Really? So his mother is English but he can't claim to be British and yet someone with no British ancestry and wasn't born here is perfectly ok? That's even more mixed up!
I don’t disagree I do baulk at the notion Kevin Pieterson is though
On playing for England I agree, but his right to be a Brit is indisputable.Pieterson wanted to play for South Africa. He opposed the legislation that meant the team had to select black cricketers so he moved to England on a parents passport and qualified under a 4 year rule.
No. Even if she wins multiple slams. You can keep baiting like the poundshop Grendel you've become, but still no and having watched her and enjoying Tennis I probably have more invested in her than some cheap IRA supporting troll.
I'm made up for her, amazing achievement, seems really level headed and a great kid too, but to change my stance based on success would be an awful thing to do, British if you win but not if you lose. No issues if she wants to call herself British and play as a Brit knowing the trappings and sponsorship that will follow as first female slam champ in nearly 50 years - good luck to her I'd do the same, but in her heart I'd be surprised if she doesn't think differently.
On playing for England I agree, but his right to be a Brit is indisputable.
Idiot? Really? What is about this place that makes it acceptable to start dishing insults so readily when someone's opinion differs from theirs? As a moderator it's a joke. Have I called you anything? Have I unprovoked started on you? I often respond similar, but don't initiate it. A couple of weeks ago everyone was crying about the word 'spastic' arguably rightly so, although the one complaining not blameless, yet we can't even police ourselves and be respectful. It's an opinion on Britishness. I respect her, I respect her play, I'm thrilled for her, even her right to feel British, I just have an opinion that no ancestry here and not born here doesn't make her so. I'm allowed to hold that thought without you or anyone else thinking it's acceptable to dish out insults.She's playing as a Brit as she considers herself British. I imagine she doesn't really care if the odd idiot thinks she shouldn't be allowed to call herself British. You're right that she probably also has an affinity with Canada, Romania & China but doesn't mean she doesn't have any less affinity for the country she's called home for as long as she can remember.
Was 400/1 at start of tournamentI wonder what odds you would have got a month ago
Must have been massive
Otis, I didn't question her right or otherwise to be considered British. What about the rest of my comment?If she moved here when she was 2 and has British citizenship, she's British.
Agreed. You're still wrong about Sean Flynn, tho.I don’t disagree I do baulk at the notion Kevin Pieterson is though
Idiot? Really? What is about this place that makes it acceptable to start dishing insults so readily when someone's opinion differs from theirs? As a moderator it's a joke. Have I called you anything? Have I unprovoked started on you? I often respond similar, but don't initiate it. A couple of weeks ago everyone was crying about the word 'spastic' arguably rightly so, although the one complaining not blameless, yet we can't even police ourselves and be respectful. It's an opinion on Britishness. I respect her, I respect her play, I'm thrilled for her, even her right to feel British, I just have an opinion that no ancestry here and not born here doesn't make her so. I'm allowed to hold that thought without you or anyone else thinking it's acceptable to dish out insults.
So gfy you c**t
Half Romanian, half Chinese and born in Canada. More of a stretch than Greg Rusedski. Media far too hungry for female British slam champion.
His logic means Sir Mo Farha isn't British
Very well put.I used to love that people from around the world took pride in becoming British and aligning with our strong values on justice, compassion and empathy. Feel sorry that we are not as respected as a nation as I’m growing older and those things that make us British are flags, morality and judgement
This idea of Britishness has led to Windrush, people who came here at the behest of the British government and the queen as head of the Commonwealth now questioned as to their right to be considered British, not born here, no ancestry ...........I used to love that people from around the world took pride in becoming British and aligning with our strong values on justice, compassion and empathy. Feel sorry that we are not as respected as a nation as I’m growing older and those things that make us British are flags, morality and judgement
I do feel like these fairytale runs are distracting from just how poor quality women's tennis is at the moment - seems to me anyone in the top 200 can win the Slams, it's just who wants it the most during the course of the two weeks. The fact they get paid the same as men is borderline criminal.
I play tennis every now and then, used to play competitively about 10 years ago, and I'm confident I could win matches against most of the top seeds.
Pound shop Grendel…. Class!!No. Even if she wins multiple slams. You can keep baiting like the poundshop Grendel you've become, but still no and having watched her and enjoying Tennis I probably have more invested in her than some cheap IRA supporting troll.
I'm made up for her, amazing achievement, seems really level headed and a great kid too, but to change my stance based on success would be an awful thing to do, British if you win but not if you lose. No issues if she wants to call herself British and play as a Brit knowing the trappings and sponsorship that will follow as first female slam champ in nearly 50 years - good luck to her I'd do the same, but in her heart I'd be surprised if she doesn't think differently.
I don’t agree about the standard. The choking in the women’s game is a shame and seems to be more prevalent than in the men’s but the standard from the two in the final is magnificentTo be honest I prefer it when there are a whole raft of potential winners and it could be a shock. I want the competition to be evenly spread out not one or two dominating.
Men's tennis I find dull. Djokovic wins. If he doesn't win Federer does. Same with the women's when it was just going to be Serena.
I don’t agree about the standard. The choking in the women’s game is a shame and seems to be more prevalent than in the men’s but the standard from the two in the final is magnificent
Yep Barty was knackeredTo be fair some of the play from the top players has looked poor. The fact a qualifier can get this far isn’t really a ringing endorsement- I saw the QF and the Olympic champion was dire. Barty looks all over the place, Osaka seems gone and Petriva was poor in the semi
Fuck off you French c**tIdiot? Really? What is about this place that makes it acceptable to start dishing insults so readily when someone's opinion differs from theirs? As a moderator it's a joke. Have I called you anything? Have I unprovoked started on you? I often respond similar, but don't initiate it. A couple of weeks ago everyone was crying about the word 'spastic' arguably rightly so, although the one complaining not blameless, yet we can't even police ourselves and be respectful. It's an opinion on Britishness. I respect her, I respect her play, I'm thrilled for her, even her right to feel British, I just have an opinion that no ancestry here and not born here doesn't make her so. I'm allowed to hold that thought without you or anyone else thinking it's acceptable to dish out insults.
So gfy you c**t
This idea of Britishness has led to Windrush, people who came here at the behest of the British government and the queen as head of the Commonwealth now questioned as to their right to be considered British, not born here, no ancestry ...........
Offensive? You can disagree with me that's fine, but it certainly wasn't offensive and could never be considered so by even the wokest of woke!Exactly, which is why I found Rob's comments so offensive. To be fair, he normally seems a decent guy and I was probably wrong to call him an idiot, but I know people who are directly affected by these issues.
Offensive? You can disagree with me that's fine, but it certainly wasn't offensive and could never be considered so by even the wokest of woke!
Exactly, which is why I found Rob's comments so offensive. To be fair, he normally seems a decent guy and I was probably wrong to call him an idiot, but I know people who are directly affected by these issues.
It's not PC but he's right, most people identify with their parents cultures more. My wife was born here and she doesn't really consider herself British. It's only a problem if you consider foreign people as lesser. Its funny how offended some people get by it, if I moved to Japan when I was 2 I doubt I'd be considered Japanese.I guess the thing is that nation states are themselves pretty artificial and so belonging to one becomes difficult to define. If someone moves here the day after they're born and spends their whole life here are they 'more British' than someone born here but moved the day after and never came back?
I moved to Warwick at 3. Proud of Cov, family and ancestry all cov. Ask me where I'm from Cov. Ask me where I live, Warwick.It's not PC but he's right, most people identify with their parents cultures more. My wife was born here and she doesn't really consider herself British. It's only a problem if you consider foreign people as lesser. Its funny how offended some people get by it, if I moved to Japan when I was 2 I doubt I'd be considered Japanese.
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It's not PC but he's right, most people identify with their parents cultures more. My wife was born here and she doesn't really consider herself British. It's only a problem if you consider foreign people as lesser. Its funny how offended some people get by it, if I moved to Japan when I was 2 I doubt I'd be considered Japanese.
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