Again, truth hurts doesn't it.
Already started on card #2 then.
You were more upset the orange man was saying mean words to Zelensky
I'm not entirely sure what all the side arguments are about so cant get involved.
But Trump and Vances behaviour should concern everybody but Putin and trumps support base .. because its wild
It's repulsive - presumably it repulses Starmer as well. But if the alternative is having the UK get humiliated on international TV and throwing months of diplomacy out the window because JD Vance fancies an IRL Twitter beef, then is that a better outcome for the country? And that's a genuine question btw.PVA's hero went grovelling to these cunts yesterday
It's repulsive - presumably it repulses Starmer as well. But if the alternative is having the UK get humiliated on international TV and throwing months of diplomacy out the window because JD Vance fancies an IRL Twitter beef, then is that a better outcome for the country? And that's a genuine question btw.
The UK was humiliated. Offering that c**t a state visit and reading to him. Embarrassing.It's repulsive - presumably it repulses Starmer as well. But if the alternative is having the UK get humiliated on international TV and throwing months of diplomacy out the window because JD Vance fancies an IRL Twitter beef, then is that a better outcome for the country? And that's a genuine question btw.
I agree. How about the diplomacy though?The UK was humiliated. Offering that c**t a state visit and reading to him. Embarrassing.
What actual material concessions were gained apart from just some subtle changes in tone? The way they've just treated Zelensky hardly shows a material change of attitude, does it?I agree. How about the diplomacy though?
The leader of one of our biggest allies, oh yeah let’s piss him off and fall out with them. What a clueless thing to sayThe UK was humiliated. Offering that c**t a state visit and reading to him. Embarrassing.
fuck me you shouldn’t have said that, prepare yourself for the deluded comments from the sbt ‘experts’I quite like Trump
The avenues to at least some of Starmer's desired outcomes are still open thanks to his genuflecting. The avenues to Zelensky's now appear very much closed.What actual material concessions were gained apart from just some subtle changes in tone? The way they've just treated Zelensky hardly shows a material change of attitude, does it?
Of course it was and Zelensky went knowing this.Hodges saying this looked pre-planned.
With what? You really need to live in the real world.
That is not realisticThat’s the thing, you can disagree with the ways and means of it… what is a viable alternative to the Trump/Vance view of the situation?
Does Ukraine have the resources to oust Russia? No.
Does the west have the political will to intervene on Ukraine’s behalf to oust Russia? Also, no.
There’s not even a plan or defined victory conditions so the expectation atm is to just fund the status quo until the Russian regime collapses, presumably.
Did I?
I’ve never been more angryWhat I've always thought. Trump is an ignorant, obnoxious c**t! How could he speak in public like that, to a visiting head of state? Disgusting behaviour.
The avenues to at least some of Starmer's desired outcomes are still open thanks to his genuflecting. The avenues to Zelensky's now appear very much closed.
Zelensky's willingness to stand up for himself and his country in the face of a bully is admirable. It's also proved to be completely futile and has clearly damaged his country's diplomatic fortunes. I genuinely don't know which holds most value in this Trump era.
Fuck. Right. Off.
That is not realistic
After watching that??I quite like Trump
Embarrassing language used by the representative of this forum to the club, it’s Friday night have a few beers and relax instead of rambling on hereI’ve never been more angry
They are a couple of cunts absolute cunts
Vance jumping in to say have you ever said thank you
Does he think he’s in primary school - what a c**t
Mucca we are at fuck them arent we?That’s the thing, you can disagree with the ways and means of it… what is a viable alternative to the Trump/Vance view of the situation?
Does Ukraine have the resources to oust Russia? No.
Does the west have the political will to intervene on Ukraine’s behalf to oust Russia? Also, no.
There’s not even a plan or defined victory conditions so the expectation atm is to just fund the status quo until the Russian regime collapses, presumably.
You upset bu a swear word ?? Grow upEmbarrassing language used by the representative of this forum to the club, it’s Friday night have a few beers and relax instead of rambling on here
Fair enough, can't see a single redeeming feature personallyI quite like Trump
I feel like Ukraine need to just do what they can for all of us much like we did in the Second World War when other countries were bending over backwardsThat is not realistic
I haven’t said my opinion on it so stop waffling complete shiteThbakfully I don’t have to represent you or others who think what you’ve just witnessed is in any way acceptable
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