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Trump is my favourite comedian of the year already (11 Viewers)

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Evo1883

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  • Jan 21, 2025
  • #8,261
shmmeee said:
Liberal democracy, minority rights, self determination, everything 1945-1970 basically.
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And you think that his clumsy salute means these things will be dismantled ?
 

Boicey

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  • Jan 21, 2025
  • #8,262
I doubt it's the first time Musk has done a nazi salute tbh.
It's a very strange unnatural gesture to 'accidently' do. He clicked into something he's done before.
The fact he's a far right extremist hardly helps his 'defence' does it.
It's just another addition to his cretinous dangerous extremist nutcase catalogue.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 21, 2025
  • #8,263
Evo1883 said:
It's not even about left and right , there are people who vote for left /centre left parties and hold many left wing beliefs that are fed up with the nonsense.

People worry about nonsense like this which gets us talking but it's a nothing burger , his influence on world politics Is a bigger issue
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What do you mean by “the nonsense”?

Pendulums swing, I’d agree that we probably need to swing back in some areas, but the concern that once that swing back starts it’ll also go too far the other way as pendulums do is a fair one.

I’ve got mates in America genuinely concerned they’ll lose their job for having the wrong political beliefs. And maybe Trump is just joking, or maybe he’s not, it’s the uncertainty.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 21, 2025
  • #8,264
Evo1883 said:
And you think that his clumsy salute means these things will be dismantled ?
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I’ve not said that. But “clumsy salutes” or a whole bunch of other stuff was just outright not tolerated for decades after the war. Things like standards in public life, an understanding of the power of political rhetoric, respect for international law, etc aren’t “wokeness” they are the safeguards we put in after we saw what fascism does.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jan 21, 2025
  • #8,265
shmmeee said:
What do you mean by “the nonsense”?

Pendulums swing, I’d agree that we probably need to swing back in some areas, but the concern that once that swing back starts it’ll also go too far the other way as pendulums do is a fair one.

I’ve got mates in America genuinely concerned they’ll lose their job for having the wrong political beliefs. And maybe Trump is just joking, or maybe he’s not, it’s the uncertainty.
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These are entirely valid concerns


Elon Musk doing a clumsy chest pump is of concern to nobody in reality
 

Boicey

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  • Jan 21, 2025
  • #8,266
Is Evo really endlessly boring us with the snowflake slur instead of calling out Musk.
Bizarre.
 
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MalcSB

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  • Jan 21, 2025
  • #8,267
Evo1883 said:
Sorry but people are bored with the perennially offended .. he's a twat sure , but let's not pretend he's about to start the 4th reich
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So, are we not going to pretend because he is going to do it in reality?

You are defending them so much, you must be a part of the cabal and hence an itk
 
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PVA

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  • Jan 21, 2025
  • #8,268
Evo1883 said:
People worry about nonsense like this which gets us talking but it's a nothing burger , his influence on world politics Is a bigger issue
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But the two things are linked.

It's worrying that someone with such an influence on world politics, as you say, is up on stage doing a nazi salute.
 
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MalcSB

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  • Jan 21, 2025
  • #8,269
Evo1883 said:
These are entirely valid concerns


Elon Musk doing a clumsy chest pump is of concern to nobody in reality
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Oh fuck off, it was more than just a clumsy chest pump
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jan 21, 2025
  • #8,270
Boicey said:
Is Evo really endlessly boring us with the snowflake slur instead of calling out Musk.
Bizarre.
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I've stated several times already his attack on British and European politics is an issue , and that he's a twat .

I just can't believe people would rather wrap there heads in a clumsy salute that means fuck all , who cares about that shit
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 21, 2025
  • #8,271
Evo1883 said:
These are entirely valid concerns


Elon Musk doing a clumsy chest pump is of concern to nobody in reality
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It’s the whole piece. On its own no one cares. Paired with other 4chan style “lol fascism for fun” rhetoric it’s a bit different.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jan 21, 2025
  • #8,272
PVA said:
But the two things are linked.

It's worrying that someone with such an influence on world politics, as you say, is up on stage doing a nazi salute.
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If you think that Elon Musk has gone on stage and purposely done a nazi salute to show the world he's a nazi then I have no words
 

Evo1883

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  • Jan 21, 2025
  • #8,273
MalcSB said:
Oh fuck off, it was more than just a clumsy chest pump
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In your mind it was , hence the offence

Reality is probably different
 

MalcSB

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  • Jan 21, 2025
  • #8,274
Boicey said:
Is Evo really endlessly boring us with the snowflake slur instead of calling out Musk.
Bizarre.
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Insulting us more like. Fuck knows why. If Tommy Robinson did the same thing he would be appalled and offended.

Double standards.
 

rob9872

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  • Jan 21, 2025
  • #8,275
fernandopartridge said:
Are you advocating that Kier Starmer is given supreme executive power? That's a real surprise if I'm honest
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Tbh why not for some of the small stuff. He wasn't my choice but let his government govern. Almost like a signatory policy level. We get so embroiled in conformity that lots of good stuff is like wading through treacle.
 
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MalcSB

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  • Jan 21, 2025
  • #8,276
Evo1883 said:
In your mind it was , hence the offence

Reality is probably different
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Not just in my mind though, is it.

Probably isn't definitive, is it.
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Jan 21, 2025
  • #8,277
Evo1883 said:
These are entirely valid concerns


Elon Musk doing a clumsy chest pump is of concern to nobody in reality
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As someone else pointed out, you don’t have any business telling people what their opinions need to be.
 

Evo1883

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  • Jan 21, 2025
  • #8,278
MalcSB said:
Insulting us more like. Fuck knows why. If Tommy Robinson did the same thing he would be appalled and offended.

Double standards.
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I've states several times what I think of Elon Musk.
 

Evo1883

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  • Jan 21, 2025
  • #8,279
Ring Of Steel said:
As someone else pointed out, you don’t have any business telling people what their opinions need to be.
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They are telling me what my opinion should be though ?
 

MalcSB

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  • Jan 21, 2025
  • #8,280
Evo1883 said:
If you think that Elon Musk has gone on stage and purposely done a nazi salute to show the world he's a nazi then I have no words
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Thank god for that, hopefully you will shut the fuck up.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jan 21, 2025
  • #8,281
MalcSB said:
Thank bid for that, hopefully you will shut the fuck up.
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torchomatic

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  • Jan 21, 2025
  • #8,282
Boicey said:
I doubt it's the first time Musk has done a nazi salute tbh.
It's a very strange unnatural gesture to 'accidently' do. He clicked into something he's done before.
The fact he's a far right extremist hardly helps his 'defence' does it.
It's just another addition to his cretinous dangerous extremist nutcase catalogue.
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I find it really weird that Trump and Musk have so many fanboys over here in the UK. My mate is one. It's really odd.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 21, 2025
  • #8,283
Think this is a good take on it:

Did He Actually Do That?

Elon Musk either had a slipped-mask moment or is supremely awkward.
www.theatlantic.com
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jan 21, 2025
  • #8,284
torchomatic said:
I find it really weird that Trump and Musk have so many fanboys over here in the UK. My mate is one. It's really odd.
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I know loads of people who are happy trump is in power , I am fully behind democracy and the will of the people but it's a bit like many of us with brexit at the time who were duped into thinking it would be a great thing , I understand it more as I get older

I wouldnt vote trump
 
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Northants Sky Blue

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  • Jan 21, 2025
  • #8,285
"Accidentally" throwing a Nazi salute days after endorsing the AFD.

I mean, thats a very generous take on it
 
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SBT

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  • Jan 21, 2025
  • #8,286
Evo1883 said:
These are entirely valid concerns


Elon Musk doing a clumsy chest pump is of concern to nobody in reality
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People who do something clumsy are typically contrite afterwards, aren’t they?
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jan 21, 2025
  • #8,287
Northants Sky Blue said:
"Accidentally" throwing a Nazi salute days after endorsing the AFD.

I mean, thats a very generous take on it
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In fairness , I doubt they are any more right wing than what's in power in America right now
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Jan 21, 2025
  • #8,288
torchomatic said:
I find it really weird that Trump and Musk have so many fanboys over here in the UK. My mate is one. It's really odd.
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I think some people over here see them shagging who they want, screwing over who they want, saying what they want, airing their repugnant views publicly… and not only getting away with it but getting rewarded for it. Trump & Musk are doing and saying what some people would love to do & say themselves if they could get away with it. A pretty bad indictment of the society we currently live in really.
 

torchomatic

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  • Jan 21, 2025
  • #8,289
Evo1883 said:
I know loads of people who are happy trump is in power , I am fully behind democracy and the will of the people but it's a bit like many of us with brexit at the time who were duped into thinking it would be a great thing , I understand it more as I get older

I wouldnt vote trump
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I always find it remarkable how many people were supposedly "duped" into voting Brexit. It really wasn't difficult to fathom how it would turn out.
 

Evo1883

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  • Jan 21, 2025
  • #8,290
SBT said:
People who do something clumsy are typically contrite afterwards, aren’t they?
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Autistic people can do things differently as we all know
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jan 21, 2025
  • #8,291
torchomatic said:
I always find it remarkable how many people were supposedly "duped" into voting Brexit. It really wasn't difficult to fathom how it would turn out.
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For many sure , for many not so much
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jan 21, 2025
  • #8,292
I mean I detest Trump and Musk… but I’m not sure it was a Nazi salute… there’s bigger issues at play regarding Musk. This is one of those things you just shake your head at

I mean MvE dropped this whopper last season against Milwall

 

ajsccfc

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  • Jan 21, 2025
  • #8,293
Elon Musk may have recently and very publicly advocated for AfD, a far right party classified as "suspected extremist" by its own country, but there's no way he'd break out the salute on the day he's surrounded by enablers and christened as being completely free from consequence. He was probably just waving to the Chinese lads walking up to the parochial house and this can all be explained with a quick slideshow and a pint
 
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SBT

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  • Jan 21, 2025
  • #8,294
Evo1883 said:
Autistic people can do things differently as we all know
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Sure, but an autistic person who’s been handed the keys to the entire American civil service presumably has a greater level of responsibility than your average Joe. Or can he just do whatever he wants because he’s autistic?
 
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MalcSB

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  • Jan 21, 2025
  • #8,295
Evo1883 said:
They are telling me what my opinion should be though ?
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Are they? Most people have been posting their opinion and you are coming back and telling them that they shouldn’t have that opinion.
Evo1883 said:
I've stated several times already his attack on British and European politics is an issue , and that he's a twat .

I just can't believe people would rather wrap there heads in a clumsy salute that means fuck all , who cares about that shit
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So, if Tommy Robinson did it it would mean nothing then?
 
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