Tommy Robinson (4 Viewers)

[Houchens Head]

They're a product / victim of their environment and when doctrines like original sin are drummed into you day in, day out, your perception of the world changes.

I grew up thinking Latin was my native bleedin' tongue! I had to learn all services responses in Latin. i.e. Mass, Rosary, Benediction, Funerals etc. And this was from the age of 5!

 

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[Westendlad]

A 5 Live reporter went around the streets of Bethnall Green, ascertaining the feelings of the local residents on the matter.

All the local, traditionally British folk were dead set against having this girl back.

The reporter then went and sought the view from local Muslims and there was a bit more sympathy .........until the reporter mentioned about the girl showing no remorse. At that point 100% of them were then against having her back also.

Yeah i listened to that and was refreshing to hear.....Mind you i did choke on my Cappuccino when One Muslim chap said 'Us Muslims don't kill each other'......

 

[bringbackrattles]

Thanks SBPete. I wasn't looking for sympathy but just wanted to let folk know just how I feel about religion in general. I sometimes feel cheated because many people have a religion to turn to when they need it. I don't, simply because I have no belief at all, but I wish I did, if you can understand what I mean.
I wrote my autobiography back in 2004 and had it published online. I believe BringBackRattles has read it. Not trying to build up sales (I only get 30p royalties!), but if anyone's interested in how kids in care coped like me in the 1950's and 60's, then the link to my book is:
www.lulu.com/shop/barry-adams/pater-noster/paperback/product-23827413.html
I think Coventry libraries have it as well, but a much smaller font size. I re-edited it recently and enlarged font size, so much easier on the eye.

Yes I read it Houch. The print was small though,so will try and get the new version. It was harrowing in places,but humour in there too.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Thanks SBPete. I wasn't looking for sympathy but just wanted to let folk know just how I feel about religion in general. I sometimes feel cheated because many people have a religion to turn to when they need it. I don't, simply because I have no belief at all, but I wish I did, if you can understand what I mean.
I wrote my autobiography back in 2004 and had it published online. I believe BringBackRattles has read it. Not trying to build up sales (I only get 30p royalties!), but if anyone's interested in how kids in care coped like me in the 1950's and 60's, then the link to my book is:
www.lulu.com/shop/barry-adams/pater-noster/paperback/product-23827413.html
I think Coventry libraries have it as well, but a much smaller font size. I re-edited it recently and enlarged font size, so much easier on the eye.

I’ll give it a go.

 

[bringbackrattles]

I’ll give it a go.

I had to order it from the Central library.

 

[mark82]

Tbf it's a charity that supports rape victims of all races, they had a specific poster because women from certain communities are even less inclined to report rapes or seek support.
The massive irony is that Tommy is inadvertently going against a charity that will support victims of the same type of people as the grooming gangs.

The bloke is a hypocritical knobhead even if he makes some fair points on grooming gangs etc

This is the thing, no-one is defending grooming gangs. No-one is saying it's not a bigger problem in the Muslim community than others, and needs addressing. But to spout that all Muslims are paedo's/rapists is ridiculous. To say Islam is a religion of hate is stupid. You can't tar everyone with the same brush.

A guy in Germany, whose name escapes me, had an issue in a similar fashion with a particular religion (might have been Jews). Wonder if those who think Robinson/Yaxley-Lennon is a hero would have the same opinion of him. Do you think, given the choice, he'd support exterminating all Muslims?

 

[mark82]

By the way, despite all our differences regarding our football club at times, it's great to see that most people on here are united in hatred (or at least disapproval) of this abhorrent fascist.

(Note: I haven't read the whole thread, just the last few pages. Hoping there aren't more than the odd one further back).

 

[Westendlad]

This is the thing, no-one is defending grooming gangs. No-one is saying it's not a bigger problem in the Muslim community than others, and needs addressing. But to spout that all Muslims are paedo's/rapists is ridiculous. To say Islam is a religion of hate is stupid. You can't tar everyone with the same brush.

A guy in Germany, whose name escapes me, had an issue in a similar fashion with a particular religion (might have been Jews). Wonder if those who think Robinson/Yaxley-Lennon is a hero would have the same opinion of him. Do you think, given the choice, he'd support exterminating all Muslims?

In all my life i've never heard of grooming gangs till the last couple of years.....You need to take your head out your ass Mark.

 

[Nick]

Tommy Robinson reminds me of those people who bang on and on about gays and end up coming out as gay at the end of it. Isn't he mates with a couple of them as well?

 

[Westendlad]

One last one before i retire to my 4 poster is that the more most people on here and the rest of the snowflakes in the Uk brush this under the carpet the longer it will carry on. Its not racist its a sick problem within the muslim male population that needs to be stopped. God knows how many girls are suffering in this country as i write this. Makes me sick and anyone who is in denial should be ashamed of themselves. Goodnight.

 

[Westendlad]

Tommy Robinson reminds me of those people who bang on and on about gays and end up coming out as gay at the end of it. Isn't he mates with a couple of them as well?

Oh shut the fuck up.....Twat.

 

[Nick]

One last one before i retire to my 4 poster is that the more most people on here and the rest of the snowflakes in the Uk brush this under the carpet the longer it will carry on. Its not racist its a sick problem within the muslim male population that needs to be stopped. God knows how many girls are suffering in this country as i write this. Makes me sick and anyone who is in denial should be ashamed of themselves. Goodnight.

Nobody is brushing anything under the carpet or denying anything.

 

[Nick]

Oh shut the fuck up.....Twat.

So he doesn't know them then?

Strange, I don't know any convicted nonces. A pretty strange thing for somebody so against sex offenders.

 

[Westendlad]

So your saying he shouldn't be friends with gays ?

 

[Westendlad]

Problem with you Nick is that in your cosy out of town abode you see/know nothing about what is going on in 'real life'......Like a few on here.

 

[PurpleBin]

Brown People.

Gay People.

 

[clint van damme]

One last one before i retire to my 4 poster is that the more most people on here and the rest of the snowflakes in the Uk brush this under the carpet the longer it will carry on. Its not racist its a sick problem within the muslim male population that needs to be stopped. God knows how many girls are suffering in this country as i write this. Makes me sick and anyone who is in denial should be ashamed of themselves. Goodnight.

No one is denying there are issues.
What we're saying is a coke head convict who turns a blind eye to white sex offemders including some close associates, has a string of convictions as long as your arm and who nearly fucked up a grooming gang trial isn't the best spokesperson to voice that concern on behalf of the public.

 

[mark82]

In all my life i've never heard of grooming gangs till the last couple of years.....You need to take your head out your ass Mark.

Clearly didn't read what I'd said. I said it's a problem (the facts available don't actually prove it's a disproportionate problem in the Muslim community, only the Asian community but I'm not saying it isn't the Muslim community). There's also been problems in the past in Christian communities, no-one is saying they should be kicked out the country. It's certainly not the majority of Muslims that are involved, so to say they are is ridiculous.

Also worth noting that Yaxley-Lennon defended a friend of his who had child pornography found on his computer. Seems his moral compass is all over the place to me.

 

[mark82]

One last one before i retire to my 4 poster is that the more most people on here and the rest of the snowflakes in the Uk brush this under the carpet the longer it will carry on. Its not racist its a sick problem within the muslim male population that needs to be stopped. God knows how many girls are suffering in this country as i write this. Makes me sick and anyone who is in denial should be ashamed of themselves. Goodnight.

Someone disagrees with me so he's a snowflake. Grow up you absolute fucking melt.

 

[mark82]

Problem with you Nick is that in your cosy out of town abode you see/know nothing about what is going on in 'real life'......Like a few on here.

Probably about as much as you know about what goes on in the Muslim community.

 

[Nick]

So your saying he shouldn't be friends with gays ?

No, nonces. Considering he hates them so much.

 

[Nick]

Problem with you Nick is that in your cosy out of town abode you see/know nothing about what is going on in 'real life'......Like a few on here.

I probably know a lot more than you could imagine

 

[shmmeee]

In all my life i've never heard of grooming gangs till the last couple of years.....You need to take your head out your ass Mark.

Yeah you have. You just called them pedo rings or something instead. “Grooming gang” isn’t even a defined crime, that’s why that Asian LBC guys report was dodgy because you have to decide what to count. Are two men a gang? What if they rape a 16 yo is that grooming?

I was teaching ten years ago in Woodend and knew of girls that had “older boyfriends” (both white) that took them out for drinks and the like. Hell I remember girls like that when I was at school in the 90s.

Yes there’s a problem with some Pakistani Muslim culture. Yes the left gets far too defensive over anyone pointing this out.

Tommy Robinson however just makes it worse. First he entrenched opposition by being so extreme. Second he actively does stuff that almost leads to cases getting thrown out and the perpetrators going free. Thirdly, he does all this for personal profit. That’s why he’s running social media accounts and not charities for victims.

 

[Houchens Head]

I had to order it from the Central library.

So that's why I didn't receive any royalties! LOL!

 

[mark82]

So that's why I didn't receive any royalties! LOL!

You've been waiting for that 30p for years!

Might check out your book if I ever find a 5 minute gap in my life at the moment! My wife quite likes that kind of thing too.

 

[dutchman]

By the way, despite all our differences regarding our football club at times, it's great to see that most people on here are united in hatred (or at least disapproval) of this abhorrent fascist.

I would much rather they were united in their hatred of paedophile/grooming gangs, regardless of their ethnic origin.

 

[Astute]

In all my life i've never heard of grooming gangs till the last couple of years.....You need to take your head out your ass Mark.

I think you should look more into it then. It has been going on for a very long time.

The internet has made everything more noticeable. Do you think these sex attacks by rich/celebrities has just started to happen?

It used to be worse than it is now. But now we get to hear about it.

 

[shmmeee]

I would much rather they were united in their hatred of paedophile/grooming gangs, regardless of their ethnic origin.

Do you really think they’re not?

 

[mark82]

I would much rather they were united in their hatred of paedophile/grooming gangs, regardless of their ethnic origin.

Absolutely, but it's not actually about that, it's about their religion.

 

[mark82]

Do you really think they’re not?

Exactly, the crime is disgusting, the religion or race of the perpetrators is irrelevant.

 

[singers_pore]

Exactly, the crime is disgusting, the religion or race of the perpetrators is irrelevant.

Except that some Islamic scholars believe that rape and slavery of non-Muslims is fine, a teaching that can also be found in the Quran and Hadith

 

[Adge]

Except that some Islamic scholars believe that rape and slavery of non-Muslims is fine, a teaching that can also be found in the Quran and Hadith

Can it? Not sure in this day and age that they could get away with that teaching. Can you find a link/quote where it says that? (And by the way I’m not Muslim or religious!)

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

You should read the order of orange men book and what it says about other Christians

 

[Captain Dart]

Can it? Not sure in this day and age that they could get away with that teaching. Can you find a link/quote where it says that? (And by the way I’m not Muslim or religious!)

Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Slavery - WikiIslam

 

[covcity4life]

Exactly, the crime is disgusting, the religion or race of the perpetrators is irrelevant.

Agree think most on here are NORMAL ebough to hate all peados and rapists

Must say as a british Sikh i am happy most are good guys on here but if i was muslim i wonder how i would feel reading this dumb shit from dumb pricks. Wonder if it would make me hate fellow cov fans eventually aa i didnt feel united as fans. Not sure.

Still just gotta remember it's fear and stupidity.

As i always say just be good people!

And covcity4life is always right.....