UEFA EURO 2024 (4 Viewers)

Evo1883 · Jun 26, 2024

Mucca Mad Boys said:
To be honest, looking at how this group stage has panned out, I don’t think our performances have been *that* bad.

France, Belgium, Italy - 2nd place
Netherlands - 3rd place
Portugal - lost a game
Germany - needed a stoppage time goal to avoid finishing 2nd

The only team to come out best is Spain and they’re rewarded with a tough half of the group! Personally do not think they’ll make the final either.

Our minimum requirements now has got to be the final and anything other than that and this tournament is definitively a failure.

Portugal made 8 changes tbh , England have been poor there's no getting around that mate , with the easiest group

Macca · Jun 26, 2024

I don’t think we will get past Sunday. The camp is not happy

Evo1883 · Jun 26, 2024

Macca said:
I don’t think we will get past Sunday. The camp is not happy

Il be gobsmacked if we don't win Sunday

oscillatewildly · Jun 26, 2024

I think for the knockout stage we face the labour party - That's gonna be taxing.

Brighton Sky Blue · Jun 26, 2024

oscillatewildly said:
I think for the knockout stage we face the labour party - That's gonna be taxing.

Macca · Jun 26, 2024

Evo1883 said:
Il be gobsmacked if we don't win Sunday

I just have that feeling. Like 3 games on the trot we have done the same thing. You are right of course we really should win but have a nagging doubt. I hope he makes changes and brings the likes of Palmer in from the start. We may well need a spark in a game where again we will need to break down a defensive opposition

Evo1883 · Jun 26, 2024

Another chance for Gareth to get to a final tbh

oscillatewildly · Jun 26, 2024

Brighton Sky Blue said:

If you think that's tax, you ain't seen nothin yet!

Seymour_East · Jun 26, 2024

Evo1883 said:
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Another chance for Gareth to get to a final tbh

Tough draw for Belgium… 2 matches

Macca · Jun 26, 2024

Politics free thread please . Managed to completely avoid the election until now

oscillatewildly · Jun 26, 2024

Macca said:
Politics free thread please . Managed to completely avoid the election until now

Never mind the ballots.

SBAndy · Jun 26, 2024

Anything short of the final is now failure. I also have my doubts over whether you can be suitably prepared for a big slobberknocker of a final having basically played the ‘fodder’ side of the draw. Although I do think we could easily come unstuck against at least 4 of our side of the draw.

Sky Blue Harry H · Jun 26, 2024

It's coming ho.......................
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Skybluekyle · Jun 26, 2024

Sky Blue Harry H said:
It's coming ho.......................
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The standard response of the waiter when you ask where your food is in a Coventry Wetherspoons

baldy · Jun 26, 2024

Evo1883 said:
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Another chance for Gareth to get to a final tbh

Based on?

Skybluekyle · Jun 26, 2024

Macca said:
Politics free thread please . Managed to completely avoid the election until now

What if I were to say that Sunak is probably more optimistic that he will still be in no 10 on the 5th July than England fans have of still being in the Euros on 1st July?

Has the benefit of being true, at least!

Ian1779 · Jun 26, 2024

Evo1883 said:
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Another chance for Gareth to get to a final tbh

About as good as you could have imagined it to be honest.

Mucca Mad Boys · Jun 26, 2024

Evo1883 said:
Portugal made 8 changes tbh , England have been poor there's no getting around that mate , with the easiest group

Agreed, I spent €200 on the England match, which was ‘cheap’ considering most listings were €400 initially… which is the most I’ve spent on a footy match.

Improvement is needed, 1000% agreed… the tournament so far has had so many underperforming favourites. Ourselves, France and Belgium in particular have performed below expectations.

I’d fancy us against anyone because I’m a delusional fan, of course but no one in our half of the bracket should beat us. We beat Italy twice in qualification and should we meet the Dutch in the semis… it’s got to a win for us!

Mucca Mad Boys · Jun 26, 2024

SBAndy said:
Anything short of the final is now failure. I also have my doubts over whether you can be suitably prepared for a big slobberknocker of a final having basically played the ‘fodder’ side of the draw. Although I do think we could easily come unstuck against at least 4 of our side of the draw.

Even if we got to, and lost, the final it can’t be considered a failure if really. If I was Southgate, I’d walk regardless of the result. We don’t win it all, he sacks off all the grief he gets regularly and if we win it, he resigns on a high.

If France were in our bracket, I’d consider a SF loss to them as “acceptable” - no one in our bracket should come close to us. The group games were bad, yes but the players need to live with the expectation and blow these teams away now.

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Jun 27, 2024

Seymour_East said:
Tough draw for Belgium… 2 matches

Macca · Jun 27, 2024

SBAndy said:
Anything short of the final is now failure. I also have my doubts over whether you can be suitably prepared for a big slobberknocker of a final having basically played the ‘fodder’ side of the draw. Although I do think we could easily come unstuck against at least 4 of our side of the draw.

I think this team currently could come unstuck against anyone such is it’s fragility

Macca · Jun 27, 2024

Skybluekyle said:
What if I were to say that Sunak is probably more optimistic that he will still be in no 10 on the 5th July than England fans have of still being in the Euros on 1st July?

Has the benefit of being true, at least!

Allowed

OffenhamSkyBlue · Jun 27, 2024

Paul Anthony said:
That looks a soft penalty for Georgia

There was contact, but he made it look like he trod on a fooking landmine, not got tripped up.

CCFCSteve · Jun 27, 2024

Very good article

England under Gareth Southgate: rampant individualism and a saviour complex | Jonathan Liew

Manager has become used to the trappings of office and players are in a comfort zone. Where has the sense of fun gone?

www.theguardian.com

Alan Dugdales Moustache · Jun 27, 2024

Team of the tournament so far as entertaining is concerned : Georgia. Brilliant attacking football. A joy to watch. An antidote to watching England.

Philosoraptor · Jun 28, 2024

I saw something earlier on in thread and I would like to share a blog.

Mucca Mad Boys said:
I honestly think it’s ruining the group stages at the Euros. To reflect on last nights game, but this applies elsewhere too, Slovenia were happy for a draw even if they finished 3rd place.

In this round of games, Romania and Slovakia both know they’re through irrespective of that happens in the other game.

Ironically, Belgium’s coach is highly regarded and they’re likely to finish second in the only group ranked lower than ours.

Evo1883 said:
They need to go back to 4 groups( tough competition ) , or it has to be 8 (weaker competition )..

Can't have 3rd placed failures going through it's stupid

Mucca Mad Boys said:
Realistically, UEFA will only expand it and I’m not against that, but let’s reduce the qualification process because I agree the competition would be weaker.

It’s fundamentally unfair, for example, that the teams in the later groups know exactly what they need to progress so it becomes like a chess match and not in a good way.

It really irritates me that all the weaker teams are happy to have 20-30% possession to force draws. Compare to the World Cup where we battered Wales because they needed a result against us.

Fun reading for those who are interested.

Tournament Formats in Professional Chess

Getting the conversation started on the drawbacks of ubiquitous formats

lichess.org

Edit- Anyone want to build a narrative for a swiss-style system which will be basically the Champions League next year. Easily done!

Evo1883 · Jun 29, 2024

Greatest Italian footballer of All time ?

I think roberto baggio

But it's a tough one and not as straight forward as some countries

TomRad85 · Jun 29, 2024

Evo1883 said:
Greatest Italian footballer of All time ?

I think roberto baggio

But it's a tough one and not as straight forward as some countries

It's a country where defenders and goalkeepers really stand out, unlike most other countries.

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LastGarrison · Jun 29, 2024

Evo1883 said:
Greatest Italian footballer of All time ?

I think roberto baggio

But it's a tough one and not as straight forward as some countries

Over Maldini?

Evo1883 · Jun 29, 2024

LastGarrison said:
Over Maldini?

In terms of ability yes , maldini the greatest left back / defender of all time sure .. it's a tough one

Otis · Jun 29, 2024

That was a dive.

The Italian went down before Xhaka even touched him

Nuskyblue · Jun 29, 2024

Italy doing a passable impression of England.

If Switzerland had a half decent striker they would be a very x very good side.

Evo1883 · Jun 29, 2024

Deserved , Italy look dire

Johnnythespider · Jun 29, 2024

Deserve that, well on top

HadjiChippo · Jun 29, 2024

That’s been coming, really well taken half volley

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