AFCCOVENTRY
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Lol… Burnley doing Burnley things… they’ve bud £7m for Jack Clarke. Sunderland fans fuming… haha
What would he be worth? Significantly less than Gyökeres I'd assume but still relatively young. £10m?Lol… Burnley doing Burnley things… they’ve bud £7m for Jack Clarke. Sunderland fans fuming… haha
So very little money being available from player sales for Robins would be acceptable?With respect you are talking bollox, he needs to make sure our club is run properly from top to bottom, he’s started by putting the most important MR & AV on proper extended contracts, I’m sure he will back them.
I think the season ticket sales will back him up too, we have sold 9000 already.
I’m sorry it has to be 50% of player salesSo very little money being available from player sales for Robins would be acceptable?
Depends if it spent on infrastructure like the training facilities which are clearly way behind the timesSo very little money being available from player sales for Robins would be acceptable?
The team is the most importantDepends if it spent on infrastructure like the training facilities which are clearly way behind the times
It isn't. The club is. Better facilities attract better players not just throwing money around players who are here for a short amount of timeThe team is the most important
Not much point having championship quality infrastructure, but don't spend money on championship quality players. Or at least potential championship quality.Depends if it spent on infrastructure like the training facilities which are clearly way behind the times
DisagreeIt isn't. The club is. Better facilities attract better players not just throwing money around players who are here for a short amount of time
Get the infrastructure right and it becomes easier to ride out temporary blips in playing form - a bad dressing for us ATM could be be disastrous, but if the foundations are right it can be corrected more easily.Not much point having championship quality infrastructure, but don't spend money on championship quality players. Or at least potential championship quality.
Id bring in two and a loan ideally. And I’d fuck Tavares off on loan.
GK/Wilson/Tyler
RWB/RWB/Burroughs
LWB/Dasilva
CB/CB/CB/CB/Fadz
CM/Hamer/Howley
Sheaf/Eccles/Kelly
AM/Palmer/O’Hare/Allen
ST/ST/ST/Godden/Tavares
13 signings, Moore and Bidwell out, solid base of 22/23 Championship players and the likes of Tavares, Howley and Burroughs at the fringes.
Not saying really we don't. I'm saying the more signings we look to make the chances of it going wrong increases which is why I've long been concerned about this window.
With more signings needed to be brought in the likelihood that they're not the club's primary targets increases, meaning the uncertainty around the signing subsequently increases as often consolidations have to be made. As it's pretty common for clubs of our stature not to get their first, second or even third choice targets in any given transfer window.
Which is generally as a rule of thumb why I think signing a huge number of players in one given window rarely comes off as there's only a finite amount of time a resource for managers and backroom teams to spend on bringing players in, meaning the risk/reward ratio gets ever more lopsided as more players are brought in.
We signed the lad from Bristol last week. Not really breaking news lol
With respect you are talking bollox, he needs to make sure our club is run properly from top to bottom, he’s started by putting the most important MR & AV on proper extended contracts, I’m sure he will back them.
I think the season ticket sales will back him up too, we have sold 9000 already.
What would he be worth? Significantly less than Gyökeres I'd assume but still relatively young. £10m?
Disagree
don’t get me wrong infrastructure is important but the team on the pitch comes first
Considering his fee is likely to be almost the only thing that will provide us with the funds to both replace him and improve the squad then if we don't invest a decent proportion of it into the squad chances are we're going to do a lot worse than last season.In all fairness while he often spouts rubbish he probably isn't all that wrong. I'd imagine a significant proportion of the Gyokeres fee will be set aside for investing into infrastructure and to cover operational costs for the forthcoming season. Then you have to factor in whatever monies are owed to Brighton and whether the club has repaid its EFL loan which from memory was over £2m.
Meaning I highly doubt anything more than a quarter of whatever the club receives will be invested back into the squad.
But then you increase the risk as you're playing pretty much with just a matchday squad.So what you are saying is to fill the gaps, you'd take 10 players that had the same qualities as players we have released because there are gaps to be filled.
Over my suggestion of taking 5/6 players who you pay a little more for and are actually an improvement on what we had previously, i.e quality over quantity.
Maybe it's who you isn't really grasping what I am saying, probably best that if you don't understand then not to reply as I am not sure I can dumb it down for you anymore.
Well said Hincha.We don't need 25 Championship quality players as some have suggested. I think you actually only need 20 or 21 players Robins trusts to play & are Championship quality with 4 or 5 youth players pushing for minutes (Howley, Burroughs, Tavares, Rus).
Man City only have around 18 or 19 players who Pep plays regularly & trusts.
Last year we only had around 16 players available by the end of the season who Robins trusted to play and it is probably why we fell short.
Looking to next year we probably need (assuming Vik leaves):
Wilson/Moore
RWB/RWB
Fadz/CB/CB/CB
Da Silva/Bidwell
Hamer/Sheaf/Eccles/Kelly
Palmer/O'Hare/Allen/AM
Godden/ST/ST
Minimum 8 more signings for 21 players. Maybe 9 to get a development CB as emergency back up 5th choice.
If Hamer/Bidwell/Moore/Kelly all go then more signings to directly replace them.
Apparently we’ve been rejected loads of times cause players look at the training ground and say fuckkkk thatttt and go somewhere else
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Well said Hincha.
In addition to the player recruitment the investment in Rytons facilities and pitches & CBS pitch this summer is important.
I can’t help think that there was a link between the number of calf and other soft tissue injuries and our current training surface.
Obviously, the intensity of our fixture schedule thanks to wasps and the World Cup were also factors in the injury toll.
All these injuries this year could be down to the basic facilties too. What's the point in signing players who could get injured after a week? Sorry but off the pitch is far more important and long term than signing a player for millions.Disagree
don’t get me wrong infrastructure is important but the team on the pitch comes first
So we need 8-9 new players unless those players we know are likely to leave, do so !. Then it’s 12-13 which is what others were suggesting in the first place !We don't need 25 Championship quality players as some have suggested. I think you actually only need 20 or 21 players Robins trusts to play & are Championship quality with 4 or 5 youth players pushing for minutes (Howley, Burroughs, Tavares, Rus).
Man City only have around 18 or 19 players who Pep plays regularly & trusts.
Last year we only had around 16 players available by the end of the season who Robins trusted to play and it is probably why we fell short.
Looking to next year we probably need (assuming Vik leaves):
Wilson/Moore
RWB/RWB
Fadz/CB/CB/CB
Da Silva/Bidwell
Hamer/Sheaf/Eccles/Kelly
Palmer/O'Hare/Allen/AM
Godden/ST/ST
Minimum 8 more signings for 21 players. Maybe 9 to get a development CB as emergency back up 5th choice.
If Hamer/Bidwell/Moore/Kelly all go then more signings to directly replace them.
Apparently we’ve been rejected loads of times cause players look at the training ground and say fuckkkk thatttt and go somewhere else
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Do you have any evidence of that?
We don't need 25 Championship quality players as some have suggested. I think you actually only need 20 or 21 players Robins trusts to play & are Championship quality with 4 or 5 youth players pushing for minutes (Howley, Burroughs, Tavares, Rus).
Man City only have around 18 or 19 players who Pep plays regularly & trusts.
Last year we only had around 16 players available by the end of the season who Robins trusted to play and it is probably why we fell short.
Looking to next year we probably need (assuming Vik leaves):
Wilson/Moore
RWB/RWB
Fadz/CB/CB/CB
Da Silva/Bidwell
Hamer/Sheaf/Eccles/Kelly
Palmer/O'Hare/Allen/AM
Godden/ST/ST
Minimum 8 more signings for 21 players. Maybe 9 to get a development CB as emergency back up 5th choice.
If Hamer/Bidwell/Moore/Kelly all go then more signings to directly replace them.
Concerning thing for us is this isn’t even the Swansea first team training ground if you are referring to the site next to the ground. This is for the academy and all the in the community stuff. Their training facilities are a step up again but about 25 min drive from the ground. Obviously if you are on about the site by Swansea airport then yeah it’s a lot better than Ryton.I think obviously there’s needs to be a middle ground found in terms of squad investment & investment in facilities. I walked past Swansea’s training ground on the way to the match last year and it was superb. Big modern building at the forefront with a big car park, several grass pitches, astro pitch with games etc on and then a huge indoor centre at the back. If you had the option of that place or Ryton then it would 100% sway your decision, no doubt.
The key word when making something up is 'apparently'.Do you have any evidence of that?
They also won the premier league whats your point?Having a super training ground has worked well for Leicester maybe if they had diverted some of the money they have spent on golf courses there to buying players they might have stopped up.
Training grounds are important but there value might be a bit overplayed by a manager who hasn’t managed to attract the player.
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