Trump is my favourite comedian of the year already (9 Viewers)

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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So no argument then. Thanks for clearing up.
Steve put some decent points forward and I know inflation beena big issue.

You literally just played an ignorant performance about Biden, when the whole world is laughing at him. It's a shame because in his younger days he was a decent politician but this is all he'll be remembered for.

You pull a blunder and try and insinuate America isn't worse under him, and less than an hour later he's stepped down because he isn't fit to govern. Fucking hell mate. Just take the L. It's embarrasing.
 

clint van damme

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You literally just played an ignorant performance about Biden, when the whole world is laughing at him. It's a shame because in his younger days he was a decent politician but this is all he'll be remembered for.

You pull a blunder and try and insinuate America isn't worse under him, and less than an hour later he's stepped down because he isn't fit to govern. Fucking hell mate. Just take the L. It's embarrasing.

You're conflating 2 things, should Biden go, yes, I said so after the debate debacle.
But he's been president for almost 4 years, I was asking by what metrics do people judge his tenure a failure?
One person gave a constructive answer.

And it's not really a loss if you look at everything I've posted in the past about Biden though I admit I'd rather have anyone than the felon and sex offender but obviously some people are comfortable with that.
 

SkyBlueDom26

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You're conflating 2 things, should Biden go, yes, I said so after the debate debacle.
But he's been president for almost 4 years, I was asking by what metrics do people judge his tenure a failure?
One person gave a constructive answer.

And it's not really a loss if you look at everything I've posted in the past about Biden though I admit I'd rather have anyone than the felon and sex offender but obviously some people are comfortable with that.
have you not seen the creepy Biden videos? Sniffing people and that
 

clint van damme

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no, in the polling that has been done there's enough undecided voters up for grabs and outside of his base his poll support is pretty soft.

3 months is a long time

Well anything can happen in 3 months, agreed.
And Trump has got his own cognitive issues, just nowhere near as bad as Bidens, but there may be more focus on them now but if I had to call it I'd say Trump wins.
 

David O'Day

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Well anything can happen in 3 months, agreed.
And Trump has got his own cognitive issues, just nowhere near as bad as Bidens, but there may be more focus on them now but if I had to call it I'd say Trump wins.
Yeah he's slight favourite but those people who don't really want to vote for a convicted felon now have someone other than an ever increasingly senile Biden to vote for instead.
 

Diogenes

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I think he's nailed on, has been since the debate debacle.

Don't agree with this.

You can't underestimate the hatred of trump as a uniter, regardless of whoever is on the Dem ticket. You could put Pol Pot in for the Democrats and they would vote for him.

Republicans are swanning round acting like it's in the bag and thats really dangerous. On the surface you would say the democrats are toast but there's a long way to go and anything could happen yet.
I wouldn't discount another attempt on Trumps life at this point.

Though if you were a prospective candidate you would surely be looking at 2028 and waiting until this shitshow blows over rather than tying yourself to what looks like it's going to be a big defeat.
 

David O'Day

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Don't agree with this.

You can't underestimate the hatred of trump as a uniter, regardless of whoever is on the Dem ticket. You could put Pol Pot in for the Democrats and they would vote for him.

Republicans are swanning round acting like it's in the bag and thats really dangerous. On the surface you would say the democrats are toast but there's a long way to go and anything could happen yet.
I wouldn't discount another attempt on Trumps life at this point.

Though if you were a prospective candidate you would surely be looking at 2028 and waiting until this shitshow blows over rather than tying yourself to what looks like it's going to be a big defeat.
This is my point, Trump is really unpopular and now there will be someone people can vote for that isn't Biden.
 

clint van damme

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Think the yanks would have a seriously hard time voting in a mixed race female as president ..maybe I'm wrong

They did vote in a black president, though I think there's been a shift in attitudes recently.
Only one person's opinion but my daughter says she thinks its got more racist in the time she's been working there.
 

Evo1883

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They did vote in a black president, though I think there's been a shift in attitudes recently.
Only one person's opinion but my daughter says she thinks its got more racist in the time she's been working there.

I feel like hillary losing to trump shows they have an issue with a female president .. but again I could be wrong
 

clint van damme

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I feel like hillary losing to trump shows they have an issue with a female president .. but again I could be wrong

I've said it on here before but I was out there in 2017 and I was shocked by the hatred for Hilary.
Spoke to life long Democrat voters who had voted Trump because they hated her that much.

No one said its was down to gender but then again, I don't suppose they would.
Personally I get why people wouldn't vote for her but I don't get why Democrats would vote Trump instead.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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They did vote in a black president, though I think there's been a shift in attitudes recently.
Only one person's opinion but my daughter says she thinks its got more racist in the time she's been working there.

The 'other way' as well.

My company had been laying people off for economic reasons, a few black employees have pulled the race card and pressed charges with absolutely no genuine substance.

We're in dangerous times. Sadly the left is massively propping this all up. America is a mess though, in general.
 

SBAndy

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They did vote in a black president, though I think there's been a shift in attitudes recently.
Only one person's opinion but my daughter says she thinks it’s got more racist in the time she's been working there.

Would you say it’s likely that those who were overtly racist would probably be voting for Trump anyway at this point? Or is there a possibility that Harris ends up mobilising yet more Trump support?
 

SIR ERNIE

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US global reputation/decline under Biden:

National debt of $35 trillion and out of control, +35% since 2020, no credible plan for management of debt resulting in downgrade of US credit rating in 2023.

Reduced global importance of USD, rise of BRICS and accelerating de-dollarisation.

Chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan debacle was a national humiliation and seen as confirmation of weak leadership.

Open southern border accelerating massive fentanyl epidemic est cost to economy > $1.5 trillion.

US politics, especially leadership, widely seen as a global laughing stock.
 

David O'Day

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US global reputation/decline under Biden:

National debt of $35 trillion and out of control, +35% since 2020, no credible plan for management of debt resulting in downgrade of US credit rating in 2023.

Reduced global importance of USD, rise of BRICS and accelerating de-dollarisation.

Chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan debacle was a national humiliation and seen as confirmation of weak leadership.

Open southern border accelerating massive fentanyl epidemic est cost to economy > $1.5 trillion.

US politics, especially leadership, widely seen as a global laughing stock.
Still talking bollocks Ernie?
 

clint van damme

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Would you say it’s likely that those who were overtly racist would probably be voting for Trump anyway at this point? Or is there a possibility that Harris ends up mobilising yet more Trump support?

No idea but it's a good question.
I just can't see beyond a Trump win though at this point
 

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