Seems like nice balanced reporting on that account you've linked there. Particularly like the pictures of people sieg heiling just in case you were unsure what their political standpoint was.
Fair amount of silence on here from the same people normally branding others racists and nazis for questioning the 'refugee' policy.
This will only happen more and more, and was quite apparent from day one.
Why are you more bothered about a tweet from Trump than the fact two people we have taken in as 'refugees' have almost blown up a train full of people?
pity he didn't succeed eh mate? That would of really been a point scorer for you.
Fair amount of silence on here from the same people normally branding others racists and nazis for questioning the 'refugee' policy.
This will only happen more and more, and was quite apparent from day one.
What a shit bomb. Proper rubber dinghy rapid bro stuff there.
Are you only allowed to be bothered by one thing? The real question is why are you more bothered about hurting Trumps feelings than stopping terrorist attacks? If the security services say it was a shit move, it was a shit move.
What’s your plan?
Oh wait, that won’t catch this guy:
Or this guy:
Stop pretending you’re the only one that wants to stop terrorists, when in fact it’s just that your ideas are shit and don’t work.
It's not about point scoring. It's about realising there is a problem, and stopping it.
Have you changed your mind on how we tackle the refugee issue yet?
No. This country has always been charitable to those in need and long may it continue. It's sickening that this pair (if there are only 2), have thrown it back in our faces and I feel sorry for the old couple who must feel terrible when all they were trying to do was help, but we have never turned our backs on those in need and we never should.
Of course, if we can give the authorities more resources to police it better then I'm all for it.
Of course, in an ideal world, there'd be no war zones so people wouldn't feel the need to risk their families lives trying to cross the med in a dinghy.
And please remember, the two worst atrocities of recent years, London 7/7 and Manchester were carried out by British citizens and by a guy who was known to the authorities but had had a control order lifted so he could travel freely between the UK and Libya to help moderates, (that's Al Queda and ISIS to me and you), fight Gadaffi. So policing refugees is only one part of the issue.
I'm bothered about the tweet from Trump because it amounts to a leak in our intelligence which our own intelligence services and even are PM have indicated is a serious problem which benefits the very people we are trying to stop.Why are you more bothered about a tweet from Trump than the fact two people we have taken in as 'refugees' have almost blown up a train full of people?
I'm bothered about the tweet from Trump because it amounts to a leak in our intelligence which our own intelligence services and even are PM have indicated is a serious problem which benefits the very people we are trying to stop.
Once again you seem to have failed to grasp that people can think about more than one issue at a time. Being concerned about an intelligence leak does not mean you have to totally ignore everything else going on in the world and pretend terrorism doesn't exist.
There is being charitable, and there is being naive and walked over. We need to find the balance so that we can do the former without posing a risk to our security. I agree with you, it is sickening that they've thrown it back in our faces, but it won't be the last time.
The refugee policy is only part of the issue, but if as you say, Pandoras box is open, why do we need to keep adding to the problem too? It's like saying because you've got a flat tyre you might as well slash the other three.
the best way to stop refugees coming here is to live in a world that doesn't create refugees, something which we have contributed to with our foreign and environmental policies, so I think it's only right that we shoulder some of the burden.
If you think we need to shut the door on those in need to prevent those who wish to do us harm from entering the country then that's your opinion and one your entitled to but it's not something I can agree with.
Get a grip, most people can engage more than one brain cell and cope with multiple things being mentioned. In any case it wasn't me who mentioned Trump, I was reply to Lurker.Again, it's a deliberate attempt to deflect the problem, not talk about the real issue, and blame anything other than these fucking idiotic policies that led to this event (and others) happening in the first place.
Has someone taught you a new phrase today, this is second thread you've used it in! :emoji_smiley:virtue signalling
Why does it need to be all or nothing though?
I remember when I mentioned it, don't just allow any Tom, Dick or Harry in. Boats full of blokes on their own looked dodgy.
You can still help people while being very careful who you let in, the fact there are twats already here doesn't mean letting more in is OK.
Fair amount of silence on here from the same people normally branding others racists and nazis for questioning the 'refugee' policy.
This will only happen more and more, and was quite apparent from day one.
This is where it was messed up from the start. When we knew we were going to start bombing people common sense tells you there will be a flood of refugees. There should have been a process to get them out of the danger zone but screened as soon as possible and then distributed around Europe. High capacity temporary camps with the facilities to screen people quickly right on the border.I said at the time that if we are bringing in so many refugees they need to be screened more.
This is where it was messed up from the start. When we knew we were going to start bombing people common sense tells you there will be a flood of refugees. There should have been a process to get them out of the danger zone but screened as soon as possible and then distributed around Europe. High capacity temporary camps with the facilities to screen people quickly right on the border.
Instead there was not a thought given to it until they started appearing in their thousands and the panic began.
By then it was too late, you had people coming from who knows where claiming to be refugees from the war and no way of telling who was genuine. You can't access government records in a war zone and people can legitimately either not have or lose their passport. I can never find my passport when I'm going away and I'm not worrying about a bomb dropping on me.
Get a grip, most people can engage more than one brain cell and cope with multiple things being mentioned. In any case it wasn't me who mentioned Trump, I was reply to Lurker.
Has someone taught you a new phrase today, this is second thread you've used it in! :emoji_smiley:
the best way to stop refugees coming here is to live in a world that doesn't create refugees, something which we have contributed to with our foreign and environmental policies, so I think it's only right that we shoulder some of the burden.
If you think we need to shut the door on those in need to prevent those who wish to do us harm from entering the country then that's your opinion and one your entitled to but it's not something I can agree with.
#you realise in the nazi bombing thread you only logged on to say its not a big an issue as islamic terrorism right? lol
we do let too many people in, no doubt about it, the country is changing and the govnt are not staying on top of it. but evill still and always will lie in everyone of all races
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Am I wrong?
What have you done anyway? Logged onto both threads to have a pop at someone and try to make yourself earn some likes from others. You then say something underneath which is actually quite true, but also what I've been saying anyway.
Honestly don't know what your problem is.
the best way to stop refugees coming here is to live in a world that doesn't create refugees, something which we have contributed to with our foreign and environmental policies, so I think it's only right that we shoulder some of the burden.
If you think we need to shut the door on those in need to prevent those who wish to do us harm from entering the country then that's your opinion and one your entitled to but it's not something I can agree with.
We've got a huge advantage having an actual physical border. At the very least we should have a vague idea of who we're letting in.The UK doesn't have to fix the rest of the world, but it does have to protect itself better.
That is unrealistic, it is more realistic to restrict access of economic migrants from countries exporting terrorism and make it easier to deport anyone entering illegally.
The UK doesn't have to fix the rest of the world, but it does have to protect itself better.
doesnt matter if you are wrong or right, dont veer away from nazi bombing topics and then act smug about certain posters not commenting on a islamic terroism attempt. you cant have it both ways
nothing about earning likes, like minded people agree with me thats all
i am sorry i said something you agree with, didnt expect it to offend you so much........
It's not that I am offended. It's that you've basically agreed with what I said, but then bashed me anyway. Classic like grabbing really.
On that thread I denounced all that shit, I then corrected some posters when they were way off the mark with what they were saying. Nothing to joke about Nazism.
i agree about 1point with u
my first paragraph was showing your hypocrisy
you are becoming a joke mate. you literally stand up for trump and blame muslims for everything. you are like the twitter users that respond to trumps every tweet with MY PRESIDENT
and you didnt rate jacob murphy
madness
What’s your plan?
Oh wait, that won’t catch this guy:
Or this guy:
Stop pretending you’re the only one that wants to stop terrorists, when in fact it’s just that your ideas are shit and don’t work.
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