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Grendel

Grendel

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shmmeee said:
ITV digital collapsing and the complete mismanagement post relegation are to blame. Selling HR has nothing to do with it. We were fucked well before then.
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Selling it and McGinnity and Robinsons strategy was entirely to blame
 
Grendel

Grendel

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shmmeee said:
Nah. Fucking up the football is to blame. We proper fucked post relegation. If we’d gone up again no issues.
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We could have gone into administration and wiped our debts in an instant instead of selling everything that moved - which is what the ousted chairman was prepared to do - and use the buy back clause if needed
 
shmmeee

shmmeee

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Grendel said:
We could have gone into administration and wiped our debts in an instant instead of selling everything that moved - which is what the ousted chairman was prepared to do - and use the buy back clause if needed
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We could have, and I’d agree it would have been the smarter move. But we still could have been ok if we’d bounced back up and not done what we did.

I dont really subscribe to your shit man of history theory as you know. Because if I did I’d have to credit Seppala for the last six years!
 
The Philosopher

The Philosopher

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fernandopartridge said:
Yes, even if they even bother to commute in the week and don't just stay nearby

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I’m genuinely not trying to be pedantic and the original point of the post was why people elect to take a long distance loan when an equivalent one on the doorstep was available. Transfers are different; players know (or at least intend at point of signing) to be at a place for 3 years or so, so will most likely move to the area. With a 6-10 month loan, why commute / live in digs / stay at another player's house as some have suggested if you could just as easily take a local loan and stay home?

It was a simple musing.

O’Hare is a prime example. I’m fairly certain that the commute from Solihull to Ryton wasn’t daunting.

I’d guess Panzo didn’t need to stay in digs near Cov.

With O’Brien, it was a simple question of why choose Middlesbrough over us for a loan? Middlesbrough (unless you’ve been kicked in the head by a horse or think maps tell lies) is an unnecessary upheaval.

Latterly, in the real world, particularly post Covid, people are less inclined to travel to work. (Many have got used to working from home where their “own time” starts later and finishes earlier. Ie, logging on at 9 means you are having “own time” until 9. Jumping in a car at 8 after putting a suit on etc to get to an office at 9 means “own time” ends earlier than 8. People have started to see the benefits of not wasting time sat in traffic jams, burning fuel, wasting time and money.)

First question I ask when employing people is “where do you live”?. People who have a 10 minute journey are more likely to stay with a firm then those the other side of town who need to travel an hour.

Back to original point:

4/5 hour round trips to go training for 2 hours is a bit bonkers.

For loans, particularly young O’Hare types who probably live at home near their boyhood club, shouldn’t we be looking closer to home?

Have the (spits as types) Villa got any decent young AM’s?

Is Rico Richards any good?

I always thought Louie Barry a decent loan shout.
 
AFCCOVENTRY

AFCCOVENTRY

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The Philosopher said:
I’m genuinely not trying to be pedantic and the original point of the post was why people elect to take a long distance loan when an equivalent one on the doorstep was available. Transfers are different; players know (or at least intend at point of signing) to be at a place for 3 years or so, so will most likely move to the area. With a 6-10 month loan, why commute / live in digs / stay at another player's house as some have suggested if you could just as easily take a local loan and stay home?

It was a simple musing.

O’Hare is a prime example. I’m fairly certain that the commute from Solihull to Ryton wasn’t daunting.

I’d guess Panzo didn’t need to stay in digs near Cov.

With O’Brien, it was a simple question of why choose Middlesbrough over us for a loan? Middlesbrough (unless you’ve been kicked in the head by a horse or think maps tell lies) is an unnecessary upheaval.

Latterly, in the real world, particularly post Covid, people are less inclined to travel to work. (Many have got used to working from home where their “own time” starts later and finishes earlier. Ie, logging on at 9 means you are having “own time” until 9. Jumping in a car at 8 after putting a suit on etc to get to an office at 9 means “own time” ends earlier than 8. People have started to see the benefits of not wasting time sat in traffic jams, burning fuel, wasting time and money.)

First question I ask when employing people is “where do you live”?. People who have a 10 minute journey are more likely to stay with a firm then those the other side of town who need to travel an hour.

Back to original point:

4/5 hour round trips to go training for 2 hours is a bit bonkers.

For loans, particularly young O’Hare types who probably live at home near their boyhood club, shouldn’t we be looking closer to home?

Have the (spits as types) Villa got any decent young AM’s?

Is Rico Richards any good?

I always thought Louie Barry a decent loan shout.
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Doesn’t Robins live in Yorkshire and commutes everyday?
 
Saddlebrains

Saddlebrains

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The Philosopher said:
I’m genuinely not trying to be pedantic and the original point of the post was why people elect to take a long distance loan when an equivalent one on the doorstep was available. Transfers are different; players know (or at least intend at point of signing) to be at a place for 3 years or so, so will most likely move to the area. With a 6-10 month loan, why commute / live in digs / stay at another player's house as some have suggested if you could just as easily take a local loan and stay home?

It was a simple musing.

O’Hare is a prime example. I’m fairly certain that the commute from Solihull to Ryton wasn’t daunting.

I’d guess Panzo didn’t need to stay in digs near Cov.

With O’Brien, it was a simple question of why choose Middlesbrough over us for a loan? Middlesbrough (unless you’ve been kicked in the head by a horse or think maps tell lies) is an unnecessary upheaval.

Latterly, in the real world, particularly post Covid, people are less inclined to travel to work. (Many have got used to working from home where their “own time” starts later and finishes earlier. Ie, logging on at 9 means you are having “own time” until 9. Jumping in a car at 8 after putting a suit on etc to get to an office at 9 means “own time” ends earlier than 8. People have started to see the benefits of not wasting time sat in traffic jams, burning fuel, wasting time and money.)

First question I ask when employing people is “where do you live”?. People who have a 10 minute journey are more likely to stay with a firm then those the other side of town who need to travel an hour.

Back to original point:

4/5 hour round trips to go training for 2 hours is a bit bonkers.

For loans, particularly young O’Hare types who probably live at home near their boyhood club, shouldn’t we be looking closer to home?

Have the (spits as types) Villa got any decent young AM’s?

Is Rico Richards any good?

I always thought Louie Barry a decent loan shout.
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Mate

Stop it
 
SlowerThanPlatt

SlowerThanPlatt

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The Philosopher said:
I’m genuinely not trying to be pedantic and the original point of the post was why people elect to take a long distance loan when an equivalent one on the doorstep was available. Transfers are different; players know (or at least intend at point of signing) to be at a place for 3 years or so, so will most likely move to the area. With a 6-10 month loan, why commute / live in digs / stay at another player's house as some have suggested if you could just as easily take a local loan and stay home?

It was a simple musing.

O’Hare is a prime example. I’m fairly certain that the commute from Solihull to Ryton wasn’t daunting.

I’d guess Panzo didn’t need to stay in digs near Cov.

With O’Brien, it was a simple question of why choose Middlesbrough over us for a loan? Middlesbrough (unless you’ve been kicked in the head by a horse or think maps tell lies) is an unnecessary upheaval.

Latterly, in the real world, particularly post Covid, people are less inclined to travel to work. (Many have got used to working from home where their “own time” starts later and finishes earlier. Ie, logging on at 9 means you are having “own time” until 9. Jumping in a car at 8 after putting a suit on etc to get to an office at 9 means “own time” ends earlier than 8. People have started to see the benefits of not wasting time sat in traffic jams, burning fuel, wasting time and money.)

First question I ask when employing people is “where do you live”?. People who have a 10 minute journey are more likely to stay with a firm then those the other side of town who need to travel an hour.

Back to original point:

4/5 hour round trips to go training for 2 hours is a bit bonkers.

For loans, particularly young O’Hare types who probably live at home near their boyhood club, shouldn’t we be looking closer to home?

Have the (spits as types) Villa got any decent young AM’s?

Is Rico Richards any good?

I always thought Louie Barry a decent loan shout.
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Barry is on loan in League 2 after failing to make an impact at two League 1 clubs
 
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Pusb1

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to be honest. At this point i'd rather pad out the squad with loanees rather than panic buy and waste Gus money.

I do think we'll end up with 1-2 younger Prem loans.

The Gus money is still a huge sum, and i'd rather take adequate time to reinevest that in the right player/players, rather than chucking it away.

Get some loanees in until Jan, whilst still continuing to bid/line suitable longer term replacements, and we can have them ready and through the door on Jan 1st.

Most teams that have gone up recently have relied on a couple of decent Prem loans, and i notice there hasn't been much loan movement this year.

i think that will be the best case
 
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Levship20

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Pusb1 said:
to be honest. At this point i'd rather pad out the squad with loanees rather than panic buy and waste Gus money.

I do think we'll end up with 1-2 younger Prem loans.

The Gus money is still a huge sum, and i'd rather take adequate time to reinevest that in the right player/players, rather than chucking it away.

Get some loanees in until Jan, whilst still continuing to bid/line suitable longer term replacements, and we can have them ready and through the door on Jan 1st.

Most teams that have gone up recently have relied on a couple of decent Prem loans, and i notice there hasn't been much loan movement this year.

i think that will be the best case
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At last, a sensible no panic statement 👍🏻
 
The Philosopher

The Philosopher

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However you look at it we are thin on the ground rn.

More creativity this year will come from our WB’s than last.

Sheaf can possibly do some of the Gus longer pass work.

Last year, after Cal was injured, Gus started to move forward more and became more AM than CDM.

Until we get Cal fit, we need a runner. 6 month loan might do it.
 
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Deity

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SeaSeeEffCee said:
There hasn’t been a midfielder properly rumoured since we sold Hamer really.
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I think O’Brien has been rumoured both on here and in the papers …. Outside of that you are right it’s been incredibly quiet.

Kitch, Cashin, and Brekalo rumours for centre half.

I font think I’ve seen a single rumour for the attacking / wide player with pace since Dragus
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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shmmeee said:
ITV digital collapsing and the complete mismanagement post relegation are to blame. Selling HR has nothing to do with it. We were fucked well before then.
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I dunno - selling highfield road before we had a ground to go to meaning we were paying big sums to rent it back was the start. As you said ITV digital going bump + the 113m noose around our neck from that point onwards was definitely the catalyst. Not the transfer fees
 
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