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[shmmeee]

No, It’s great that GDP has been higher in the short term and that unemployment has remained low. It’s just the potential ‘cost’ of this

My point has always been that if you have to print more to achieve this, it debases the currency and can cause inflation. Ultimately this costs everyone and usually the poorest the most (inflation and/or debasing a currency is probably the least progressive form of ‘taxation’)

As I was saying to shmmeee, you can’t knock US recent economic performance, it’s been head and shoulders the strongest around. However, gdp is now slowing a bit and unemployment is creeping up, so has the last three years been a short term shot in the arm or a more longer term structural improvement. Only time will tell

ps still better than trump who probably would’ve borrowed/printed more to cut taxes for the richest.

I think there’s two separate economic interventions here. The stimulus Trump and Biden put in was a short term shot in the arm and even its inflationary effect is hard to disentangle from general Covid and Ukraine based inflation.

But that’s just basic emergency economics IMO. What’s impressed me economically about Biden is he’s done what the rust belt have been claiming they want for decades. Manufacturing brought back, proper investment in supply chains for key industries that were rapidly heading to Asia, wage growth for those at the bottom. Thats the stuff that gives me confidence in the US going forwards.

 

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[Sick Boy]

The banter around these parts ain't what it used to be. People used to put some work into it rather than just quoting from righty incel types they've met on the dark web.

This is why multiple accounts should always be allowed.

 

[fernandopartridge]

I feel like hillary losing to trump shows they have an issue with a female president .. but again I could be wrong

Probably more an issue with Clinton herself

 

[fernandopartridge]

The 'other way' as well.

My company had been laying people off for economic reasons, a few black employees have pulled the race card and pressed charges with absolutely no genuine substance.

We're in dangerous times. Sadly the left is massively propping this all up. America is a mess though, in general.

Were you on the panel of people deciding which posts would be made redundant?

 

[fernandopartridge]

US global reputation/decline under Biden:

National debt of $35 trillion and out of control, +35% since 2020, no credible plan for management of debt resulting in downgrade of US credit rating in 2023.

Reduced global importance of USD, rise of BRICS and accelerating de-dollarisation.

Chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan debacle was a national humiliation and seen as confirmation of weak leadership.

Open southern border accelerating massive fentanyl epidemic est cost to economy > $1.5 trillion.

US politics, especially leadership, widely seen as a global laughing stock.

The USA is not a household, its national debt is not really that relevant.

 

[shmmeee]

The USA is not a household, its national debt is not really that relevant.

You can watch thirty year old Simpsons episodes with references to Republicans making the exactly same cataclysmic predictions about the US debt. Proper chicken little stuff.

 

[fernandopartridge]

You can watch thirty year old Simpsons episodes with references to Republicans making the exactly same cataclysmic predictions about the US debt. Proper chicken little stuff.

Logically over time it can only ever go up especially given the type of institution that buys government 'debt'

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

The 'other way' as well.

My company had been laying people off for economic reasons, a few black employees have pulled the race card and pressed charges with absolutely no genuine substance.

We're in dangerous times. Sadly the left is massively propping this all up. America is a mess though, in general.

The left or at least what would be considered left in the UK have no real power anywhere except Scotland and Wales

 

[Como]

There is a story going around that after Old Joe was forced out he took his ultimate revenge and nominated Kamala.

Makes sense.

 

[Flying Fokker]

There is a story going around that after Old Joe was forced out he took his ultimate revenge and nominated Kamala.

Makes sense.

To you?

 

[David O'Day]

There is a story going around that after Old Joe was forced out he took his ultimate revenge and nominated Kamala.

Makes sense.

Where you gonna go when Trump kicks all the immigrants out?

 

[skybluetony176]

I tell you what, if she can pull a win off there’s going to be some exploding heads in the US. Especially Trump’s. He couldn’t accept that another aging wealthy white man could beat him, he’s never going to accept a black woman could.

Let’s face it, she has a mountain to climb given how late the democrats have waited to sort this out but is she wins 2020’s response will look like a walk in the park. At least the hand over of power should run smoothly but if anyone is any doubt about how thin skinned Trump is I suspect you’ll have trouble denying it any longer.

 

[Otis]

Senator Elizabeth Warren has said "Joe Biden thinks about our nation and what is best for America and he showed us that yesterday with his actions."

Forget about the last bit, that's not what I wanted to focus on.

Just wondering, if the shoe was on the other foot, do you think anyone at all could ever talk into Donald Trump into standing down?

 

[Otis]

Also,

Is it just me, or does that kind of read that it was a failure because the bullet missed the target?

 

[tisza]

I tell you what, if she can pull a win off there’s going to be some exploding heads in the US. Especially Trump’s. He couldn’t accept that another aging wealthy white man could beat him, he’s never going to accept a black woman could.

Let’s face it, she has a mountain to climb given how late the democrats have waited to sort this out but is she wins 2020’s response will look like a walk in the park. At least the hand over of power should run smoothly but if anyone is any doubt about how thin skinned Trump is I suspect you’ll have trouble denying it any longer.

Genuinely fascinated about how Trump will handle any Presidential debate they might have. That could be a banana skin - not so much the content but the behaviour.

 

[David O'Day]

Genuinely fascinated about how Trump will handle any Presidential debate they might have. That could be a banana skin - not so much the content but the behaviour.

Be interesting now he is the old and senile one

 

[Otis]

Genuinely fascinated about how Trump will handle any Presidential debate they might have. That could be a banana skin - not so much the content but the behaviour.

Yeah, fair point.

Not sure he can approach Harris in the same way as Biden.

He was pretty savage with Hilary Clinton though wasn't he?

 

[David O'Day]

Yeah, fair point.

Not sure he can approach Harris in the same way as Biden.

He was pretty savage with Hilary Clinton though wasn't he?

He was almost 8 years younger, a lot less senile and anyway Harris is a sharper debater than Clinton was.

 

[Otis]

He was almost 8 years younger, a lot less senile and anyway Harris is a sharper debater than Clinton was.

I really hope he stumbles. That's not wishing ill upon him, if he is going senile or anything. Wouldn't wish that on anyone. I am just talking about the fact that he talks so much nonsense all too often anyway and makes ludicrous statements.

I'm sure he's going to come out with some very weird and nonsensical stuff before the election.

It could sway it.

 

[CCFCSteve]

I really hope he stumbles. That's not wishing ill upon him, if he is going senile or anything. Wouldn't wish that on anyone. I am just talking about the fact that he talks so much nonsense all too often anyway and makes ludicrous statements.

I'm sure he's going to come out with some very weird and nonsensical stuff before the election.

It could sway it.

You’d hope that she’d be in a position to at least call him out on any BS. Biden was just nowhere near sharp enough to do it

I wonder if Trump will even agree to a debate though

 

[Deleted member 9744]

It really would be bizarre for any woman or person of colour to vote Trump now. Could this be the game changer? I hope so but fear the US is too far gone. The anti abortion, gun owning faction is too big.

 

[Nuskyblue]

It really would be bizarre for any woman or person of colour to vote Trump now. Could this be the game changer? I hope so but fear the US is too far gone. The anti abortion, gun owning faction is too big.

Bit of a stretch that.

To vote for someone based purely on their sex or race is mental.

 

[Sick Boy]

Kamala Harris is a fucking idiot, and let's face it, Trump is far more aligned with the black community then you think. Convicted criminal, multiple baby mama's, involved with gun violence, Etc.

Wow.

 

[David O'Day]

Wow.

Friend of banned racist Greggs

Needs banning himself

 

[Terry_dactyl]

Kamala Harris is a fucking idiot, and let's face it, Trump is far more aligned with the black community then you think. Convicted criminal, multiple baby mama's, involved with gun violence, Etc.

Wtf is this?

 

[Otis]

Wtf is this?

I took it as sarcasm.

 

[clint van damme]

Wow.

Was just a joke wasn't it?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Kamala Harris is a fucking idiot, and let's face it, Trump is far more aligned with the black community then you think. Convicted criminal, multiple baby mama's, involved with gun violence, Etc.

I mean this is just a blatantly racist comment

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Was just a joke wasn't it?

That doesn’t make it ok.

 

[Marty]

I mean this is just a blatantly racist comment

I was just responding to a stupid post with an equally stupid post. The person I responded too suggested that people would only vote for Kamala Harris due to her being black and a woman.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I was just responding to a stupid post with an equally stupid post. The person I responded too suggested that people would only vote for Kamala Harris due to her being black and a woman.

Not quite, he said people of certain demographics wouldn’t vote for Trump.

 

[Deleted member 9744]

I was just responding to a stupid post with an equally stupid post. The person I responded too suggested that people would only vote for Kamala Harris due to her being black and a woman.

No i didn't.

I suggested that because of Trump's open misogyny and other comments that could clearly be seen to be racist about it would be bizarre for women and people of colour to vote for him.

 

[Sick Boy]

It really would be bizarre for any woman or person of colour to vote Trump now. Could this be the game changer? I hope so but fear the US is too far gone. The anti abortion, gun owning faction is too big.

She’s got a better chance of beating Old Donald than Biden had.

 

[Marty]

No i didn't.

I suggested that because of Trump's open misogyny and other comments that could clearly be seen to be racist about it would be bizarre for women and people of colour to vote for him.

Why? Because he's now running against a black women?

Your exact word were, "It really would be bizarre for any woman or person of colour to vote Trump now." So why wouldn't it be an issue if he was running against Biden?

I think we'll have to agree to disagree, quite frankly I'm not that interested in American politics.

 

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

He was almost 8 years younger, a lot less senile and anyway Harris is a sharper debater than Clinton was.

I don't think he's got the same level of ammunition against Harris as there was against Clinton. But while you also say that Clinton's defeat in 2016 was more about her, i am still not sure certain parts of the US would contemplate voting in a black woman.