Uwe Rosler's View (2 Viewers)

[RPHunt]

"Coventry's home games are like a pre-season game in many ways. There is nobody on the terraces who really lifts the players and the atmosphere is quiet."

Uwe, believe it or not, that is how many of our "home" fans seem to like it.

 

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[thaiskyblue]

uwe's at home ?

 

[Hobo]

"Coventry's home games are like a pre-season game in many ways. There is nobody on the terraces who really lifts the players and the atmosphere is quiet."

Uwe, believe it or not, that is how many of our "home" fans seem to like it.

It's how the owners like it too.

 

[KG7]

"Coventry's home games are like a pre-season game in many ways. There is nobody on the terraces who really lifts the players and the atmosphere is quiet."

Uwe, believe it or not, that is how many of our "home" fans seem to like it.

RPHunt, I think the point is that there is no negativity, not that there is a brilliant atmosphere that everyone revels in.

 

[Monners]

RPHunt, I think the point is that there is no negativity, not that there is a brilliant atmosphere that everyone revels in.

The point he seems to be making is that there is no atmosphere whatsoever - like pre season games.

 

[skybluetony176]

RPHunt, I think the point is that there is no negativity, not that there is a brilliant atmosphere that everyone revels in.

Playing your home games 34 miles away from home isn't negative?

 

[ccfctommy]

Not for the players, no.

Little crowds mean no pressure.

 

[KG7]

The point he seems to be making is that there is no atmosphere whatsoever - like pre season games.

That's the point Uwe's making but I was enlightening RPHunt on the point he was making about it being how the home fans like it.

 

[KG7]

Playing your home games 34 miles away from home isn't negative?

Well it's not a positive. But what could be argued is a positive is that there is no-one berating the players at all, and perhaps (although it remains to be proven) this has a greater effect on the performance of a player than 15,000 fans who are likely to explode into a series of boos at half time.

 

[mrbluesky87]

Well it's not a positive. But what could be argued is a positive is that there is no-one berating the players at all, and perhaps (although it remains to be proven) this has a greater effect on the performance of a player than 15,000 fans who are likely to explode into a series of boos at half time.

Except the Manager does not think this is a factor and the players would/want to go back to the Ricoh at the first given opportunity thus its only the Sixfields few who think differently :thinking about:

 

[mrbluesky87]

Well it's not a positive. But what could be argued is a positive is that there is no-one berating the players at all, and perhaps (although it remains to be proven) this has a greater effect on the performance of a player than 15,000 fans who are likely to explode into a series of boos at half time.

Except the Manager does not think this is a factor and the players would/want to go back to the Ricoh at the first given opportunity thus its only the Sixfields few who think differently :thinking about:read today's CET.

 

[RPHunt]

That's the point Uwe's making but I was enlightening RPHunt on the point he was making about it being how the home fans like it.

Enlightening me? You weren't enlightening me, you were making excuses for why you attend.

If I wanted you to enlighten me, I would require a lobotomy beforehand.

 

[torchomatic]

Enlightening me? You weren't enlightening me, you were making excuses for why you attend.

If I wanted you to enlighten me, I would require a lobotomy beforehand.

No one needs an excuse to attend.

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[KG7]

Enlightening me? You weren't enlightening me, you were making excuses for why you attend.

If I wanted you to enlighten me, I would require a lobotomy beforehand.

I don't understand your lobotomy comment.

Your statement was a misinterpretation of what the fans at Sixfields have been saying about the atmosphere, but I'll take back enlighten as obviously it's riled you (which wasn't my intention).

And finding 'an excuse' in what I said is a stretch.

 

[KG7]

Except the Manager does not think this is a factor and the players would/want to go back to the Ricoh at the first given opportunity thus its only the Sixfields few who think differently :thinking about:read today's CET.

Okay, that's conclusive then is it? Debate over?

I'm not saying it's fact, I'm just saying that for a long time we've had A LOT of fans who've jumped on the backs of players, and the team at every opportunity, and now, at home games, we don't and it's worth monitoring whether this has affect on the team

 

[blueflint]

No one needs an excuse to attend.

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don't know why i think they do

 

[Astute]

Okay, that's conclusive then is it? Debate over?

I'm not saying it's fact, I'm just saying that for a long time we've had A LOT of fans who've jumped on the backs of players, and the team at every opportunity, and now, at home games, we don't and it's worth monitoring whether this has affect on the team

By the sound of it I wouldn't enjoy the games at Northampton. It sounds like the ones that go are the ones that cheer when we score and moan when the other side does. I go to enjoy myself. So do the people I go with. And I don't know anyone who goes to Northampton.

I have been to games when we have only taken a few hundred but have outsung our opponents. I have passion for our club. I can't be quiet. I would feel a fool singing by myself all the game. No wonder the players and manager are saying out loud they want to play in Coventry.

 

[skybluelee]

No one needs an excuse to attend.

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In your opinion.

 

[KG7]

By the sound of it I wouldn't enjoy the games at Northampton. It sounds like the ones that go are the ones that cheer when we score and moan when the other side does. I go to enjoy myself. So do the people I go with. And I don't know anyone who goes to Northampton.

I have been to games when we have only taken a few hundred but have outsung our opponents. I have passion for our club. I can't be quiet. I would feel a fool singing by myself all the game. No wonder the players and manager are saying out loud they want to play in Coventry.

Did you mean to quote me on this Astute? Can't see the connection with what I was saying and what you're saying.

 

[Astute]

Did you mean to quote me on this Astute? Can't see the connection with what I was saying and what you're saying.

You seem to think it is OK not to have the normal atmosphere we have at games as none of the fans get on players backs. So yes I did mean to quote you.

Shall we see what happens when we starting losing in Northampton before we decide how the fans react to the players?

 

[KG7]

You seem to think it is OK not to have the normal atmosphere we have at games as none of the fans get on players backs. So yes I did mean to quote you.

I love a good atmosphere at games, but if I was the only person in the crowd (and I don't sing) and we played well and got three points. I'd be happy.

But regardless of that, our normal atmosphere at home games has been full of boos, negative comments, chanting for our own players to be sent off etc for years and I am just questioning whether no atmosphere is a better arena for our players to perform in than this. Currently, evidence suggests that it is, although I would suggest you can't draw any firm conclusions this early on.

 

[Sky Blue Harry H]

I love a good atmosphere at games, but if I was the only person in the crowd (and I don't sing) and we played well and got three points. I'd be happy.

But regardless of that, our normal atmosphere at home games has been full of boos, negative comments, chanting for our own players to be sent off etc for years and I am just questioning whether no atmosphere is a better arena for our players to perform in than this. Currently, evidence suggests that it is, although I would suggest you can't draw any firm conclusions this early on.

I'm not sure that I can ever remember chanting for a City player to be sent off. Sure people get frustrated when players aren't performing well, but surely we can't be suggesting that we have developed a set of players who are going to go to pieces if there is an atmosphere at a game. If that's the case, none of them will ever be a success in the game?! The way they've played , I think they'd lap up being able to celebrate in front of a large contingent of supporters?

 

[KG7]

I'm not sure that I can ever remember chanting for a City player to be sent off. Sure people get frustrated when players aren't performing well, but surely we can't be suggesting that we have developed a set of players who are going to go to pieces if there is an atmosphere at a game. If that's the case, none of them will ever be a success in the game?! The way they've played , I think they'd lap up being able to celebrate in front of a large contingent of supporters?

Yeah, of course they would.

Look, I'm not saying conclusively that there is a definitive cause and effect, just that there is correlation and I'm interested to watch it develop. If you ever go to Sixfields, it's remarkable how little negativity there is.

Compare that to The Ricoh and Highfield Road since we got relegated and look at how poor we've been in that period, particularly at home.

I can remember around half of the stadium chanting for Stern John to be sent off when he committed a foul once, and definitely at least one other, can't remember specifically who though. Regularly at The Ricoh, if we weren't 1-0 up after ten minutes there would be a negativity in the air and distress amongst the crowd. For me, our home support has been too quick to voice their dissatisfaction over recent years and it's enjoyable being part of a crowd who don't do this. Whether it has a direct affect on the performance on the pitch remains to be seen...

 

[RPHunt]

I don't understand your lobotomy comment.

Lobotomies were barbaric operations performed, until the 1950s, on those diagnosed as mentally unstable. The effects, on the poor devils subject to the operation, were apathy, passivity, lack of initiative and a decreased depth and intensity of their emotional response to life.

From all accounts, those attending Sixfields are displaying similar effects.

 

[KG7]

Lobotomies were barbaric operations performed, until the 1950s, on those diagnosed as mentally unstable. The effects, on the poor devils subject to the operation, were apathy, passivity, lack of initiative and a decreased depth and intensity of their emotional response to life.

From all accounts, those attending Sixfields are displaying similar effects.

Haha, okay, harsh, and needed an explanation but I see where you're coming from.

I'd say you could put forward a compelling case for apathy, but none of the others.

 

[duffer]

In fairness, I absolutely take the point on this. It could well be that playing without the pressure of even a half-decent crowd, or needing to achieve anything beyond survival, is helping a very young set of players.

If we do start to struggle I suspect that gates wil simply decline even further - it's probably too much of a pain in the arse to get to the place simply to turn up to boo.

There's defintely been a correlation between big crowds and screwing up royally at CCFC, probably since we moved to the Ricoh. Or is that just my perception? I honestly can't remember the last time we did well in front of a big crowd, others perhaps can?

Maybe that's SISU's plan. Once we're playing in the Cov & Central Warks Intermediate 2, in front of a man and his dog, we'll probably win every week.

 

[KG7]

In fairness, I absolutely take the point on this. It could well be that playing without the pressure of even a half-decent crowd, or needing to achieve anything beyond survival, is helping a very young set of players.

If we do start to struggle I suspect that gates wil simply decline even further - it's probably too much of a pain in the arse to get to the place simply to turn up to boo.

There's defintely been a correlation between big crowds and screwing up royally at CCFC, probably since we moved to the Ricoh. Or is that just my perception? I honestly can't remember the last time we did well in front of a big crowd, others perhaps can?

Maybe that's SISU's plan. Once we're playing in the Cov & Central Warks Intermediate 2, in front of a man and his dog, we'll probably win every week.

Wolves 2008? (the one where Westwood saved a pen in the last minute)
Blackburn in the FA Cup when Best scored?

There are a few and it stretched back to Highfield Road too

 

[Monners]

In fairness, I absolutely take the point on this. It could well be that playing without the pressure of even a half-decent crowd, or needing to achieve anything beyond survival, is helping a very young set of players.

If we do start to struggle I suspect that gates wil simply decline even further - it's probably too much of a pain in the arse to get to the place simply to turn up to boo.

There's defintely been a correlation between big crowds and screwing up royally at CCFC, probably since we moved to the Ricoh. Or is that just my perception? I honestly can't remember the last time we did well in front of a big crowd, others perhaps can?

Maybe that's SISU's plan. Once we're playing in the Cov & Central Warks Intermediate 2, in front of a man and his dog, we'll probably win every week.

The "we have nothing to lose" approach as a result of our situation could be working for a young team perhaps.

Last time we did well in front of a significant support - I suppose away would be MK last year. At home - God only knows.

 

[Hobo]

Struggling teams often pick points up on the road rather than at home. Less expectation, less pressure, less people on their backs.

But the best sides/players handle pressure and are motivated by it.

Our youngsters and other players have entertained and got some good results. Progress is still needed and the season could still go either way. But at least they know they have a chance here to show they can make the grade and get playing time under their belts.

 

[skybluefred]

Not for the players, no.

Little crowds mean no pressure.

And no SUPPORT.

 

[skybluefred]

In fairness, I absolutely take the point on this. It could well be that playing without the pressure of even a half-decent crowd, or needing to achieve anything beyond survival, is helping a very young set of players.

If we do start to struggle I suspect that gates wil simply decline even further - it's probably too much of a pain in the arse to get to the place simply to turn up to boo.

There's defintely been a correlation between big crowds and screwing up royally at CCFC, probably since we moved to the Ricoh. Or is that just my perception? I honestly can't remember the last time we did well in front of a big crowd, others perhaps can?

Maybe that's SISU's plan. Once we're playing in the Cov & Central Warks Intermediate 2, in front of a man and his dog, we'll probably win every week.

That might not be so far off--only the dog would go to sleep,which from the sound of things is like the few people who
attend the cobblers ground and are incapable of generating an atmosphere.

 

[WiganSkyBlue]

Playing your home games 34 miles away from home isn't negative?

Playing your home games 34 miles away is ............ err ..................... away, isn't it? :thinking about:

 

[KG7]

That might not be so far off--only the dog would go to sleep,which from the sound of things is like the few people who
attend the cobblers ground and are incapable of generating an atmosphere.

They're not incapable of generating an atmosphere. However, they do choose not to generate a negative one.

 

[georgehudson]

& on sunday, TF will sit smugly with his minders around him with the blessing of JS,
thinking what ?

 

[Nick]

& on sunday, TF will sit smugly with his minders around him with the blessing of JS,
thinking what ?

Look at those fools on the hill probably