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Did she say 'enough is enough'? What's that mean? Sounds like Brexit means Brexit.
Is she going to investigate funding of mosques and faith schools?
Some of the passages in the Qran are 'hate speech ' and are being interpreted by some as a call to indiscriminate murder.
This is unbelievable. It is allowed because of freedom of religion. The hate and bigotry found in holy books would not be allowed if secular people propagated it.
It is time to take away the privileges of religion. As starters their tax status. Why should these haters have tax privileges?
Where is a statement from May condemning murder justified by a wizard in the sky - apparently, according to the perpetrators -?
Their wizard is the same one as May's. They just use a different name. Maybe that's why no one in power wants to attack the belief system that encourages these things.
lifeskyblue
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More prime ministerial than in the rest of her campaign.
Hopefully now words will be followed by actions. Ban sharia law, end school segregation and deal with those who preach or promote hate.
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Sick Boy
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She counts those at the root of the issue as her friends.
And to be fair.... Start the phasing out of all faith schools and give fair warning that religious income will be taxed the same as all other incomes.
It would be great if the queen dropped the title of 'defender of the faith'. That only provokes them and legitimizes religion.
If we are to live together, then we must remove sources of discord. We cannot stop belief, but we can reduce it's power and influence.
Grendel
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Unlike Mr Corbyn of course who ALWAYS has sided with Britains enemies at home and abroad.
What would Corbyn do? Invite the perpetrators found for tea and sandwiches and say "now now don't do it again"
Sick Boy
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This has nothing to do with Corbyn whatsoever.
Until the root of the problem is tackled, it isn't going to stop.
Fair enough if you think it is right for the government to prevent 'sensitive' information entering the public domain relating to the Saudis funding terrorism murdering people on Britain''s streets. Again, if it was Corbyn you'd be mouthing off, I'm sure.
He may take a stand against religion. I hope someone has the balls to admit that there isn't a wizard in the sky and start reducing the influence of religion. The Tory party led by a vicars daughter will never do that.
Grendel
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Brilliant. So the uk becomes an atheist state - meanwhile Islam is practiced still all over the world but the terrorists - and will still here and achieving their objective of closing down Christianity. Smart move.
A secular state. A state which taxes religion and cannot be referred to as a crusader state trying to impose Christianity on others. It is possible to have a secular state whilst allowing religion, but not encouraging or subventioning religion.
We cannot stop the world believing in crap, but we can set ourselves apart from it.
We may even be less of a target by being religiously neutral.
I would treat all religions equally- so not destroying Christianity to replace it with another bullshit religion.
SkyblueBazza
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That doesn't alter anything regarding our dealing with the funding of them by whoever is funding them does it?
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SkyblueBazza
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So we should be dealing with the wahhabist...not the mosque which is where the wider peaceful members of the community go to worship. They don't all become influenced or believe the wahhabists you know? Bit like you probably with Paul Nuttall or whoever
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Grendel
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We don't impose Christianity on others.
It's just another example of our soft approach to the issue. I can't pretend to have interest in religion but the country has a constitutional faith. Erode that and the terror states are starting to achieve their goals.
The indigenous faith should of course have preference and advantages. C of E schools should remain.
SkyblueBazza
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But think about it...if you fully identify the paths the funds take from the beginning to the people that perpetrate these horrors - telling them openly we know who you are simply means they find an alternative route anyway. Knowing the information without publicising it means you can deal with it at various points & disrupt operations. I think they call it itelligence & spies & all that..?
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SkyblueBazza
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The totty!Also, they keep going on about "dont let this affect us", "they wont win" and "stand together". Yet they circulate this
Exactly what you should be looking and thinking at when going for a beer with your mates on a Saturday night. That's showing ISIS again.
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SkyblueBazza
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Excellent! So you agree dialogue is the way forward. Just like Corbyn's stance really, but you've accused him of being a terrorist sympathiser by trying to engage with them? Even knowing that the Tories did exactly that but behind closed doors.
You can't have it all ways G!
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SkyblueBazza
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Yep - that stinks...definitely CENSORED
But again - we can't have it all ways. Our defence industry would suffer greatly...so would jobs, the economy & our way of life. Then the causes that SA are tending to fight in their own back yard which we approve of - we would have to send in our own people or just let them became radical extreme states.
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SkyblueBazza
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A small pocket sized can of deodorant would do enough to permit a swift kick in the nuts. Put some under your arms too while you're at it, Smelly
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SkyblueBazza
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How many so called 'Christians' would actually give a shit though?
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SkyblueBazza
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And of course amongst all of this...Enoch Powell was lambasted for his foresight by the media & liberal leaning powers that be because they only seek power. In our democracy that only comes via the popular vote...so he was dismissed at the time as a fire of hate.
Wonder if those same people given hindsight would have been quite so quick to silence him & work against what he was trying to achieve?
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Wonder if those same people given hindsight would have been quite so quick to silence him & work against what he was trying to achieve?
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A small pocket sized can of deodorant would do enough to permit a swift kick in the nuts. Put some under your arms too while you're at it, Smelly
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Disarm a terrorist and smell good? Sweeeeeeet
Our missionaries followed our traders all over the world and spread Christianity.
The country should dissociate itself from all faith and that means the Queen dropping the title bestowed upon Henry VIII by the pope for his help against Luther's influence.
Their goals are a theocracy. A strong secular state is the safeguard against this. Taking away all religious privileges - especially taxes - is the first step.
Our goal should be to be able to live in peace without having people tell us how to live our lives because they have read an old story book or talk to themselves on a regular basis.
SkyBlue_Bear83
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How long before we hear they have been released without charge?
bringbackrattles
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"Enough is enough." "Be vigilant." " The Muslim religion is a peaceful religion." Three comments we'll be hearing day in and day out now for months/years to come. The first statement needs to be defined by May as what does she mean ? The second one of be vigilant basically means don't relax, and be paranoid when you go out as anything can happen. And the third one has got me thinking : It isn't a peaceful religion at all !
clint van damme
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no. I was talking about trying to negotiate with them.
torchomatic
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Well I thought May's speech this morning was poor. Tories said they were suspending campaign then she makes a highly political speech. A bit late saying we are 'too tolerant", particularly from the person who was HS for six years and PM for a year.
clint van damme
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This guy, and the one from the MET who gave her a similar message were told they were scaremongering - no doubt Corbyns fault.
Sky Blue Pete
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Completely disagree.
Sky Blue Pete
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Gosh military police state here we come!! Not in my name
And where's our shared humanity. They are fleeing what we are experiencing but they've had it far far worse!! Ffs
Shoot to kill?? Ok while it's not us they are targeting or affecting.
Travel bans are sensible and proportionate
You can't add in immediate families. Again let's stick with the rule of law.
First they came for the muslims etc etc
Change laws and act proportionately
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Nick
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What does saying love London etc do against terrorists?