Todd Kane/Michael Rose/Gyok (3 Viewers)

Saddlebrains · Nov 2, 2021

Just made this point on Twitter but interested to see what you lot think

Todd Kane - Play him

The blokes got 2 assists in a handful of games, has a great delivery on him and tackles well.

Dabo hasn't cleared his closest marker with a cross since St Andrews.

I love the bloke, but really feel Kane should be given a chance

Michael Rose is the best centre half at the club in my view. We always look more solid with him in the side, what the fucks he have to do to get a start?

And lastly, 6 without a goal now for Gyok. Any other striker is dropped for that. He looks either fucked, or lacking in confidence. Id drop him for a game

SeaSeeEffCee · Nov 2, 2021

Gyokeres was good today, but he’s clearly not fully fit and hasn’t been since Blackburn.

PVA · Nov 2, 2021

Not convinced on Kane yet, but I don't know how Rose isn't in the side ahead of JCS. Particularly after his two goal saving interventions v Blackburn.

If he doesn't play on Saturday he may as well just hand in a transfer request!

Jamieb87ccfc · Nov 2, 2021

I agree Clarke-Salter needs to be dropped too inconsistent. Allen for me is a bit of a headless chicken.

Deleted member 9744 · Nov 2, 2021

Saddlebrains said:
Just made this point on Twitter but interested to see what you lot think

Todd Kane - Play him

The blokes got 2 assists in a handful of games, has a great delivery on him and tackles well.

Dabo hasn't cleared his closest marker with a cross since St Andrews.

I love the bloke, but really feel Kane should be given a chance

Michael Rose is the best centre half at the club in my view. We always look more solid with him in the side, what the fucks he have to do to get a start?

And lastly, 6 without a goal now for Gyok. Any other striker is dropped for that. He looks either fucked, or lacking in confidence. Id drop him for a game

Don't agree on Kane but do agree Rose is our best defender and should replace JCS.

rexo87 · Nov 2, 2021

Kane - 100% bring him in on Saturday. Dabo was both knackered and poor today.

Rose - difficult one. Hyam has been good but I think Rose is a better player. Don’t want Rose or Hyam playing the left of the three.

Vik - he was really good today. We underused his power with the ball in the channels. One poor moment when he looked like he was in 2 minds

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Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Nov 2, 2021

Saddlebrains said:
Just made this point on Twitter but interested to see what you lot think

Todd Kane - Play him

The blokes got 2 assists in a handful of games, has a great delivery on him and tackles well.

Dabo hasn't cleared his closest marker with a cross since St Andrews.

I love the bloke, but really feel Kane should be given a chance

Michael Rose is the best centre half at the club in my view. We always look more solid with him in the side, what the fucks he have to do to get a start?

And lastly, 6 without a goal now for Gyok. Any other striker is dropped for that. He looks either fucked, or lacking in confidence. Id drop him for a game

Gyo doesn't look the same without Waghorn, but I agree I think he should have been rested to fully recover from the ankle knock. He wasn't fit that game and it's now dragging out. If Waghorn is fit then give him a start.

cc84cov · Nov 2, 2021

Dropping Gyo will do more harm than good I would of rested him after his knock,we didn’t create much for him tonight,I think he’s a different player with Waghorn next to him

hasn’t scored in 6 was that when Waghorn went out the team ?

SAJ · Nov 2, 2021

Saddlebrains said:
Just made this point on Twitter but interested to see what you lot think

Todd Kane - Play him

The blokes got 2 assists in a handful of games, has a great delivery on him and tackles well.

Dabo hasn't cleared his closest marker with a cross since St Andrews.

I love the bloke, but really feel Kane should be given a chance

Michael Rose is the best centre half at the club in my view. We always look more solid with him in the side, what the fucks he have to do to get a start?

And lastly, 6 without a goal now for Gyok. Any other striker is dropped for that. He looks either fucked, or lacking in confidence. Id drop him for a game

Funnily enough I saw him score 2 goals against Fulham and we’ve only played 5 matches since then.

wingy · Nov 2, 2021

Waghorn has popped his shoulder so doubt he'll be returning instantly ,but you never know.

covcity4life · Nov 2, 2021

I don't know why o hare not finishing is ok cos he be prem player if he did

But dabo being a class act and having a shit cross is not the same thing and he should be dropped

Things that make you go hmmmmmm

wingy · Nov 2, 2021

covcity4life said:
I don't know why o hare not finishing is ok cos he be prem player if he did

But dabo being a class act and having a shit cross is not the same thing and he should be dropped

Things that make you go hmmmmmm

Well I think that's why Kane was brought in tbf not to just sit and watch and Cover but to challenge the position .
How long has Fankaty got left on his deal?

rob9872 · Nov 2, 2021

I liked Kane playing when we switched Fanky to LB and Maatsen can look a but naive defensively although offers so much going forward. I also like Rose, but his competition is Hyam who didn't do anything wrong tonight ir Saturday, arguably could've been dropped after the Preston game though. Gyo I think worked the channels better tonight and didn't really miss any chances just get any. I thought he was better tonight but clearly works best with Waghorn. Different players for different games, but not sure I can agree with any of those changes.

Saddlebrains said:
Just made this point on Twitter but interested to see what you lot think

Todd Kane - Play him

The blokes got 2 assists in a handful of games, has a great delivery on him and tackles well.

Dabo hasn't cleared his closest marker with a cross since St Andrews.

I love the bloke, but really feel Kane should be given a chance

Michael Rose is the best centre half at the club in my view. We always look more solid with him in the side, what the fucks he have to do to get a start?

And lastly, 6 without a goal now for Gyok. Any other striker is dropped for that. He looks either fucked, or lacking in confidence. Id drop him for a game

SlowerThanPlatt · Nov 2, 2021

rob9872 said:
I liked Kane playing when we switched Fanky to LB and Maatsen can look a but naive defensively although offers so much going forward. I also like Rose, but his competition is Hyam who didn't do anything wrong tonight ir Saturday, arguably could've been dropped after the Preston game though. Gyo I think worked the channels better tonight and didn't really miss any chances just get any. I thought he was better tonight but clearly works best with Waghorn. Different players for different games, but not sure I can agree with any of those changes.

His competition is Clarke Salter isn’t it? Hyam and McFadzean won’t be dropped

Londonccfcfan · Nov 2, 2021

Saddlebrains said:
Just made this point on Twitter but interested to see what you lot think

Todd Kane - Play him

The blokes got 2 assists in a handful of games, has a great delivery on him and tackles well.

Dabo hasn't cleared his closest marker with a cross since St Andrews.

I love the bloke, but really feel Kane should be given a chance

Michael Rose is the best centre half at the club in my view. We always look more solid with him in the side, what the fucks he have to do to get a start?

And lastly, 6 without a goal now for Gyok. Any other striker is dropped for that. He looks either fucked, or lacking in confidence. Id drop him for a game

Jesus
Kane isnt 5% the player Dabo is. Just because he can cross better doesnt make him a better player!

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Nov 2, 2021

The defence just isn't very good I'm afraid. We could keep shuffling things around but it'll just be a band aid solution really.

Nick · Nov 2, 2021

Londonccfcfan said:
Jesus
Kane isnt 5% the player Dabo is. Just because he can cross better doesnt make him a better player!

Really?

SeaSeeEffCee · Nov 2, 2021

Londonccfcfan said:
Jesus
Kane isnt 5% the player Dabo is. Just because he can cross better doesnt make him a better player!

Dabo has been dire since Fulham.

cc84cov · Nov 2, 2021

SeaSeeEffCee said:
Dabo has been dire since Fulham.

He was ok tonight just doesn’t have the final ball currently

CV22SBA · Nov 3, 2021

Londonccfcfan said:
Jesus
Kane isnt 5% the player Dabo is. Just because he can cross better doesnt make him a better player!

Don’t agree. Dabo has no end product. It might be exciting to see him take players on but it means nothing when he can’t create any chances. Kane is the better player and creates goals.

Liquid Gold · Nov 3, 2021

I love Dabo more than any grown man should but I’d be very tempted to put Kane in because the end product difference between them is very noticeable.

Give Dabs Bristol and tell him you want to see a better ball in the box when he can. If not then it’s Kane in for a few after the break.

CDK · Nov 3, 2021

SlowerThanPlatt said:
His competition is Clarke Salter isn’t it? Hyam and McFadzean won’t be dropped

Franky at left back Todd in at right rose needs to play as a quality CB would play sheaf for Allen as missed v swans gyo alongside walker or box midfield less walker.

rob9872 · Nov 3, 2021

SlowerThanPlatt said:
His competition is Clarke Salter isn’t it? Hyam and McFadzean won’t be dropped

I don't think so. He played right side of the three last season and it was Hyam who filled in (inadequately I'd say) in the left side of three. JCS is the only naturally left footer among the 4 of them and offers more balance.

shmmeee · Nov 3, 2021

covcity4life said:
I don't know why o hare not finishing is ok cos he be prem player if he did

But dabo being a class act and having a shit cross is not the same thing and he should be dropped

Things that make you go hmmmmmm

We don’t have an AM with ten times the career goals sat on the bench. We do have a RWB with ten times the assists.

Grendel · Nov 3, 2021

Londonccfcfan said:
Jesus
Kane isnt 5% the player Dabo is. Just because he can cross better doesnt make him a better player!

Kane has made around 180 appearances at this level across several teams.

Nick · Nov 3, 2021

Think the issue with Kane and Dabo is that Dabo is a favourite.

Yeah it looks good when he beats a player down the right but after that it usually comes to nothing. The most we can usually expect is a corner from them.

People disliked Kane before he even signed for us. Slated him when he was shoved at LWB but then didn't mention when he swapped with Dabo he was a massive improvement and got an assist with a great ball.

cc84cov · Nov 3, 2021

Nick said:
Think the issue with Kane and Dabo is that Dabo is a favourite.

Yeah it looks good when he beats a player down the right but after that it usually comes to nothing. The most we can usually expect is a corner from them.

People disliked Kane before he even signed for us. Slated him when he was shoved at LWB but then didn't mention when he swapped with Dabo he was a massive improvement and got an assist with a great ball.

I thought second half last night dabo might go left to with kane coming on

shmmeee · Nov 3, 2021

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
The defence just isn't very good I'm afraid. We could keep shuffling things around but it'll just be a band aid solution really.

Major surgery required in the summer. Two CBs and a LWB needed minimum. Though we said the same last summer.

Nick · Nov 3, 2021

cc84cov said:
I thought second half last night dabo might go left to with kane coming on

Why? Maatsen puts a much better ball into the box from the left than Dabo does on the right, Dabo would be even worse on the left.

cc84cov · Nov 3, 2021

Nick said:
Why? Maatsen puts a much better ball into the box from the left than Dabo does on the right, Dabo would be even worse on the left.

Their winger first half was giving our left a torrid time and Dabo seems to have no final ball at the moment,Give Kane that many chances to put a ball in I wonder if we score

Nick · Nov 3, 2021

cc84cov said:
Their winger first half was giving our left a torrid time and Dabo seems to have no final ball at the moment,Give Kane that many chances to put a ball in I wonder if we score

Yeah in the first half but again that wasn't helped by the Midfield.

Second half we were much better on our left.

PVA · Nov 3, 2021

rob9872 said:
I don't think so. He played right side of the three last season and it was Hyam who filled in (inadequately I'd say) in the left side of three. JCS is the only naturally left footer among the 4 of them and offers more balance.

Rose is definitely competing for the LCB spot.

He used to play RCB and Hyam LCB but that's been swapped around. Each time Rose has played this season it's been on the left.

JCS being left footed is being way overblown. His first job is to defend and you play your best three defenders, regardless of what foot they use.

Kick the ball at JCS and he'll head it and kick it away brilliantly all day long. But his positioning, closing down and general game awareness is shocking. There's a reason he couldn't get a game at Blues last season.

I'll get accused of sounding like a broken record on JCS soon but I just don't think he's that good and it's starting to become apparent to others too.

shmmeee · Nov 3, 2021

Can’t play Rose on the left. It completely nullifies both him and Maatsen. I’d have him in ahead of Hyam maybe.

Just think we’re seeing the impact of not bolstering the defence over the summer.

PVA · Nov 3, 2021

shmmeee said:
Can’t play Rose on the left. It completely nullifies both him and Maatsen. I’d have him in ahead of Hyam maybe.

How does it?

I think Rose is probably the best passer amongst the CBs, and Robins has said along the same lines (think it may have been last season he said it).

Again the whole left footed thing gets way over played and this is not specific to the Rose v JCS debate - would you rather England played Tyrone Mings than Harry Maguire at LCB in the Euros just because he's left footed? No, you play Maguire because he's the better defender (though has been absolute shite for Utd recently!)

TomRad85 · Nov 3, 2021

If Kane doesn't get a chance soon it can't be long before he puts out a sequel to his QPR rant.

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