Trump is my favourite comedian of the year already (33 Viewers)

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Might just be me but not really following why it makes the blindest bit of difference either way. Obviously the manchild wants it as America but, practically, what changes?

Part of it is just Trump being a child, BUT there may also be some thinking behind it.

A brain will have a subconcious bias on whether it's called the Gulf of Mexico or the Gulf of America and who has the most right to it. By trying to change it to Gulf of America then that bias could change and less people would complain if Trump put a stronger naval force in the area which could give them more control on migrants (most would come over land but some must try by water, as well as places like Cuba etc.

Trouble is I don't trust him or those around him to not take that to extreme measures.

 

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[SkyBlueDom26]

A good leader, less fucking around and straight to the point. Time to bring all the hostages home

Can guarantee the usual lot will find something wrong with it, Blame Hamas and the other terrorists

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

A good leader, less fucking around and straight to the point. Time to bring all the hostages home

Time for Netanyahu to be put on trial for war crimes

 

[Sick Boy]

Laurence Fox

 

[SkyBlueCharlie9]

A good leader, less fucking around and straight to the point. Time to bring all the hostages home

Can guarantee the usual lot will find something wrong with it, Blame Hamas and the other terrorists

Just put his poster up on your wall next to the ones of Musk, Tate and Farage.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Just put his poster up on your wall next to the ones of Musk, Tate and Farage.

Emilia fox maybe

 

[Sick Boy]

Perfectly normal.

 

[Otis]

Perfectly normal.

He's a lunatic.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

It’s not a hate crime unless he says something as well
Just let him live in his land of hate
He’s a professional victim
And he thinks the judge was wrong to keep his kids from him wow
Not that family courts are fairn

 

[Sick Boy]

It’s not a hate crime unless he says something as well
Just let him live in his land of hate
He’s a professional victim
And he thinks the judge was wrong to keep his kids from him wow
Not that family courts are fairn

Fox is a very odd person.

 

[shmmeee]

It’s not a hate crime unless he says something as well
Just let him live in his land of hate
He’s a professional victim
And he thinks the judge was wrong to keep his kids from him wow
Not that family courts are fairn

It’s not a hate crime unless he commits a crime. Being a cringe divorced dad isn’t a crime. Thankfully.

 

[shmmeee]

Fox is a very odd person.

Wouldn’t you be if you let Billie Piper slip through your hands?

 

[rob9872]

It’s not a hate crime unless he says something as well
Just let him live in his land of hate
He’s a professional victim
And he thinks the judge was wrong to keep his kids from him wow
Not that family courts are fairn

Doesn't rhyme

 

[rob9872]

Wouldn’t you be if you let Billie Piper slip through your hands?

She's slipped through my fingers a few times

 

[shmmeee]

She's slipped through my fingers a few times

She’s got dreadful taste in men Rob I reckon we’d have been in with a shout you know.

 

[CCFCSteve]

Whatever people think of DOGE (and I think some of the conduct appears a bit extreme), some of the stuff they are uncovering, assuming it’s true, is almost comical, as well as also concerning.



I reckon the fall out from all this could be significant in the U.S. but also the U.K. and EU. The inability or unwillingness to properly account for expenditure like private companies have to is totally unacceptable. Hopefully this will lead to far closer scrutiny and transparency of where all the money is going

FWIW I hope they re-establish USAid as it no doubt did a lot of good, but from what I’ve read it needs far better controls and focus.

 

[chiefdave]

A good leader, less fucking around and straight to the point. Time to bring all the hostages home

Can guarantee the usual lot will find something wrong with it, Blame Hamas and the other terrorists

Meanwhile, back in the real world

There are fears about a possible resumption of the war in Gaza, after Israel's security cabinet supported President Trump's demand for all remaining hostages to be returned on Saturday

Trump's call for all hostages to be freed by Saturday is now threatening a ceasefire

 

[chiefdave]

Whatever people think of DOGE (and I think some of the conduct appears a bit extreme), some of the stuff they are uncovering, assuming it’s true, is almost comical, as well as also concerning.



I reckon the fall out from all this could be significant in the U.S. but also the U.K. and EU. The inability or unwillingness to properly account for expenditure like private companies have to is totally unacceptable. Hopefully this will lead to far closer scrutiny and transparency of where all the money is going

FWIW I hope they re-establish USAid as it no doubt did a lot of good, but from what I’ve read it needs far better controls and focus.

A quick google suggests that what is being claimed may well be slightly misleading to say the least. What is pictured is an off site storage archive, seems no actual work there.

There is also a logic to requiring all that paperwork. Many of the federal employees retiring now and in recent years will have been federal employees for decades. Their records go back to the days when all records were on paper. Now it seems the method of calculation for federal pensions is fairly complex and involves looking at the pay throughout their entire employment. Therefore you need to look back at pay records for decades, which are on paper, and have to be stored somewhere.

I'm 100% certain there are efficiencies to be made in government, there is in all governments. The problem is it often costs more to locate these inefficiencies and put replacement processes in place. Just going in an getting rid of entire departments of staff and shutting things down isn't making anything more efficient.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Whatever people think of DOGE (and I think some of the conduct appears a bit extreme), some of the stuff they are uncovering, assuming it’s true, is almost comical, as well as also concerning.



I reckon the fall out from all this could be significant in the U.S. but also the U.K. and EU. The inability or unwillingness to properly account for expenditure like private companies have to is totally unacceptable. Hopefully this will lead to far closer scrutiny and transparency of where all the money is going

FWIW I hope they re-establish USAid as it no doubt did a lot of good, but from what I’ve read it needs far better controls and focus.

Not surprised to see you defending it Steve. The richest man in the world being allowed to hack into a government and just arbitrarily cut whatever he wants with no oversight in most normal countries would be seen as an outrage.

A further while ago you asked me to sit and watch Bill Maher's straw man ramblings about the election result. Time to listen in full to why the US turning into an oligarchy is a far bigger concern than how the US processes some retirement forms

 

[CCFCSteve]

I'm 100% certain there are efficiencies to be made in government, there is in all governments. The problem is it often costs more to locate these inefficiencies and put replacement processes in place. Just going in an getting rid of entire departments of staff and shutting things down isn't making anything more efficient.

Agree with this Dave. Unless you know individuals have been involved in fraud or intentionally misusing public monies I don’t get clearing everyone out. Just put proper systems in place and make sure that everyone follows them. I have no doubt that DOGE will cause some unnecessary damage by some of the actions/approach they’ve taken they’ve taken

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Agree with this Dave. Unless you know individuals have been involved in fraud or intentionally misusing public monies I don’t get clearing everyone out. Just put proper systems in place and make sure that everyone follows them. I have no doubt that DOGE will cause some unnecessary damage by some of the actions/approach they’ve taken they’ve taken

Is that not the plan
Fraud woke wasted money
I’m here for the billions that then needs to be spent to make it right - mr e musk

 

[CCFCSteve]

Saunders makes some very good points and I agree with a fair few of them. Hes just reeled off a load of stats that should be an embarrassment to America but his party has been in power for the last four years (12 out of the last 16). A significant proportion of the country choose a narcasist nutter to be in charge rather than a Democrat. If that’s not a time for some self reflection I don’t know what is

Edit - wanting governments not to waste tax payers money and not wanting Trump to be the leader of the free world shouldn't be mutually exclusive

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Saunders makes some very good points and I agree with a fair few of them. Hes just reeled off a load of stats that should be an embarrassment to America but his party has been in power for the last four years (12 out of the last 16). A significant proportion of the country choose a narcasist nutter to be in charge rather than a Democrat. If that’s not a time for some self reflection I don’t know what is

He isn't a Democrat.

 

[CCFCSteve]

He isn't a Democrat.

Ok his former party but they’re the party he tried to represent in the primaries in 2016 and 2020

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Ok his former party but they’re the party he tried to represent in the primaries in 2016 and 2020

Because anyone wanting to be President realistically has to pick between two choices.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Surely we all want to war to end, and if it has to be Trump that makes some headway with Putin to do it, that isn't a bad thing? I am curious how those with TDS are going to twist this.

Trump speaks to Putin and says negotiations to end Ukraine war start 'immediately' - follow live

 

[Otis]

Surely we all want to war to end, and if it has to be Trump that makes some headway with Putin to do it, that isn't a bad thing? I am curious how those with TDS are going to twist this.

Trump speaks to Putin and says negotiations to end Ukraine war start 'immediately' - follow live

I don't care who it is who brings about any kind of peace, if it's Trump , then great, but I do reckon Putin will have Trump wrapped around his little finger

This is the guy who thinks he can buy countries and relocate a whole nation in a different country that doesn't want them.

It's all but 100% certain that Russia sees Trump as some kind of clueless idiot.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Surely we all want to war to end, and if it has to be Trump that makes some headway with Putin to do it, that isn't a bad thing? I am curious how those with TDS are going to twist this.

Trump speaks to Putin and says negotiations to end Ukraine war start 'immediately' - follow live

The usual bellends on here will still say he’s the worst human on the planet

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

I don't care who it is who brings about any kind of peace, if it's Trump , then great, but I do reckon Putin will have Trump wrapped around his little finger

This is the guy who thinks he can buy countries and relocate a whole nation in a different country that doesn't want them.

It's all but 100% certain that Russia sees Trump as some kind of clueless idiot.

Do you actually do anything other than sitting on this forum all day every day? Almost as bad as @shmmeee

 

[CCFCSteve]

Surely we all want to war to end, and if it has to be Trump that makes some headway with Putin to do it, that isn't a bad thing? I am curious how those with TDS are going to twist this.

Trump speaks to Putin and says negotiations to end Ukraine war start 'immediately' - follow live

It’s great news if Trump can find a mutually acceptable position for both sides to agree to end the war although my concern is this…

‘Donald Trump says he had a phone call with Russian President Vladimir Putin and that they agreed to start negotiations to end the war in Ukraine "immediately"

"We have also agreed to have our respective teams start negotiations immediately, and we will begin by calling President Volodymyr Zelensky, of Ukraine, to inform him of the conversation, something which I will be doing right now," Trump adds.

This wording together with some other reports suggest it’s Putin and Trump in the negotiations, not Putin and Zelensky (and possibly Trump).

I hope this isn’t the case as it doesn’t sit comfortably with me at all if it is

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Surely we all want to war to end, and if it has to be Trump that makes some headway with Putin to do it, that isn't a bad thing? I am curious how those with TDS are going to twist this.

Trump speaks to Putin and says negotiations to end Ukraine war start 'immediately' - follow live

My assumption is they will meet to draw up spheres of influence whereby the US 'gets' Greenland and Putin gets Ukraine or a big chunk of it.

 

[PVA]

Surely we all want to war to end, and if it has to be Trump that makes some headway with Putin to do it, that isn't a bad thing? I am curious how those with TDS are going to twist this.

Trump speaks to Putin and says negotiations to end Ukraine war start 'immediately' - follow live

If he helps end the war with a mutually acceptable deal, then great.

If he ends the war by giving Putin what he wants, then clearly that is a bad thing.

 

[Otis]

Do you actually do anything other than sitting on this forum all day every day? Almost as bad as @shmmeee

Most definitely.

And this is one of the only things I moan about. I am usually very upbeat about most stuff. You only need to check my posting history to confirm that.

Just being a rapist should be enough for anyone to be against Trump, without starting on all the other stuff.

And I am with PVA here on this one. I think there will be one clear winner and it will be Putin. The previous US regime supported Ukraine through weapons, money and aid.

Trump has already said he is talking about stopping that funding.

That puts Putin in a much stronger position and Putin is a man who simply cannot be trusted.

 

[Sick Boy]

If he helps end the war with a mutually acceptable deal, then great.

If he ends the war by giving Putin what he wants, then clearly that is a bad thing.

It’s pretty obvious that Russia will keep the current territory and will probably get back those that Ukraine currently hold in Russia. The idea that negotiations would only begin when Ukraine chose to was never going to happen.

There’s also no chance of Ukraine joining NATO.

 

[Grendel]

I don't care who it is who brings about any kind of peace, if it's Trump , then great, but I do reckon Putin will have Trump wrapped around his little finger

This is the guy who thinks he can buy countries and relocate a whole nation in a different country that doesn't want them.

It's all but 100% certain that Russia sees Trump as some kind of clueless idiot.

Putin is zero threat to Trump. The clueless idiots are the west for pouring billions into a pointless country to try and prop it up under the pretend scenario they wanted it to win in the first place.