Let's be honest , if they weren't at war you'd think both countries were full of far right wankersThe fucking deflections from the anti Ukraine lads in here are incredible
Let's be honest , if they weren't at war you'd think both countries were full of far right wankers
Well that just proves my point.
It's like deciding which shit tastes better
I'm pretty sure war crimes have been committed from both sides at this pointWell only one of them decided to invade the other and wipe them off the map, committing war crimes and killing innocent kids along the way.
I think I know which one is worse.
Let's be honest , if they weren't at war you'd think both countries were full of far right wankers
I'm pretty sure war crimes have been committed from both sides at this point
Point being , I couldn't give a shiny shit about Ukraine or Russia
I initially thought this was a football post from a team taking the piss out of our signings.Not even hiding it
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The rationale for forever war that berks like you supportThe thing that everyone knew was happening!
The west doesn't see that as a waste, it's a massive economic opportunity
The rationale for forever war that berks like you support
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Exactly. A large chunk of the "aid" from the USA is on a modern lend-lease agreement.......Ukraine will be paying for it for generations, both in hard cash & also by way of huge infrastructure & re-building projects gifted to the US corps. & multi-nationals....
Meanwhile the EUs generous financial "aid" starts charging interest from 2033 onwards driving Ukraine directly into a huge sovereign debt crisis.....
...still... I took my Mrs out for a drink at the Eurovision song contest earlier this year, so I've done my bit. Take that Putin.
Absolutely nobody in here wants the war to last forever.
There is, however, a few who support Ukraine being wiped off the map forever.
America being one of them
Feels like if this was really the US’ goal then there would be a much easier way of doing itAmerica being one of them
Feels like if this was really the US’ goal then there would be a much easier way of doing it
The rationale for forever war that berks like you support
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Has someone reminded Biden and Putin that they share mutual objectives?America being one of them
Has someone reminded Biden and Putin that they share mutual objectives?
So why is FP sure that they both want Ukraine off the map?They have totally opposite objectives.
So why is FP sure that they both want Ukraine off the map?
Exactly. A large chunk of the "aid" from the USA is on a modern lend-lease agreement.......Ukraine will be paying for it for generations, both in hard cash & also by way of huge infrastructure & re-building projects gifted to the US corps. & multi-nationals....
Meanwhile the EUs generous financial "aid" starts charging interest from 2033 onwards driving Ukraine directly into a huge sovereign debt crisis.....
...still... I took my Mrs out for a drink at the Eurovision song contest earlier this year, so I've done my bit. Take that Putin.
Originally there wasHis comment is that neither care
The US are happy to plunge Russia into a long expensive war regardless of the impact on its opponent
Ifs not even debated that the us under Obama influenced the 2014 rising in Ukraine so a western influenced leader would take control. The US have zero interest in Ukraine or it’s citizens
Which was replied to with thisThere is, however, a few who support Ukraine being wiped off the map forever.
If they both support Ukraine’s destruction then why the animosity?America being one of them
Originally there was
Which was replied to with this
If they both support Ukraine’s destruction then why the animosity?
How can the USA not care about Ukraine while also wanting it wiped off the map while also lending it materiel for waging war?You are being deliberately obtuse - you know full well the point he made
How can the USA not care about Ukraine while also wanting it wiped off the map while also lending it materiel for waging war?
Again you are being obtuse - his point is the US do not care if it is and the longer it takes the better so it will keep arming them and egging them on.
I think there will be universal acknowledgement they have no care for Ukraine and want it to be used as a shield and as FP has posted there is even a commercial opportunity which gets even more lucrative the greater the destruction there is
That is his reference point I would think. So yes it clearly will like as much damage as possible for its own ends
What do all the arms supplied by America do to Ukraine? Remember the war is being conducted entirely in Ukrainian territoryOriginally there was
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If they both support Ukraine’s destruction then why the animosity?
Only if you live in a simplistic goodies vs baddies world like you doI think the crux of the matter really is that you and FP have been far more critical of Ukraine and the US than you have of Russia from day one of this war which most people find a little...odd.
Only if you live in a simplistic goodies vs baddies world like you do
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