skyblue_55
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It’s amazing though , as the weeks have gone by & people stop me ( I wear skyblue tops etc ) complete strangers & start a conversation about what a great final & how we were robbed !
As I've said a few times, I agree about 'clear and obvious', and they should give more leeway to the attacker. But we are talking about whether they applied the existing rules correctly, and they did. The timing of Haji sticking his left foot out was desperately unlucky.
You're absolutely right, it's based on the turf stripes. But Alf Higgins would have needed numerous pints for his lines to be that far out!
You're citing Man Utd getting a decision against Liverpool as an example of bias towards the big teams?Even if you're lines are correct, how does the decision to disallow fall in line with the Rashford 'marginal' goal mentioned earlier in the thread? While I don't believe there is overt corruption in the process, there is a definite unconscious bias displayed towards the big teams in marginal VAR decisions,
It was over the moment Hojlund slotted his pen. Why people have tortured themselves over it ever since, I don’t know.
I moved on from it pretty quickly, as I do with most adverse results.
Though it was only after beating Wolves that I made peace with the 1997 QF loss so for some people it might take a long time.
The 3rd penalty is always key and I’m convinced we’d have won if Coach had scored.Main thing for me is that Torps goal was ruined by VAR whether it counted or not. As soon as I saw that Haji was potentially offside I was worried about it, and didn't celebrate like I normally would a 120+ min winner in a cup semi.
I'm confident a majority of actual match going fans in this country would rather get rid of VAR than keep it. The minutes of waiting just kill the joy of goal celebrations.
People also seem to have blanked out the fact we were gifted a 1-0 lead in the shootout thanks to Casemiro and still bottled it.
You're citing Man Utd getting a decision against Liverpool as an example of bias towards the big teams?
I’m rather worried that this might be like 1977 Sunderland for some of our fans. Clinging onto it for years.
He took two excellent penalties under huge pressure. The sign of a quality playerThink a lot are blinded by the frustration that we’ve gone through all that pandemonium, achieving the inconceivable, for it to be in vain. I had no voice for 8 days.
Yeah it was close, if the flag goes up immediately we don't go through it all, and this thread doesn’t exist. Wright being offside was the story of his season really wasn’t it.
I’m rather worried that this might be like 1977 Sunderland for some of our fans. Clinging onto it for years.
He took two excellent penalties under huge pressure. The sign of a quality player
1998 but completely agree. Went to every game in that cup run bar the replay.I moved on from it pretty quickly, as I do with most adverse results.
Though it was only after beating Wolves that I made peace with the 1997 QF loss so for some people it might take a long time.
1998 but completely agree. Went to every game in that cup run bar the replay.
I know we've had some sliding doors moments on the way up, but that was the one for me on the way down.
So v Wolves, I made sure I milked the emotions in the Stan Cullis stand and afterwards for all they were worth!
Probably true. I also think had we gone down to League 1 at the end of SISU's first season instead of Leicester, I think things would have gone a bit better.You're right, I stand corrected.
1997 was another sliding doors moment, staying up at Spurs on the last day, as a great a day as it was, I think some of the shit of the last 20 years might have been avoided if we'd gone down that day.
that's actually my biggest issue with var. it impacts on how much you celebrate a goal. considering how important those moments are to a game, for that reason alone i would bin it.Main thing for me is that Torps goal was ruined by VAR whether it counted or not. As soon as I saw that Haji was potentially offside I was worried about it, and didn't celebrate like I normally would a 120+ min winner in a cup semi.
I'm confident a majority of actual match going fans in this country would rather get rid of VAR than keep it. The minutes of waiting just kill the joy of goal celebrations.
People also seem to have blanked out the fact we were gifted a 1-0 lead in the shootout thanks to Casemiro and still bottled it.
We couldn't defend like that
They do, Europa league. As a result Chelsea are in the conference cup and Newcastle miss out all together
OK, the pics are numbered in order. Each set of parallel lines go to a common point, which is the effect of perspective. Unfortunately under the current (over-fussy) rules it's pretty clear to me, so I don't feel aggrieved. It was bad timing and very bad luck.
Draw some different lines (= alternative facts) if you want, to make him onside at the crucial moment.
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If the Glaziers had bought us, they'd have had that window fixed at Ryton on Day 1.So it's Glaziers/Ten Hag in now right?
But if the lines are just 'indicative' whats the fucking point in showing them? May as well just be like the courts and have an artists impression. How hard is it to connect a cable to the VAR feed? Just yet another reason why VAR implementation has been absurdly shit in football.I agree that's strange, and that's actually why I bothered to do my own lines using the mobile pictures from the opposite angle. People can dispute them if they want, but it seems crystal clear to me. There's a website called 'football offsides' which looks at decisions, again drawing perspective lines, and they quickly confirmed the Haji decision was correct (they don't always).
The lines they show on TV are just indicative, and in this case they have caused a lot of unnecessary confusion IMO.
My cousin says he won't even bother, because he lives in Leicester and if he tries operating the remote control, he'll be all fingers and thumbs.Just bought a 75 inch tv to watch Premier league football next season. Opened the box and there are no Leeds!!
We are in the realms of fantasy here. Surely you've seen the way they take vertical lines to shoulders where appropriate?The lines are shit; the line *drawing* has been shit. It needs an electronically-drawn VERTICAL PLANE. Wan-Bissaka's shoulders were further forward than Haji's foot. There is nothing in the Laws to say it is based on the foot - it is the forward-most point.
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