shmmeee
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Isn’t he an illegal migrant?
Trump is my favourite comedian of the year already (12 Viewers)
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Isn’t he an illegal migrant?
MalcSB
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It’s already been pointed out to me that he isn't eligible to be president of USA. Given his earnings he won’t be an illegal immigrant. It was more to get a sarcastic USX
Brighton Sky Blue
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What might have been. Love his passion even at the age of 83.
The Philosopher
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And the Democratic Party that some fools on here laud as the beacon of fairness and democracy blocked him for Clinton.
“Save democracy, Trump’s a fascist”
Then, despite saying Biden is “sharp as a tack”, having a “democratic” primary, switched horses when they realised Biden is in cognitive decline.
Cue another “democratic” primary? Nope. Bypass that and install Harris.
“save democracy, Trump’s a fascist”.
It’s baffling, that anyone who supports Sanders could then see what they did to him and believe the Democratic Party is the way forward.
Addled.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Because I supported Bernie’s policies and Trump’s are almost the exact opposite. Kamala Harris while still nowhere near, was much closer to the Bernie position.
Otis
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Oops?
The Philosopher
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Nothing wrong with analysing data to see patterns. CNN are doing that right now.
Same illiberal liberals who spout “follow the science” then spout “don’t analyse data before forming an opinion”.
Many people, including Democrats, are questioning why there are so fewer votes. It’ll be interesting to see the results.
That’s all. Have a soy latte and calm down.
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The Philosopher
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Probably some lefty upset that he voted Trump.
The Philosopher
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This’ll be half this forum if Lampard (a confirmed Tory) becomes our manager.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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FFY
Brighton Sky Blue
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Medicare for all would be where I’d start
Flying Fokker
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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I fully expect him to try and overturn the two terms rule.
Otis
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Or his cognition will get so bad he will say he hasn't served any terms yet and has two terms still ahead of him.
Brighton Sky Blue
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It gives JD Vance 4 years to work out how to buy a doughnut
Otis
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And how on earth some have holes in them
Brighton Sky Blue
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‘Your body, my choice’ says MAGA. Again baffles me how so many women voted for this maniac.
The Philosopher
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The misinformed merchants will spout nonsense, but the bottom line is factually:
Trump devolved the issue to the States, like we have devolved certain issues to Scotland, Wales and NI. As with this issue historically with NI, it’s tricky and causes division amongst the religious / non-religious, devout Christian/Muslim/Amish, pro-life/pro-choice, Inception v 6 week,12week 24 week, 3 exceptions.
I believe you know this and know that Trump never mooted an outright ban.
Prove me wrong or, respectfully, stop the lefty trick of outright lies.
Waiting…..
Skybluekyle
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Only Congress can approve such an amendment and it would have to be a two thirds majority in both houses.
Of course the 22nd amendment was required following FDR going against long established precedent.
Trump isn’t the first President to talk about amending it, Reagan and Clinton, off the top of my head.
CovValleyBoy
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CovValleyBoy
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Final Word.
GOP 312 Democrats 226
All Swing States Trumped.
"one hell of a beating"
& some mandate for the 4 year term.
GOP 312 Democrats 226
All Swing States Trumped.
"one hell of a beating"
& some mandate for the 4 year term.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Trump spent most of his life in the pro-choice position. Then, since he began campaigning as a Republican, realised that this stance would cost him too many votes from the base. So he changed his mind on the issue and has expressed a whole load of contradictory views on it in the past decade. This year in one piece he boasted about the Supreme Court decision, and then also said that Arizona had ‘gone too far’ and he would try to get them to change things as President.
It’s like when in 2016 he spoke of making sure that ‘everybody would be covered’ with healthcare, then moved to trying to boot loads of people off healthcare, and now says he has ‘concepts of a plan’.
Wasting my time here really. Everyone who supports this guy thinks he can do no wrong. The goalposts will always be moved, and facts denied, because that’s how things work in a cult of personality.
The Philosopher
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I think you are saying that Trump hasn’t said that he will ban abortion and agree that it’s a divisive subject. It can be conceded, with retrospect, that attempting to devolve the issue hasn’t solved it.
The consensus of evidence is that many Trump voters acknowledge his flaws but have decided, on balance, that he is the better choice.
My opener was that he waffles twaddle. He also has said some unacceptable “locker talk” and has engaged, probably, in some questionable business practices in the past.
To suggest that anyone who favours him believes “he can do no wrong” is, of course, a ridiculous sweeping statement. Be better.
Aside from my own company US exports, I’ve no real dog in the fight. Trump is a half-Brit Anglophile. The current president is not. The USA is vital to the UK for trade, defence, intelligence and security. To be anti-Trump is short sighted from a UK perspective.
Which of my points can you disagree with?
The consensus of evidence is that many Trump voters acknowledge his flaws but have decided, on balance, that he is the better choice.
My opener was that he waffles twaddle. He also has said some unacceptable “locker talk” and has engaged, probably, in some questionable business practices in the past.
To suggest that anyone who favours him believes “he can do no wrong” is, of course, a ridiculous sweeping statement. Be better.
Aside from my own company US exports, I’ve no real dog in the fight. Trump is a half-Brit Anglophile. The current president is not. The USA is vital to the UK for trade, defence, intelligence and security. To be anti-Trump is short sighted from a UK perspective.
Which of my points can you disagree with?
Brighton Sky Blue
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My past points on this have been that the argument of ‘states rights’ tends to be used to defend the indefensible with the best example being to justify continued slavery in the South. Women have died because of this decision, many more have been raped and now have to carry their rapist’s child to term. Doctors now refuse to provide medical care to pregnant women in distress in case they are arrested. Trump knew these would be the consequences of what he did. He did it anyway. Their deaths are on his hands.
As for you, you weighed in on the thread with a thinly veiled comment that 2020’s results weren’t genuine. That tells me all there is to know about your slant on Trump.
Sick Boy
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I’m sure the tariffs that’ll inevitably get slapped on UK imports will be great for the UK.
The Philosopher
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C’mon.
U.S. goods and services trade with United Kingdom totaled an estimated $295.6 billion in 2022. Exports were $158.2 billion; imports were $137.4 billion. The U.S. goods and services trade surplus with United Kingdom was $20.8 billion in 2022.
We will have the option to impose reciprocal tariffs to equalise and would in a flat line scenario be $5bn better off.
There is nothing to be gained and US officials have already suggested that tariffs on UK imports are unlikely.
Next…..
tisza
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Was a demographic issue. Only demographic where reprouctive rights was the main issue was women aged 18-29. All the other female demographics were voting on economy, immigration and "state of the democracy".
Brighton Sky Blue
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You think we can get into a trade war with the US?
Brighton Sky Blue
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Economy: doing objectively better by any measure since 2020.
Immigration: I suppose there is no way to upstage a man pledging to deport everyone.
State of democracy: Nuff said
chiefdave
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One thing you have to say about trump is he defiantly comes off as someone who carefully studies all the data and asses the impact before making a decision
Come on, if Trump and his echo chamber want to do it they will do it. As we keep getting told Trump has everything sewn up now and can pretty much do what he wants. US officials will be making those sort of suggestions to others to avoid spooking the markets. They have no idea what Trump will or won't do.
He's been making promises about all sorts of crazy stuff, seemingly off the cuff, on the campaign trail. Nobody has a clue what he will actually implement.
Como
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$5 for a dozen normal eggs up 3 fold.
I am not saying the economy is not doing well for the elites, but that was not who switched.
Immigration , well what happened to all those Refugee Welcome signs in progressive areas, ok much less likely to be an issue for them but seems they are not taking any chances.
I am not saying the economy is not doing well for the elites, but that was not who switched.
Immigration , well what happened to all those Refugee Welcome signs in progressive areas, ok much less likely to be an issue for them but seems they are not taking any chances.