If anybody cares, and I seriously doubt they do, here are my thoughts on the Trust's stance.
"Something has to change" http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/news-opinion/coventry-city-owners-sisu-sell-8566206
don't be so sensitiveIf anybody cares, and I seriously doubt they do, here are my thoughts on the Trust's stance.
"Something has to change" http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/news-opinion/coventry-city-owners-sisu-sell-8566206
"..People have already voted with their feet – 7,606 against Rochdale on Saturday was the lowest Saturday home crowd since 1962. Whether or not the owners leave, the fans are leaving the club..."
And that has hit the nail on its head.
don't be so sensitive
if you don't stick your head above the parapet then people will have nothing to shoot at. !!Ha. Sorry. Just not a big fan of writing "opinion" pieces!
We produce stories, they get discussed on here. Win-Win?
Extracts from an earlier meeting at Ryton
SW: Excuse me Joy, have you seen the latest press release from the Sky Blue Trust?
JS: Go on...
SW: They did a poll... and I'm afraid it's bad news.
JS: How bad?
SW: They said.... and they don't mean you personally... but SISU......
JS: Just tell me straight... I can take it.
SW: Well they said you have to go.
JS:Go where?
SW: You know.... go. Leave.
JS (on phone): Tim.. you better get over here and quick.
30 mins later...
JS: Where the fuck have you been?
TF: I was laying a brick.
JS: At the new stadium?
TF: Of course not... just had a bad Vindaloo last night. I'd leave it 10 before you go in there Steve.
JS: Anyway... Steve - tell him what you told me.
SW: The Trust have done a poll... they said we have to go.
TF: Go where?
SW: Away
TF: Are they thick? We're away at Prestatyn on Saturday.
SW: No away from the club... forever.
TF: I see... and when we go did they say who was going to come in instead? Has Hoffman managed to scrape together a fiver?
SW: They didn't say anything about that.
JS: Well Tim... what are we going to do?
TF: Fuck em. They make the Lib Dems look popular.
JS: So your plan is to do nothing?
TF: Yep.
JS: Shall we try and sue them?
SW: We could try and talk to them
TF: Settle down Steve.. just you concentrate on getting some kids for Elvis to ruin. Let me handle this.
JS: So what are we going to do?
TF: Absolutely fuck all.
SW: But what if they do another poll?
TF: Steve.. I've got this. Trust me.
TF goes to leave the room
JS: Where are you going?
TF: I'm going to make some shit up for Sandra. She's been hassling me for info on this new stadium.
I got one of the work experience lads to knock up a new picture on Photoshop. It's looks the bollocks.
Not exactly fucking Pinter are you?
we all get the chance to vote out the council (though remember the vote was unanimous) we don't get the chance to get rid of sisu, other than to vote with our feet with the forlorn hope it will encourage a more speedy departure.
dont worry he doesn't believe what he is saying, he's just trolling
Pinter is a bit too serious.... I prefer upbeat.
Thats a "story" is it? Great that the Telegraph is out there doing real investigative journalism and not just lazily reprinting Told You So press releases from the discredited Sky Blues Trust.
No I am making the point you ignore in your post above
At council elections people hardly vote - only 35% - this is I suggest due to the fact people know nothing will change. They are stuck and have no voice. This is not indicative of supporting the status quo.
So in the participation of the poll is it apathy or supporting the status quo?
Yep, it's a story. In my professional opinion.
Can't all be Pulitzer Prize winners. I wrote one about a burger van catching fire in Southam yesterday...
What a surprise, I think we all understand that for a newspaper to exist it needs to draw traffic to it's ads and understand that (despite quite how ridiculous and annoying the cet site is with it's intrusive ads) but that simply isn't the case with a normal poster giving their views. I stand by what I wrote and no I don't think it should apply to newspapers and yes before you ask that includes Les Reid and the Observer.
The forum just couldn't exist if we all as arrogant as to think our views were so important that we could send people to another site to read them.
You know full well that the respondents to the SBT poll are enough to be very representative and if anything the ones that didn't vote due to having given up on this whole mess are even more likely to chose sisu out than the ones who are still engaged.
Not sure that's the case. Given the options were sack everyone or sell up it's hard to say with certainty that the others didn't vote because they have lost interest rather than because they don't agree. You could also make an argument that, given the Trusts stance on issues in the past, those who are 'anti' SISU, for want of a better term, are more likely to be members.
The problem is how do you get a more representative response. Obviously you need a less leading question with a wider range of options but how do you cover more of the fanbase? Maybe you'd have to poll the crowd on the way into a game. I would guess that would give you the biggest response.
No you are trolling, otherwise you wouldn't have ignored my other post that was directly to you, the one that that showed you are a hypocrite and don't believe what you are saying. We've only had 225ish votes on the should we sack Pressley thread, there is thousands and thousands of members of this forum and many more who just visit as guests, hell we have over 330 people viewing the forum now. Yet you don't believe only a few percent of this forum want Pressley sacked.
You know full well that the respondents to the SBT poll are enough to be very representative and if anything the ones that didn't vote due to having given up on this whole mess are even more likely to chose sisu out than the ones who are still engaged.
Getting over 20% of people to do something from an e-mail that doesn't really matter is actually a pretty good response.
Council elections are badly attended though due to the fact that virtually no one is actually informed on what the councillors stand for, almost everyone has heard of none of the candidates on their ballot paper so people that can be bothered to vote mostly vote for the party they support in the general election. But this is really not relevant to whether this poll is representative and I'm sure you know full well that 80% of SBT members wanting sisu out is extremely likely to be accurate +- 5%
Not sure that's the case. Given the options were sack everyone or sell up it's hard to say with certainty that the others didn't vote because they have lost interest rather than because they don't agree. You could also make an argument that, given the Trusts stance on issues in the past, those who are 'anti' SISU, for want of a better term, are more likely to be members.
The problem is how do you get a more representative response. Obviously you need a less leading question with a wider range of options but how do you cover more of the fanbase? Maybe you'd have to poll the crowd on the way into a game. I would guess that would give you the biggest response.
Your rather tedious throwaway trolling line seems to be your get out when you are behind in a debate (something I would imagine is a common trait in your life if your performance on here is at all representative).
With regard to the Pressley out thread - this is extremely relevant. The 225 votes is I would suggest an extremely high proportion of most frequent users on here. Many people will sign up and not use the forum or do so very infrequently. The relevance is similar to the trust. Most members were enrolled in a period a couple of years ago. Most of these now disregard themselves as members. In essence it's a clique if a few people who represent no one.
I don't think it was a dig at you.
As usual you speak up for torch let him fight his own battles or is that your alter ego.
Yes of course it is my alter ego, because how could more than one person have different views to you?
You had better speak to your trust buddies about duplicate accounts if you have issues with them, to keep the balance and stuff.
Maybe you should pipe down then and let the Trust fellas fight their own battles?
ointlaugh: ointlaugh:
Fuck me you need to look in the mirror.
So Tim has really got to you I thought it was just a rumour?
Look in the mirror for what? Where have I accused people of having an alter ego because they have a different view to me?
I pointed something out to Simon as I didn't think he knew how it was meant, yet you have a go as I am "defending people". Yet you are on here constantly defending the trust 24/7.
Tim got to me? Never met the bloke, never planning to. I think you are a bit paranoid.
Ha! That's it. You always come out with your stock accusations.
Paranoid me I personally don't give a toss, we will be left with fuck all after this bunch have finished with us I personally will just move on like many others.
You on the other hand can just keep on blaming everyone else and then put in the usual But.....
And you just come out I blame Sisu BUT what about the Trust what about the Hillers what about CCC what about the Egg Chaser oh Higgs are cunts and Elliot and Hoffman are scoundrels but yes I blame sisu.
By the way not an accusation and not started by me just what I have heard around the Ricoh I have met Nick and actually stuck up for him but on second thoughts maybe I was wrong to do so???
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