chiefdave
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What is generally stated, at least by Fisher and the independent 'experts' CWR and CT drag out, is that we can have a competitive budget in L1 but not at a higher level.
I thought If we do a long term rent deal like we have now with Wasps
We are destined to stay in league 1.
However we also have one of the best budgets in league one under such a rent deal?
One or the other surely?
Now this is really getting confusing
I thought If we do a long term rent deal like we have now with Wasps
We are destined to stay in league 1.
However we also have one of the best budgets in league one under such a rent deal?
One or the other surely?
As stated it's also possible that 3rd highest is marginally less.
Still if you think Rochdale, Walsall and Bury have better budgets than us you are clearly of a delusional nature.
haven't most said above league one would be when the issues start?
You're the delusional one. I've never said that I think that Rochdale, Walsall or Bury have better budgets or anything remotely close to indicate I think that.
So how about Oldham, Crewe, Southend, fleetwood, Chesterfield, port vale, burton, Shrewsbury, Blackpool then?
No, I was talking in general.Most? Oh you mean TF. We all know he only tells the truth to suit an argument. On this occasion it's to suit your argument
No, I was talking in general.
Don't think I said he didn't, was just saying most said that statement about the championship not league oneChris Anderson doesn't apparently.
Don't think I said he didn't
Couldn't tell you as I don't know what their budgets are. Do you?
Wigan, Sheffield United?
Do you think I have a list of all league one teams budget or something?
So in your opinion we could have a bigger budget than Wigan and Sheffield United?
So how about Oldham, Crewe, Southend, fleetwood, Chesterfield, port vale, burton, Shrewsbury, Blackpool then?
Why do you continually try to put words in people's mouths. Do you think it makes you look clever?
Sorry? You are speculating that sisu were possibly over playing their assessment of our budget weren't you?
So in your opinion we could have a bigger budget than Wigan?
I would bet my house we haven't. You however are not sure.
That's ok but seems to contradict some opinions offered on this thread in my opinion.
Sorry? You are speculating that sisu were possibly over playing their assessment of our budget weren't you?
So in your opinion we could have a bigger budget than Wigan?
I would bet my house we haven't. You however are not sure.
That's ok but seems to contradict some opinions offered on this thread in my opinion.
Underplaying it by the sounds of it to be fair.
They are pretty much saying its 7th in terms of the playing side of things.
Some experts in here know that it is actually in the top six.
So it sounds like in order to protect Mowbray SISU have been pretending it is 7th.
Which is quite honourable really as you would think they would want to point out that the budget they are giving a manager is actually in the top 4 for example because what more cZn they really do as owners.
I am going with you lot Waghot must be wrong
You're doing it again. Putting words in people's mouths to try and make yourself look clever. Have you actually read anything I've said on this and paid attention to it?
To be fair wasn't SW quoted as saying we have a top 6-8 budget? That would obviously be an estimate but given the history of estimates from the people running our club I don't think it's unreasonable to expect the actual figure be at the bottom end of that estimate. Or even lower. Not exactly known for getting figures right are they? This seasons required attendances for one. They aren't known for their accuracy are they? And it's only ever in the wrong direction.
What you've said is speculative but based on zero foundation.
What I want is some assumptions based on foundation and factual consideration.
You will not commit as you know ultimately you will be drawn into a conclusion you hate to admit.
That we have a wage bill (not budget) within the top 6 in the league.
Only a moron would think otherwise,
True comedy gold.
I think it's top eighth to sixth......
How can anyone automatically believe what SISU say about the budget or anything else for that matter, after all the nonsense that SISU came out with over the new stadium? It's truly amazing how gullible some of our fans are.
SISU can't even estimate the break-even crowd figure properly (11,000/14,000). So why do people think that SISU can figure out where we are in terms of our budget relative to other teams in L1?
SISU don't run the club day to day, they would have asked waggott to come up with a break even budget, and that would have been profiled by Brookstein the financial director and waggott and present to SISU. That would have been their fault not SISU's.How can anyone automatically believe what SISU say about the budget or anything else for that matter, after all the nonsense that SISU came out with over the new stadium? It's truly amazing how gullible some of our fans are.
SISU can't even estimate the break-even crowd figure properly (11,000/14,000). So why do people think that SISU can figure out where we are in terms of our budget relative to other teams in L1?
I don't know whether it's top 6 or not just like Tony and Down don't know it's 8th, but I look at some of the players we've got in or squad who won't be on peanuts, and that tells me we had a compressive budget. The last 26 games failure is down to mowbray not the budget.
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SISU don't run the club day to day, they would have asked waggott to come up with a break even budget, and that would have been profiled by Brookstein the financial director and waggott and present to SISU. That would have been their fault not SISU's.
I don't know whether it's top 6 or not just like Tony and Down don't know it's 8th, but I look at some of the players we've got in or squad who won't be on peanuts, and that tells me we had a compressive budget. The last 26 games failure is down to mowbray not the budget.
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We did have a competitive squad, there was no mention of the budget when pretty much the same squad was winning.
SISU don't run the club day to day, they would have asked waggott to come up with a break even budget, and that would have been profiled by Brookstein the financial director and waggott and present to SISU. That would have been their fault not SISU's.
I don't know whether it's top 6 or not just like Tony and Down don't know it's 8th, but I look at some of the players we've got in or squad who won't be on peanuts, and that tells me we had a compressive budget. The last 26 games failure is down to mowbray not the budget.
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I think people were a bit shocked we were top of the league to be fair
I don't think anyone expected that.
We were shocked, but then we also didnt complain about the budget when this happened.
Talk of the budget didn't come up until posters started taking a snapshot of part of the season rather than a season as a whole and start calling for the managers head. Funny that the same posters weren't calling for him to be given a five year contract during a more favourable snapshot of the season. It was almost like they were waiting for him to fall on his sword so they could enjoy calling for him to go. Which is of course all too easy and ignoring the bigger picture. Budgets then came up as part of this bigger picture.
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