’t exist”
No one is asking to sack robins and have Adi back. Only a tiny minority are even asking for robins to be sacked.
Equally, you have to give things time and 6 games, it isn’t enough time to figure out if things need to change.I think literally everyone has said they understand this. The point is you need to replace him, not just promote a couple of U18 coaches and hope for the best.
Give them time absolutely but one of them imo needs to be the Number 2. Need to get some hierarchy involved.Equally, you have to give things time and 6 games, it isn’t enough time to figure out if things need to change.
Looking back to AV’s first season, would anyone have looked at our early performances and felt we’d be playing for Premiership football 5-6 season later. The circumstances are somewhat similar, MR’s long term AM replaced by (ironically) youth coach from Chelsea.
Even the coaches around MR are developing into their new roles.
Hook it to my veins
No it was an argument I think but no fisties¡I seem to remember Lati and someone (Thomas maybe? Can't remember who) having to be pulled apart last season.
I may have imagined this.
I've used the 6 in 36/1 win in 12 (or whatever it is now) in other threads. I know it gets a lot of pushback but I think it is a relevant element of our run of form as it is mostly the same players/many of the issues have carried over and is helpful in understanding where the issues lie..Also while I agree it’s only six games, the concern for me is that we have only gained 6 points in our last 36. That’s a concern.
Give them time absolutely but one of them imo needs to be the Number 2. Need to get some hierarchy involved.
I've used the 6 in 36/1 win in 12 (or whatever it is now) in other threads. I know it gets a lot of pushback but I think it is a relevant element of our run of form as it is mostly the same players/many of the issues have carried over and is helpful in understanding where the issues lie..
There are obviously times when it is not relevant eg. discussing the new set up, assessing the loss of Adi or projecting where we will finish. In a 'Robins out' thread it's not wrong as it shows his current record, it is just swamped by the context of his last 7 years with the club.
Everything feels a bit 'off' with the squad right now but he has a proven track record of turning things around. If we are still struggling in January this is a discussion worth having. But not now.
I seem to remember Lati and someone (Thomas maybe? Can't remember who) having to be pulled apart last season.
I may have imagined this.
Players fighting on the pitch?
Thomas wasn’t it. Might even have been Watford away if I remember rightI seem to remember Lati and someone (Thomas maybe? Can't remember who) having to be pulled apart last season.
I may have imagined this.
I didn’t see this on Saturday as left early as brother had night shift? Did it kick off after the 90th?For the “this happens every season” lot, genuinely when have you seen team morale this low? Players clearly not arsed. Players fighting on the pitch?
come on. Be serious.
For the “this happens every season” lot, genuinely when have you seen team morale this low? Players clearly not arsed. Players fighting on the pitch?
come on. Be serious.
I didn’t vote out but on the recruitment angle.
On 1) I think this would be extremely difficult to get right considering how big a hole Mark would leave at the club considering he’s been probably the best (at least one of) in our history.
But likewise we’ve got 6 points out of 36. If that continues you can’t stick with it and worrying about who else could do the job would only hurt that.
On the question, think I’d keep an open mind. Would be the first time the recruitment staff, performance director and Doug would have to recruit a manager. Big Big job but would rather judge them on the results after the fact.
2) Want to preface this that at the moment Robins deserves time to tweak and work out and if needed to get rid of some of the coaches. If I was in charge I would look at young attacking managers in either the lower bit of the championship or in League one.
Names that come to mind is:
Steven Schumacher
Michael Skubala
Danny Röhl
Dave Challinor
Ian Evatt
Again that’s just the type of manager I would be looking at but want to reconfirm that I think Robins deserves time but needs to prove he can do it without Adi.
Said it before and at the risk of saying it again Adi must have done something damning to not even get the obligatory guff of thank you for your service and we wish you well for the futureI don't know why some people aren't understanding this. It's been made pretty clear without ITKs, the club or local media being able to say it outright for obvious reasons.
Guess some people just prefer the idea that King or Dr Roberts forced him out against Robins will.
What can the club do really though? It has to come from him IMO. Sad that that's the case though, paints things in a different light.I'm sure Turner or the club will report on it soon, but the club really should have been protecting Robins recently due to personal life (think fadz last season)
Instead he's still been thrust in front of cameras and taking the blame for recent showings
This is why he's looked so tired and down recently. He should have been protected by the club in my eyes
Norwich away 2 seasons ago.For the “this happens every season” lot, genuinely when have you seen team morale this low? Players clearly not arsed. Players fighting on the pitch?
come on. Be serious.
Is it?Numerous threads discussing Robins’ future. It’s ridiculous that it’s even a debate.
Is it?
1 win in our last 12 league games. I don’t want him gone but it’s a natural debate to be having.
Bring back Adi VMR hasn’t changed, what’s around him has. So either you find someone able to succeed in the new environment or you change things back more to what he works better with.
That's the equivalent of losing 17 games in a 46 game season which is never going to get you into the top 6Only lost 19 of our last 52
Bizarre amount of “I don’t want Robins gone but we should debate it”. If you don’t want him gone what’s the debate?
I’d take mid table at this rateThat's the equivalent of losing 17 games in a 46 game season which is never going to get you into the top 6
What’s happened with Robins?I'm sure Turner or the club will report on it soon, but the club really should have been protecting Robins recently due to personal life (think fadz last season)
Instead he's still been thrust in front of cameras and taking the blame for recent showings
This is why he's looked so tired and down recently. He should have been protected by the club in my eyes
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