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[Brighton Sky Blue]

It’s funny you seem perplexed Trump won the election. The like of self awareness is astonishing

I’m not perplexed that he won. Dismayed yes, but think I understand why.

Not for the reasons Bill Maher or Piers Morgan claim he did either. Donald Trump is the only president in the history of the office to try and overturn an election, and he did so through violent as well as non violent means. Even if you fully agree with his politics, you can’t seriously argue that he should have been allowed to run again.

He should be in prison.

 

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[tisza]

With his pardon of son Hunter, Joe Biden delivers a heartfelt hypocrisy

The president and supporters argue Hunter Biden would never have been charged were it not for his name – and any father might have done the same. But this exercise of power also looks like a validation of Donald Trump

www.theguardian.com

I am not surprised at all that Hunter has been pardoned. No one I know was expecting him to spend a day in jail.

Just to be clear he did not pardon him for the 2 crimes he was awaiting sentencing on, he pardoned him for everything.

Pardoned for those crimes he's pled guilty to. He better not be hiding anything else. Sure Trump's prosecutors will be seeing what else they can find

 

[Como]

Pardoned for those crimes he's pled guilty to. He better not be hiding anything else. Sure Trump's prosecutors will be seeing what else they can find

No he was pardoned for everything between the dates.

Rep. Greg Stanton (D., Ariz.) said, “I respect President Biden, but I think he got this one wrong. This wasn’t a politically motivated prosecution. Hunter committed felonies, and was convicted by a jury of his peers.

 

[duffer]

C'mon @Como and @SIR ERNIE, dead simple question, are you against presidential pardons or not?

I'd hate for you to be wrongly thought of as hypocrites. Gosh would that be embarrassing.

Set the record straight, eh. It's a really easy question...

 

[Como]

Against

 

[Grendel]

C'mon @Como and @SIR ERNIE, dead simple question, are you against presidential pardons or not?

I'd hate for you to be wrongly thought of as hypocrites. Gosh would that be embarrassing.

Set the record straight, eh. It's a really easy question...

If you defend the Biden decision it’s hypocrisy regardless.

 

[duffer]

Against

Excellent. So you'll clearly be against Trump pardoning people for far worse gun offences and corruption than Hunter Biden has committed then, presumably?

(There's a handy list here, if you've forgotten some of them...)

Trump pardons Steve Bannon along with dozens of others in final hours in office

Bannon, Trump's former chief strategist, was charged with defrauding hundreds of thousands of donors to build a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Grendel]

Excellent. So you'll clearly be against Trump pardoning people for far worse gun offences and corruption than Hunter Biden has committed then, presumably?

(There's a handy list here, if you've forgotten some of them...)

Trump pardons Steve Bannon along with dozens of others in final hours in office

Bannon, Trump's former chief strategist, was charged with defrauding hundreds of thousands of donors to build a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border.

www.nbcnews.com

I think the point has flown over your head

 

[Otis]

Depends on who's perspective you see it from I suppose.

Yeah. If you're a god, you have a little bit of a giggle over it.

Probably good for hardware stores too.

 

[tisza]

No he was pardoned for everything between the dates.

Rep. Greg Stanton (D., Ariz.) said, “I respect President Biden, but I think he got this one wrong. This wasn’t a politically motivated prosecution. Hunter committed felonies, and was convicted by a jury of his peers.

Only federal crimes.

 

[Como]

Only federal crimes.

Well yes that is what a President can do.

 

[Como]

For those offenses against the United States which he has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 1, 2014 through December 1, 2024, including but not limited to all offenses charged or prosecuted (including any that have resulted in convictions) by Special Counsel David C. Weiss in Docket No. 1:23-cr-00061-MN in the United States District Court for the District of Delaware and Docket No. 2:23-CR-00599-MCS-1 in the United States District Court for the Central District of California.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

For those offenses against the United States which he has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 1, 2014 through December 1, 2024, including but not limited to all offenses charged or prosecuted (including any that have resulted in convictions) by Special Counsel David C. Weiss in Docket No. 1:23-cr-00061-MN in the United States District Court for the District of Delaware and Docket No. 2:23-CR-00599-MCS-1 in the United States District Court for the Central District of California.

Getting upset about this is a bit ironic given that an actual convict will be in office in a few months.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Presidential pardons are fine so long as there is no conflict of interests so friends or family would be off limits
It is just bizarre in this day and age that it means the president and their family are above the law

Why?

It’s almost as bizarre as having gun laws for sun machine guns that were put in place when people had simple pistols or rifles

Much like the assisted dying debate or the death penalty we need grown up conversations to agree

 

[SBT]

Presidential pardons are fine so long as there is no conflict of interests so friends or family would be off limits

It’s a ridiculous legal anachronism that no civilised country should allow.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It’s a ridiculous legal anachronism that no civilised country should allow.

Do we still have royal pardons in this country? Genuinely don’t know.

 

[SBT]

Do we still have royal pardons in this country? Genuinely don’t know.

Quite possibly - it would obviously be an outrage if they were used today.

 

[Grendel]

Presidential pardons are fine so long as there is no conflict of interests so friends or family would be off limits

Not really - its the type of thing you would get in a Banana republic or a dictatorship

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Not really - its the type of thing you would get in a Banana republic or a dictatorship

Yep best case it wouldn’t be a thing at all

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Not really - its the type of thing you would get in a Banana republic or a dictatorship

A dictatorship is what they will soon have in all but name. It’s hard to understate just how dangerous it is

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

A dictatorship is what they will soon have in all but name. It’s hard to understate just how dangerous it is

I’m sure you’re wrong I read on x that we completely misunderstand Mr Trump

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I’m sure you’re wrong I read on x that we completely misunderstand Mr Trump

Even if he is benevolent, the far right will control the SC, both sections of Congress and the presidency. Democrats need to win quite a few races in 2026 to wrest some control back.

 

[Marty]

Yeah. If you're a god, you have a little bit of a giggle over it.

Probably good for hardware stores too.

I'm sure the Ukrainians would be devastated if an earthquake ripped through central Moscow.

 

[Sick Boy]

Both Biden and Trump are a disgrace. What sort of democratic country allows something like that to happen?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Both Biden and Trump are a disgrace. What sort of democratic country allows something like that to happen?

What sort of country allows people to buy guns before they can buy alcohol

 

[Sick Boy]

What sort of country allows people to buy guns before they can buy alcohol

I don’t disagree.

 

[MalcSB]

Excellent. So you'll clearly be against Trump pardoning people for far worse gun offences and corruption than Hunter Biden has committed then, presumably?

(There's a handy list here, if you've forgotten some of them...)

Trump pardons Steve Bannon along with dozens of others in final hours in office

Bannon, Trump's former chief strategist, was charged with defrauding hundreds of thousands of donors to build a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border.

www.nbcnews.com

Trump will be pardoning himself soon enough. His reaction to Boden is faux outrage and hypocrisy.

How on earth did America get a man on the moon. They are as thick as pigshit based on their electoral choices.

 

[MalcSB]

What sort of country allows people to buy guns before they can buy alcohol

America is a basket case.

 

[Como]

At least we know if you lie on your Gun application you will be pardoned.

Not sure how the Dems will now play this.

BTW to buy a 6 pack of shandly your Drivers License will be swiped, to vote not needed as that would be racist.

 

[MalcSB]

At least we know if you lie on your Gun application you will be pardoned.

Not sure how the Dems will now play this.

BTW to buy a 6 pack of shandly your Drivers License will be swiped, to vote not needed as that would be racist.

Well, you can lie on your cv and still end up as Chancellor here.

 

[MalcSB]

At least we know if you lie on your Gun application you will be pardoned.

Not sure how the Dems will now play this.

BTW to buy a 6 pack of shandly your Drivers License will be swiped, to vote not needed as that would be racist.

Surely the primary reason to swipe for voting would be age verification. That’s entirely reasonable.

Trying to argue it would be racist is over sensitive woke bollocks. Americans really are stupid.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Against

Well you're going to have a lot to complain about in a month or two. Not counting the pardons Trump gave in his first term.

I fundamentally disagree with Biden's decision, but I think he was caught between a rock and a hard place. I think he could see that his son could be at the mercy of Trump and his cronies in the judicial system and get absolutely shanked, so wanted to protect his son from what would likely be disproportionate punishment.

However, he does deserve some punishment and the decision to pardon him has basically just given Trump open season to do the same, but on a far larger scale, and every time just shout 'Biden'.

It was a lesser of two evils and I think he's chosen the wrong one because his desire to protect his son has come before the danger he has put the whole country in by doing so.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

At least we know if you lie on your Gun application you will be pardoned.

Not sure how the Dems will now play this.

BTW to buy a 6 pack of shandly your Drivers License will be swiped, to vote not needed as that would be racist.

To vote not needed because voter fraud is essentially non existent.

 

[The Philosopher]

Well you're going to have a lot to complain about in a month or two. Not counting the pardons Trump gave in his first term.

I fundamentally disagree with Biden's decision, but I think he was caught between a rock and a hard place. I think he could see that his son could be at the mercy of Trump and his cronies in the judicial system and get absolutely shanked, so wanted to protect his son from what would likely be disproportionate punishment.

However, he does deserve some punishment and the decision to pardon him has basically just given Trump open season to do the same, but on a far larger scale, and every time just shout 'Biden'.

It was a lesser of two evils and I think he's chosen the wrong one because his desire to protect his son has come before the danger he has put the whole country in by doing so.

“Deserves some punishment”.

Not necessarily.

Deserves thorough, open, transparent investigation.

If there’s only minor stuff - that’s that.

But come on, even the most deranged Democrat apologists on here know that there’s some seriously dodgy stuff that’d be uncovered.

Their response: “dribble dribble BuT TrUMp…”

Moonbats.

 

[The Philosopher]

To vote not needed because voter fraud is essentially non existent.

Said no one in Tower Hamlets, ever.