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He came here from Forest because he wanted to play regular football. If he's not getting regular football here, why would he stay?
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Because otherwise he would have to drop down at least a division. If he’s offered a contract here he will have had to do something in the next couple of months to suggest he is capable of making an impact here.
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And if he has confidence in himself, drop down a division, score the goals he did at mansfield and Lincoln, and he's hot property again.
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Maybe you're right but I am not convinced. It hasn't really worked for Clark-Harris. He'd have to do really well in League 1 to get a better team than us the year after, and he'd have wasted a year at presumably a lower salary as well as playing at a lower level.
stupot07
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What's Clarke-Harris got to do with it? We sold him whilst we were in League one to a league one team, he is still in league one so hasn't dropped down a league since leaving us.
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Doesn't have to be a better team than us though. We weren't a better team than Forest when he signed for us.
And get the right League One team,and he'sin this division the season after anyway.
That seems far more of a plan than hang around with us, getting the occasional sub appearance and wasting his career away.
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The point i was making is that he scored a lot of goals at League 1 level but Championship clubs haven't been falling over themselves to sign him.
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But Forest didn't want him?
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But they haven't been falling over themselves partly because he hasn't been playing and scoring. Same as he needed a loan move from Forest to have us fall over ourselves to sign him in the first place. Profile counts for a fair bit, doesn't it.
So if he backs himself, he needs somewhere where he gets that chance to show what he's about.
stupot07
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That's because he isn't good enough for the championship. Which has been proven in the 2-3 times he's played in the division. If your good enough and score enough goals you'll get picked up.
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I was talking about Clark Harris there.
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I agree on Clark-Harris. I think it is still to be seen with regard to Walker and don't think Championship clubs would readily be convinced given his record at this level up to now. Hence I am sure he would sign any contract we offered him.
stupot07
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That's assuming he is only interested in Money and not playing football. He would rather stay at Cov playing 10-15 mins here and there, getting slagged off by the majority of the fan base, than go somewhere the league below and start 40+ games a season.
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I guess only he knows, and of course that is subject to us even offering him contract anyway, which is probably unlikely.
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The other question of course is, even if you were happy to have Walker as one of your squad players, would you want to offer a contract to somebody who was satisfied with how his past couple of seasons with us have gone?
I guess he has had injuries, and that hasn't helped, but...
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No. Which is why he would have to achieve something in the next couple of months to get offered one. Let's hope yesterday will be the start of that,
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That's not what I meant
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He hasn't played much because he has had better players ahead of him. He would need to prove that he has a potential role in the side. If he can do that in the coming months good.
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Nope, still not what I meant!
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If you're implying he should feel dissatisfied by his treatment by Robins and he wouldn't be worth having if he doesn't feel that way I simply don't agree.
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Nope, not that either!
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OK explain then
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So, could we get a better third choice striker at this level, especially when we tend to play one up front? Probably not.
So... you'd offer him a contract based on that.
But... does it show a will to win, and a desire to progress, if an established player is happy to be third choice striker and therefore sign a new contract? probably not.
So... you'd not offer him a contract based on that.
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If he showed sufficient evidence of desire (and ability) over the next couple of months then I would. But at the moment it looks a tall order.
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I think his time here is probably over, regardless of what happens over the next couple of months.
Grendel
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A championship club would never have signed Godden
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tbf, we turned Huddersfield down last season.
TomRad85
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I think you move him on and bring in a younger third choice with potential at this point. Same could be said for Godden as well in fairness, and no I'm not knocking what he's done for us, he's been great.
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Astute
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If we were just cruising along in mid table Godden would be good enough. But we're aiming higher now. We need a result nearly every game. We need someone with a bit of pace to trouble defenders. Just what we would have had if O'Hare wasn't injured.
That pass from Gyokeres to Walker when he was on a hat-trick was a team thing. Not only did he score but would have felt like a part of the team in the first time in ages. Just what he needed.
If he stays in the team I see him as the one to help us into the playoffs. We've lost Allen and his goals. We have some lower down teams to play now.
It isn't unusual to see Gyokeres have to take on 4 or 5 players to score. Have Walker running at the defence at the same time they have a choice. Defenders split between the two means Gyokeres gets a lot more space. If they don't then Walker gets lots of space.
That pass from Gyokeres to Walker when he was on a hat-trick was a team thing. Not only did he score but would have felt like a part of the team in the first time in ages. Just what he needed.
If he stays in the team I see him as the one to help us into the playoffs. We've lost Allen and his goals. We have some lower down teams to play now.
It isn't unusual to see Gyokeres have to take on 4 or 5 players to score. Have Walker running at the defence at the same time they have a choice. Defenders split between the two means Gyokeres gets a lot more space. If they don't then Walker gets lots of space.
Calista
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I'm less convinced than you that when Vik took these two guys on (instead of passing to his right) that he was thinking about setting up Walker for a goal.
Astute
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At that time no. But he only had two in front of him and chose to pass when on a hat-trick. I certainly didn't expect the pass.
We could do with some big scores against the lower sides for our GD. Give Walker a shot while Godden fully recovers from his injury. He has the ability. He has watched us most of the season so should know how we play. His chance to shine. If he can't do it now with these players with him and so many lower down clubs to play he will never make it in the Championship.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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I think both sides of the argument stand true here. From what I've seen of Godden this season, he looks pretty underwhelming. That's coming from someone who absolutely loves him, and in previous seasons I would have backed him up 100%.
At the same time, a game against an extremely poor Huddersfield has brought some slightly strange views out. Walker has been poor for most of the last two years, with a few exceptions. Another player that fits into that category is Dabo.
Yet, you have posters going around hurling insults at those who have challenged whether either player have a future at the club, and have clearly been waiting for a very long time to have some evidence to put that point of view forward.
We've gone on to infinity this season about how much deadwood we have in the squad, and how much we need to have a clear out in the summer. Based on one game you'd end up giving half of those players new contracts if you listened to some of those on here.
I don't think any of these players are awful, and I thank them for their time, but let's have a reality check. If we want to move forward, it's time for them to try their luck elsewhere.
At the same time, a game against an extremely poor Huddersfield has brought some slightly strange views out. Walker has been poor for most of the last two years, with a few exceptions. Another player that fits into that category is Dabo.
Yet, you have posters going around hurling insults at those who have challenged whether either player have a future at the club, and have clearly been waiting for a very long time to have some evidence to put that point of view forward.
We've gone on to infinity this season about how much deadwood we have in the squad, and how much we need to have a clear out in the summer. Based on one game you'd end up giving half of those players new contracts if you listened to some of those on here.
I don't think any of these players are awful, and I thank them for their time, but let's have a reality check. If we want to move forward, it's time for them to try their luck elsewhere.
stevefloyd
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Absolutely agree and while most of them have contributed to where we are this season IF we had better players with the same mentality we would almost certainly be higher up the league. We definitely need to add quality to the team to compliment what we already have and hopefully make the big 3 or 4 think about maybe giving us another season. If we progress next season (unless we fluke promotion this season) who knows what we could achieve lets hope Robins is the man to take us up and keep us there