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dongonzalos · Feb 10, 2015

With the new prem tv deal of 5.1 Billion

If Bournemouth were put up for sale today. I wonder what someone would pay for the gamble of a chance to get in.
If you finish bottom next season you automatically become richer than ajax benfica ect....
100 million for last place

wingy · Feb 10, 2015

dongonzalos said:
With the new prem tv deal of 5.1 Billion

If Bournemouth were put up for sale today. I wonder what someone would pay for the gamble of a chance to get in.
If you finish bottom next season you automatically become richer than ajax benfica ect....
100 million for last place

I think they''ve superseded what the WC Is worth

Otis · Feb 11, 2015

It's ridiculous. 5.1 billion?

And this will defintely mean an increase in our monthly TV package payments too, to help fund it.

Grrrrr!!!

Johnrambo · Feb 11, 2015

Otis said:
It's ridiculous. 5.1 billion?

And this will defintely mean an increase in our monthly TV package payments too, to help fund it.

Grrrrr!!!

Oh well, streaming incoming for me. The payments are already so high.

Otis · Feb 11, 2015

Johnrambo said:
Oh well, streaming incoming for me. The payments are already so high.

I don't even want Premier League football. All I want to watch is the City and England, but I mainly get the sports package for the American Football.

Wish they would just split it down and let you pay seperately for either Premier League, or Championship, or League 1 & 2.

Johnrambo · Feb 11, 2015

Otis said:
I don't even want Premier League football. All I want to watch is the City and England, but I mainly get the sports package for the American Football.

Wish they would just split it down and let you pay seperately for either Premier League, or Championship, or League 1 & 2.

Here in Denmark there is only PL, the only time i can watch City is when they are playing against better sides in the cups. Last game on tv was the Chelsea game, so there is years between the matches for me.

Covstu · Feb 11, 2015

Just imagine how much ticket prices are going to be to pay for that £5bn bill!!

Mild-Mannered Janitor · Feb 11, 2015

Johnrambo said:
Here in Denmark there is only PL, the only time i can watch City is when they are playing against better sides in the cups. Last game on tv was the Chelsea game, so there is years between the matches for me.

At the moment, count that as being very fortunate because if last nights game was broadcast then the samaritans wouldn't have been able to cope, as it was, they only had just over 6,000 calls last night from desperate individuals suffering

ecky · Feb 11, 2015

Virgin just put their prices up 10% I got rid of sky it was obscene when you sat down and worked it all out...

Otis · Feb 11, 2015

ecky said:
Virgin just put their prices up 10% I got rid of sky it was obscene when you sat down and worked it all out...

Yep, I'm with Virgin too.

It's really annoying. I really am not interested in Premier football or indeed, Championship football. All I want to do is watch the City when they are on and England games.

The sneaky bastards too keep moving games from channel to channel. You used to be able to just buy Sky Sports 1 or 2, but now games are moved around and can be on any of the sports channels at any time with no rhyme or reason.

westofrayne · Feb 11, 2015

dongonzalos said:
With the new prem tv deal of 5.1 Billion

If Bournemouth were put up for sale today. I wonder what someone would pay for the gamble of a chance to get in.
If you finish bottom next season you automatically become richer than ajax benfica ect....
100 million for last place

= increase in ticket prices for no reason

= TV prices for BT /Sky increase

= Players wages increase

= tiny % given to grassroots football

= Game will implode, and then the PL will be in a right mess

= harder for any team not in PL in 2016 to ever get there and stay there

Use this money wisely to invest in grassroots, look at Holland/Spain, there should be 20% tax on this and use to build new grass & astro pitches that grassroots clubs own not council

Sky Blue Pete · Feb 11, 2015

Can't believe no one is saying its abhorrent! It just gets worse and worse but who cares

Otis · Feb 11, 2015

Sky Blue Pete said:
Can't believe no one is saying its abhorrent! It just gets worse and worse but who cares

Well, I was going to, but I couldn't quite remember how to spell it to be honest.

hill83 · Feb 11, 2015

I refuse to pay for sky. It's easily streamed online and it's on in the pub.

Otis · Feb 11, 2015

hill83 said:
I refuse to pay for sky. It's easily streamed online and it's on in the pub.

True, but I like the NFL and some of those games are on in the middle of the night. Not so sure I can stream those and do so legally or without getting caught.

fernandopartridge · Feb 11, 2015

Otis said:
It's ridiculous. 5.1 billion?

And this will defintely mean an increase in our monthly TV package payments too, to help fund it.

Grrrrr!!!

Don't pay for it. Anybody with a genuine interest in football wouldn't.

hill83 · Feb 11, 2015

Otis said:
True, but I like the NFL and some of those games are on in the middle of the night. Not so sure I can stream those and do so legally or without getting caught.

It adds to the excitement if the police might burst in at any moment.

Sky Blue Pete · Feb 11, 2015

Otis said:
Well, I was going to, but I couldn't quite remember how to spell it to be honest.

hill83 said:
It adds to the excitement if the police might burst in at any moment.

You always have the ability to make me smile hill

Gosford Green · Feb 11, 2015

Bollocks to Murdoch and Sky. Its an excuse to go to the pub to watch Premier league games if I really fancy seeing a particular one.

stupot07 · Feb 11, 2015

The only winners here are players and their agents.

It's abhorrent, little money will trickle down to the football league or grass roots

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - so please excuse any spelling or grammar errors

Marty · Feb 11, 2015

Otis said:
True, but I like the NFL and some of those games are on in the middle of the night. Not so sure I can stream those and do so legally or without getting caught.

I've been streaming for years. NFL games are available on the sites. We ditched our virgin package and I haven't missed it one bit, replace it with an android box and you have everything and more virgin supply but with no cost.

Hobo · Feb 11, 2015

Sky Blue Pete said:
Can't believe no one is saying its abhorrent! It just gets worse and worse but who cares

Bang on with that....it is abhorrent. It is something that should give rise to protests not something to celebrate at all.

Moff · Feb 11, 2015

Its a bad bad deal for football, well at least 60 of the 92 league clubs, who wont get near the Premier League.

Its becoming pretty much a closed shop already and bar exceptions like Bournemouth who may get there this season, with those riches on offer its going to be the same clubs in the top league every season with the same 6 or 7 coming up or down, as they will be richer than any other clubs in the Championship. Its just becoming so dull and boring, same old, same old.

The only hope for us is that we become the play thing of someone who has money to burn and funds the club like they want it to succeed...in fact the complete opposite of the wankers that currently own us.

tisza · Feb 11, 2015

if ever there was a case for NOPM this it. non-premier league fans cancel their Sky.
going to lead to an even bigger influx of foreign players.
maybe they should build a museum they can put Harry kane in as there probably won't be many more young English players given a chance to come through.
prediction for the next 12 months the B team scenario to reappear with even more money behind it.

Terry Gibson's perm · Feb 11, 2015

I am dreading the next sky increase even though it should be a decrease for when they lose the champions league to BT. It is appalling that the bottom team will get that kind of money talk about rewarding failure. They need to stop this rubbish about the parachute payments get relegated sell players or write it in to their contracts for massive pay cuts.
Also teams that come up cannot not spend no money and try and sneak by like Burnley and say they are using it to do up the ground that is not what Sky pay them for it is for the best entertaining players.

Ashdown · Feb 11, 2015

This deal could effectively end the relegation/promotion campaigns to and from the PL. The relegated teams will always be hot favourites to go straight back up with the parachute payments. The game becomes more detached from reality every year, no wonder clubs at our level struggle to get bums on seats !

mrbluesky87 · Feb 11, 2015

I don't for one minute disagree that this is a bad deal for the lower leagues and no doubt my premium will rise slightly but to suggest that real football fans or those who support lower league teams should cancel their subscription is bollocks.

I'm a virgin customer and thus have sky sports and bt sports which if i'm honest is bloody great, my kids love their sports so it keeps them entertained and I like other sports after football, i'm a big F1 fan and would pay a large premium to watch that regardless, also like cricket, the boys like WWE and always have sky sports news on if all else fails.

Also sky do promote FL72 quite well and being a fan of a club outside the top flight enjoy watching lower league football.

I'm not getting paid for this honest but just pointing out to those who are pointing fingers that its not just about Premier league football, if they took that away, I would still pay the premium to watch everything else.

Its up to the Premier League to distribute this money wisely, if they really thought about it we could have the best 4 leagues in the world if spent well.

Ian1779 · Feb 11, 2015

Will the arse fall out of football? It should do really... but the juggernaut keeps rolling.

I think we are 5 years away from a European Super League... and Sky will be all over it's conception seeing as didn't 'appear' to put up too much of a fight regarding the Champions League.

Covstu · Feb 11, 2015

I see we have a word of the day!

Costs are daft but equally it will escalate to £10bn mark in 3 years time. There is already an additional £3bn likely to come from foreign deals and meanwhile the football league teams get what........???

The gulf will just get greater and greater, look at Leicester who were comfortable last year in the Championship and now cannot get a point for love no money even though they are playing well.

Equally this has more knock on effects to the cup games, one place in the prem could mean £5-10M but winning the cup will give you a £1M so whats the point for prem teams apart from a chance of glory. Newcastle, Swansea and even teams like Ipswich were fielding weakened teams in the competition already.

Covstu · Feb 11, 2015

mrbluesky87 said:
I don't for one minute disagree that this is a bad deal for the lower leagues and no doubt my premium will rise slightly but to suggest that real football fans or those who support lower league teams should cancel their subscription is bollocks.

I'm a virgin customer and thus have sky sports and bt sports which if i'm honest is bloody great, my kids love their sports so it keeps them entertained and I like other sports after football, i'm a big F1 fan and would pay a large premium to watch that regardless, also like cricket, the boys like WWE and always have sky sports news on if all else fails.

Also sky do promote FL72 quite well and being a fan of a club outside the top flight enjoy watching lower league football.

I'm not getting paid for this honest but just pointing out to those who are pointing fingers that its not just about Premier league football, if they took that away, I would still pay the premium to watch everything else.

Its up to the Premier League to distribute this money wisely, if they really thought about it we could have the best 4 leagues in the world if spent well.

I dont have sports packages for Virgin but end up paying more each year as a result of this though.

I dont blame Sky for this as if it wasnt them it would have been Virgin or BT or someone else they have just controlled it. Now there is competition this is pushing up the value, lets face it if Sky lost this completely (highly unlikely) it could have been disasterous for them.

chiefdave · Feb 11, 2015

Ashdown said:
This deal could effectively end the relegation/promotion campaigns to and from the PL. The relegated teams will always be hot favourites to go straight back up with the parachute payments. The game becomes more detached from reality every year, no wonder clubs at our level struggle to get bums on seats !

The PL is already like 2 divisions, the top teams who have a chance of winning something and everyone else making up the numbers. Increasingly we're going to see the same teams getting promoted and relegated due to the size of the parachute payments.

The promised land of the PL is only the promised land because of the TV money. You can see plenty of matches with rows of empty seats, just look at Villa last week playing Chelsea. Even playing one of the top teams they can't fill the ground. Southampton are on about doubling the capacity of St Marys by adding a second tier but it's not particularly hard to get tickets for any games at the moment.

Surely at some point the bubble has to burst.

Brighton Sky Blue · Feb 11, 2015

chiefdave said:
The PL is already like 2 divisions, the top teams who have a chance of winning something and everyone else making up the numbers. Increasingly we're going to see the same teams getting promoted and relegated due to the size of the parachute payments.

The promised land of the PL is only the promised land because of the TV money. You can see plenty of matches with rows of empty seats, just look at Villa last week playing Chelsea. Even playing one of the top teams they can't fill the ground. Southampton are on about doubling the capacity of St Marys by adding a second tier but it's not particularly hard to get tickets for any games at the moment.

Surely at some point the bubble has to burst.

Richard 'We're not a charity' Scudamore couldn't care less. Just because we are told it's the most exciting league in the world doesn't make it so Richard.

Ashdown · Feb 11, 2015

I hardly watch any PL football to be honest and I have the full Sky package. I'm only ever intrigued in a match when one of the big 6 look likely to be toppled. Hate to say it but the best value I had this season was when Leicester stuck 5 past Man Utd !

rob9872 · Feb 11, 2015

Its a great product and a little thing called supply and demand dictates. Does anybody really believe that sky will have paid more than it's worth and at a rate they can't make money from? I don't like such high prices and I can see reading all the posts that others feel the same, but we dont have to clearly many do as it's a tried and trusted model that works. People said it would implode in the 90s when the contract was a fraction of todays money, so that looks a tired argument without foundation.

It just seems so many people want to get out of their pram about this, but don't bat an eyelid at some two bob actor getting £7m for reciting a few lines in a film.

chiefdave · Feb 11, 2015

rob9872 said:
Its a great product and a little thing called supply and demand dictates. Does anybody really believe that sky will have paid more than it's worth and at a rate they can't make money from?

The quick answer to that would be ITV Digital. Sky will need to create more revenue as they have paid more. There's not going to be a sudden surge in subscribers so ad revenue won't increase so how are they going to get their money back? It will be an increase in the cost to the viewer. At some point people will go it's not worth it and cancel. Then the value of ad time drops. People don't have an unlimited amount of disposable income, with Sky losing the Champions League they might already have a problem retaining subscribers, if they put the price up as well that probability surely increases.

The markets obviously have concerns, Sky's share price has taken a hit since this new deal has been announced.

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