Brighton Sky Blue
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I’ll ask the same about what Trump did as President the last time
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I’ll ask the same about what Trump did as President the last time
Sky Blue Pete
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Love this
People complain as vice president that you don’t get to do anything meaningful and then ……. This vice president hasn’t done anything well no shit Sherlock it’s a vanity role
Brighton Sky Blue
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Well, Trump imploded. Interesting to see what effect if any this has
Yeah, I’ve watched about half, Trump really struggles to maintain control/focus…just gets involved in rants. I didn’t agree with how Harris became candidate but she’s performed pretty well so far
duffer
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Or you could just ask the much more important question, what will the rambling orange lunatic do if he gets into power again?
He's literally banging on about immigrants eating people's cats and crying about being treated unfairly in the last election because enough people didn't vote for him.
He's a dangerous idiot, in it purely for himself - how much evidence does anyone need to see that.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Debates haven’t mattered much in the past. This one might be different given how bad the performance was but I think there are very few genuine undecided voters and even fewer who were already voting Trump who will suddenly change their mind.
Yeah, as you say, pretty much everyone’s probably picked their team already. Those swing states will come down to small numbers though so the debate performances could have an impact
But we do it here all the time!🫣
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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US presidential debate updates: Trump and Harris attend same 9/11 memorial after fierce debate
Follow live as BBC journalists unpack US and global reaction, debunk key claims and analyse the impact of Tuesday's debate.
www.bbc.co.uk
Taylor Swift endorses Kamala Harris for president in post signed 'Childless Cat Lady'
The singer's choice of words nodded to comments made by Trump's running mate JD Vance.
www.bbc.co.uk
Nearly every article from the BBC about Harris reads as if they are endorsing her as well. It has been like it ever since Biden dissapeared. It's weird, but they are obviously worried Trump can win. It will be close, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it backfire to be honest.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Because anyone with a brain can see how utterly terrible Trump being back in would be.US presidential debate updates: Trump and Harris attend same 9/11 memorial after fierce debate
Follow live as BBC journalists unpack US and global reaction, debunk key claims and analyse the impact of Tuesday's debate.www.bbc.co.uk
Taylor Swift endorses Kamala Harris for president in post signed 'Childless Cat Lady'
The singer's choice of words nodded to comments made by Trump's running mate JD Vance.www.bbc.co.uk
Nearly every article from the BBC about Harris reads as if they are endorsing her as well. It has been like it ever since Biden dissapeared. It's weird, but they are obviously worried Trump can win. It will be close, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it backfire to be honest.
He's pretty much said he would turn it into a dictatorship where people have to swear loyalty to him, not the country. Can you think of any other examples from history where that happened....
Brighton Sky Blue
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That isn’t how I read the BBC analysis of the debate-if anything, it pointed out Harris’ flaws as a candidate which Trump didn’t focus on because he got triggered early on.US presidential debate updates: Trump and Harris attend same 9/11 memorial after fierce debate
Follow live as BBC journalists unpack US and global reaction, debunk key claims and analyse the impact of Tuesday's debate.www.bbc.co.uk
Taylor Swift endorses Kamala Harris for president in post signed 'Childless Cat Lady'
The singer's choice of words nodded to comments made by Trump's running mate JD Vance.www.bbc.co.uk
Nearly every article from the BBC about Harris reads as if they are endorsing her as well. It has been like it ever since Biden dissapeared. It's weird, but they are obviously worried Trump can win. It will be close, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it backfire to be honest.
Sky Blue Pete
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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That's not the point.
If we do democracy based on what one set of people think then it becomes very dangerous. It doesn't matter if Trump is a clown or not.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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There are multiple snippets in there leaning towards Harris. Combine that with nearly every single article about her being in a positive light. It is a bit questionable and very often reads as if it is the BBC's preferred candidate that they are endorsing.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Every reporter has an opinion, but if you watch the debate, by any measure Trump did very badly. At some point it can’t be bias to just directly quote a man saying it’s his right to interfere with elections, or falsely stating that immigrants are eating pets.
If he has a problem with it, maybe he shouldn’t go round saying things like that in the first place.
Houchens Head
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Let's face it. Trump is a dangerous twat!
David O'Day
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pretty much this, all anyone needs to do is watch the debate to see how very, very badly trump did
next they'll be telling us that all eyes have a "left leaning bias"
Or vice -versa?
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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This isn't confined to the debate. It has been happening ever since Biden got lost and Harris appeared at the front.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Well that's what Trump is planning if he wins. He is going after anyone not aligned or loyal to him. Lawyers, judges, officials, advisors, civil servants. He will start imprisoning people for disagreeing with him, and the Supreme Court have basically said he can. In fact he could effectively have any opposition murdered and because he's president he's immune.
If you don't realise just how bad and dangerous a second Trump term would be for democracy then I can't help you.
Brighton Sky Blue
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If your complaint is Trump and Vance being quoted as saying batshit crazy things on the campaign trail I can’t help you. Harris’ shortcomings as a candidate aren’t being excluded from these articles.
Not that it matters either way in swaying opinion, I think the vast majority of US voters have been set on their choice for a long time.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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'Democracy only works when you vote the way I want you to'.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Nope. Please read what I've written and try again.
I don't have an issue with calling Trump out on his bullshit. I have an issue with the media fan-girling Harris and endorsing her as if she was their preferred candidate, which is what has been happening.
Como
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Did anyone else watch the debate?
Overall I found it depressing but then thought well what did you expect?
The only thing that really surprised me was Kam's position on Guns, she said she had one, Timmy had one and no one was coming for your Gun. Not qualified, sounded like something straight out of the NRA. I wonder how that will go down.
Anyway for those who missed it.
Overall I found it depressing but then thought well what did you expect?
The only thing that really surprised me was Kam's position on Guns, she said she had one, Timmy had one and no one was coming for your Gun. Not qualified, sounded like something straight out of the NRA. I wonder how that will go down.
Anyway for those who missed it.
Brighton Sky Blue
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The BBC articles I’ve read haven’t been guilty of that in my view. There is one today in the Evening Standard which most certainly is however, and I’m surprised you haven’t pointed it out already.
David O'Day
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They are eating the dogs, they are eating the cats is the maddest shit ever.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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And that definitely sounds like something Trump would say.
Brighton Sky Blue
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And he will still draw at least 45% of the vote.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Bloody immigrants. Coming over here, eating our pets...
David O'Day
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Trumps gone off the deep end today, trying to squirm out of any further debates and claiming he won "by a lot".
If he fannies out that'll be him done
If he fannies out that'll be him done
duffer
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I trust then, that you're as critical regarding how outlets like Fox News (with an actual direct influence on U.S. voters), pander endlessly to Trump's worst conspiracy theories?
In the meantime, of course, the biggest threats to democracy are the people who try to subvert it directly, by say, knowingly lying, pressuring public officials to change ballot results, or encouraging an actual insurrection against the legitimate transfer of power.
What the BBC says, or how it says it, is pretty small beans compared to that.
Brighton Sky Blue
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I would say actively trying to manipulate election results is anti-democracy, but each to his own. He’s lucky to even be allowed to run.
David O'Day
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The thing is this BBC piece is actually pretty fair and provable by video:
Who won the debate? Harris goads Trump into flustered performance
Trump couldn't resist Harris's personal digs at the debate which threw him off message, writes Anthony Zurcher.
www.bbc.co.uk
We have had that to be fair,poaching, royal swan's etc!