You're back. Are you going to answer the questions asked of you in post #2 now?
I don't care. It's not my job to find a manager - it's the clubs.
And yes managers can overachieve against their budgets and also they can underachieve. That's obvious.
The irony is it is people like me that it impacts the least as I will buy a season ticket. It's people like you - i bet if the club continued to win games after the turn if the year you'd have been to more games. Floating fans are not going that should set alarm bells ringing.
So I fail to see why naming a replacement is of any importance. There will be 60 plus applicants - there always are and I am sure plenty could do a better job.
If I was chairman I'd have sacked him weeks ago and targeted a short impact manager as Rotherham have done and paid a big bonus if they'd got us promoted.
I've been saying for months we were lurching and no one would listen.
We needed promotion - we should have ended this farce a long time ago.
We won't have any short term or long term success while we are being owned by a hedge fund. Neither will be self sufficient. In order to do that, we need a sell out week in week out at least and it isn't going to happen unless we make the Premier league, and to do that, we need investment.
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I don't care. It's not my job to find a manager - it's the clubs.
And yes managers can overachieve against their budgets and also they can underachieve. That's obvious.
The irony is it is people like me that it impacts the least as I will buy a season ticket. It's people like you - i bet if the club continued to win games after the turn if the year you'd have been to more games. Floating fans are not going that should set alarm bells ringing.
So I fail to see why naming a replacement is of any importance. There will be 60 plus applicants - there always are and I am sure plenty could do a better job.
If I was chairman I'd have sacked him weeks ago and targeted a short impact manager as Rotherham have done and paid a big bonus if they'd got us promoted.
I've been saying for months we were lurching and no one would listen.
We needed promotion - we should have ended this farce a long time ago.
So another season has died and ends with a sense of crushing disappointment and anti-climax. All this from a position of strength and dizzy heights in the league which we have not been accustomed to.
There have been so many theories surrounding the demise - some of which are so conspiratorial they are not worthy of scrutiny.
The managerial performance, however, most certainly does. The frequent bickering about budgets really though needs to be looked at rationally. The club was top of the league. Top 6 looked a certainty and a less than average performance post October would still have delivered that. The abject failure to do so cannot be over-looked.
The club decided to appoint a manager who has a higher pedigree than this league. He wanted the structure to be to liking and the backroom staff he wanted. He was given his wish.
He has since October failed to deliver on many counts.
Inflexible team selection
Indulging the Cole Experiment (an unmitigated disaster as predicted)
A plethora of appalling signings who have achieved nothing post January but his permanent signings all in fact look suspect
A refusal to address the goalkeeping issue
Poor use of the budget at the start of the season
Managers fit well at some clubs and some situations. Mowbray seemingly lacks the flexibility and adaptability for this league and his stubborn refusal to adapt does not bode well at all.
The quality of football is poor and defences find us easy to deal with. If this persists relegation is a certainty next year.
Anderson needs to act. Mowbray has not been a victim of the curse of Coventry past. He is not the victim of those ghostsis at all. He has adequate resources. He is the victim of his own shortcomings and intransigence.
He has to go
Grendull in double standards shocker.
It isn't your job to sack the manager either. Funny how we can't shut you up on that given it's not your job.
And then you start chatting shit again. I've been to more games since Xmas than I did before. I'm a fan who goes to as many games as I can a season. I've told you this numerous times before. I'm not precious about which competition, day of the week or form. If I'm available I will go and I will go again this season if only it's for the final home game.
If you're sure plenty of 60 applicants you're expecting could do a better job why can't you name plenty?
Many people agree with me on here that Mowbray needs to go. Yet none offered a successors name.
When Pressley (who performed no worse than Mowbray actually) was hounded on here no one was interested in naming the successor. I did actually say I would like a certain Burton manager but was generally mocked for it.
As for more games since Christmas I suspect it's a case of one game before and Walsall and Burton after - am I right?
How many of the last 3 you going to?
No. As always you are wrong.
Remember when Watford kept changing their managers before settling with their current one ? Troy Deeney was interviewed on Football Focus and asked if it affected the players with all the chopping and changing ? He replied : " No not at all,as we know where to play and what to do and to be honest we don't really bother who's in charge." I thought how honest he was and it got me thinking back then,what does a manager do anyway,as some seem to be clueless and if you know your job you don't need telling do you ?If the manager doesn't really matter and it's all down to budget, why dont we just not have one?
It's not as always though is it?
Your toe curling post after the bury game was as I stated at the time a blip. I said Cole was a disaster - your view "potentially the signing of the season" I said we'd win hardly any games after December if we retained this manager.
The crowds are down people are disaffected. Managers don't recover often and do we really want to waste a summer with the real chance he will fail again as then he will be gone before August is over anyway.
I wonder who said this?
"But you said by his standards of managerial capability he is of league one standard.
I'm sure I am in the minority but I disagree."
Sigh - which is why I mentioned premier league managers who all would fail here.
There is every chance Mowbray will get a job at a championship club - he clearly isn't a league one manager - and hasn't managed to adapt into one.
Sigh - which is why I mentioned premier league managers who all would fail here.
There is every chance Mowbray will get a job at a championship club - he clearly isn't a league one manager - and hasn't managed to adapt into one.
Sigh - which is why I mentioned premier league managers who all would fail here.
There is every chance Mowbray will get a job at a championship club - he clearly isn't a league one manager - and hasn't managed to adapt into one.
I don't care. It's not my job to find a manager - it's the clubs.
Pressley had been in the job almost 2 years by the time he was sacked, it was 18 months of crap before he finally got the chop.I'm still on the fence. The first 18 games were excellent up to and including thrashing Gillingham to go 3 points ahead at the top of the table, but subsequent 23 games are unacceptable:
First 18 W11 D4 L3 GF36 GA19 Pts 37 ppg 2.06
Last 23 W4 D8 L11 GF23 GA26 Pts 20 ppg 0.87
You look at that and you'd say if this was any other manager but Mowbray the fans would be unanimously behind sacking him. Doesn't hello that this has also happened to him twice at Middleborough.
Its also interesting that defensive injuries are being blamed for tbr demise, but looking at the stats we're not conceding that many more now than we did on our great run (1.13 per game now v 1.06 per game), our attack however has well and truly been blunted, especially when we consider 11 of those 23 came in 2 games. It tells me that not only have players lost form, but teams have well and truly worked us outm
I'm really in 2 minds, I'm not overly convinced he can change it around next season but I do want stability, but like I said if this was pressley we'd be pretty much united on wanting him sacked.
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If we keep Mowbray he needs to have the whole season. If he gets his own players and squad pre season, theres no point getting rid in October leaving the club with loads of players a new manager might not want.
The other option is to get rid before the pre season and giving a new manager the "clear slate", but I can't see it happening.
If we keep Mowbray he needs to have the whole season. If he gets his own players and squad pre season, theres no point getting rid in October leaving the club with loads of players a new manager might not want.
The other option is to get rid before the pre season and giving a new manager the "clear slate", but I can't see it happening.
I don't care. It's not my job to find a manager - it's the clubs.
And yes managers can overachieve against their budgets and also they can underachieve. That's obvious.
The irony is it is people like me that it impacts the least as I will buy a season ticket. It's people like you - i bet if the club continued to win games after the turn if the year you'd have been to more games. Floating fans are not going that should set alarm bells ringing.
So I fail to see why naming a replacement is of any importance. There will be 60 plus applicants - there always are and I am sure plenty could do a better job.
If I was chairman I'd have sacked him weeks ago and targeted a short impact manager as Rotherham have done and paid a big bonus if they'd got us promoted.
I've been saying for months we were lurching and no one would listen.
We needed promotion - we should have ended this farce a long time ago.
This goes against your theory:
Brian Clough Derby and Forrest
Shankley Liverpool
Royle Oldham
Ferguson Man United
Saunders Villa
all had mediocre starts and nearly got the sack. But given time gave those teams great successes.
Grendel you are the perfect capitalist demanding immediate results.
And all were in the last century
<snip> If I'd seen evidence of him slowly building a good side ...<snip>
I'm still on the fence. The first 18 games were excellent up to and including thrashing Gillingham to go 3 points ahead at the top of the table, but subsequent 23 games are unacceptable:
First 18 W11 D4 L3 GF36 GA19 Pts 37 ppg 2.06
Last 23 W4 D8 L11 GF23 GA26 Pts 20 ppg 0.87
You look at that and you'd say if this was any other manager but Mowbray the fans would be unanimously behind sacking him. Doesn't hello that this has also happened to him twice at Middleborough.
Its also interesting that defensive injuries are being blamed for tbr demise, but looking at the stats we're not conceding that many more now than we did on our great run (1.13 per game now v 1.06 per game), our attack however has well and truly been blunted, especially when we consider 11 of those 23 came in 2 games. It tells me that not only have players lost form, but teams have well and truly worked us outm
I'm really in 2 minds, I'm not overly convinced he can change it around next season but I do want stability, but like I said if this was pressley we'd be pretty much united on wanting him sacked.
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And all were in the last century
Because thanks to fickle fans like you not many clubs will give managers time to build anything anymore. It's all now now now.
I don't think you can accuse Coventry fans of being fickle. 47 years without a top 6 finish is quite long enough!
Now, if you're talking about Man U fans who are up in arms about finishing 5th after 10+ titles in the last 20 years, or Newcastle fans who think they are the hardest done to, then I take your point.
I don't think you can accuse Coventry fans of being fickle. 47 years without a top 6 finish is quite long enough!
Now, if you're talking about Man U fans who are up in arms about finishing 5th after 10+ titles in the last 20 years, or Newcastle fans who think they are the hardest done to, then I take your point.
Oh, I don't know. The first sign of failure; it's get 'em out, they ain't good enough, and the cycle starts again. Similar to slagging a player off before he even kicks a ball.
Reminds me of the Einstein quote: "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
To be fair Torch, first sign of failure would've been around the Xmas mark or even January. We're now 3 months past that point....
I get the Einstein quote and I agree but how long do we need to drop before action is taken?
I don't disagree with taking action, I do think getting rid of the manager constantly deflects/postpones taking action where it's most needed.
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