Didn't Wilson get injured on New Years Day and was out for 3 months though? He might have gone had he not got injured, no club would sign a player who was out until march. They would much rather wait until the summer and also look at how he recovered from the injury.
no it is not harsh, not anymore harsh than the "perilous career". I think the best way to develop his career is to get real time playing time, his best chance of that is with Coventry City. If he wants to take the money as soon as he can, good luck to him. But I won't morn his departure. Davenport really could have had a career if he had stayed at Coventry another season or two...but he didn't listen to more than one persons advice and that is unfortunate.
it depends if Maddison wants to be potentially, and he does only have potential, be a big player here. Or go for the money at a wealthier club as one of many squad players who have far more game time experience.
i accept it is his career not mine.
Wallace, Babb, Gillespie, Paddon, Mortimer, Holmes, Thomas, Thompson, Blockley, Sealey just off the top of my head and then we can start looking at players careers at other clubs.....
A lot of those are a bit before my time, but Babb I remember well. Are you saying that he had a chance to leave us but stayed and thereby improved his career, because I don't recall that?
It is harsh, because I think there's an implicit criticism here that isn't true. Namely that Maddison is just a money-grabbing bastard if he leaves us, uninterested in making it as a footballer. To me that's entirely without nuance - it disregards the fact that he's in a profession where one serious injury means that he's finished, and that chances like these are rare for a player.
Following the money doesn't mean that he doesn't want to make it as a footballer, it just means that he wants to maximise his earning potential whilst he's got the chance to do so (as do we all, I suspect). As a City fan I'd rather he stayed, but I'd understand if he went.
Let me ask another question, what if he does stay here and doesn't make it as a big player? What if he turns out to be like Nouble, talented but frustrating. Would you be happy with us honouring his contract, or would you advocate dropping him into a bomb-squad in that circumstance? It's just that loyalty isn't a two-way street for many fans...
I don't know where this 5 million figure has come from? We'll be lucky to get 1m for him atm. He's not had a full season yet in league 1, only a handful of appearances mostly from the bench. Callum Wilson who had a full season and was the top scorer in league went for 2m so this 5m figure is just fantasy and will never ever happen based on just 'potential'.
Keep the lad, he's still got 3 more years left in his contract and let him develop here and then maybe in a year or 2 if big clubs come knocking we may be able to get 2m+ if he has done well in that time and starting to show his potential.
Wallace, Babb, Gillespie, Paddon, Mortimer, Holmes, Thomas, Thompson, Blockley, Sealey just off the top of my head and then we can start looking at players careers at other clubs.....
Surely 5 million would just be the first offer though, would have to double that before we gave it any serious thought.
If we receive serious bids for him it'll be interesting to see SISU's stance.
I hope for all our sakes that they've learnt their lesson by flogging Wilson for a measly £3m last summer. Yes hindsight is a wonderful thing but they can't catch a cold with this boy. He is potentially worth £10m, or at least he will be in just a couple of seasons time. That's my opinion anyway.
Selling him for a quick buck to pay further pointless legal fees would really set back the good work they've done in bringing in TM. He's signed a long term contract and had so far achieved nothing. If he does go, the 'head turned' notion simply won't wash. Even Fisher and Waggott would struggle to be bullied by an 18 year old.
Wallace sold to Forest for a million, Babb to Liverpool for £3m, Gillespie to Liverpool, Paddon to Norwich, Mortimer to Vile, Holmes to Spurs, Thomas to Spurs, Thompson to WBA, Blockley to Arsenal, Sealey left for Luton.
The fact is NONE of these players you mention stayed with the club when they had the chance to move on somewhere bigger. Absolutely none. And fans were up in arms about the departure of many of them (Mortimore, Wallace and Garry Thompson in particular). Graham Paddon, by the way, left City after playing five (5) games for ccfc.
Trouble is business is business. 1m now is real and in the bank. 10m in 2 years is imaginary. It depends on potential being fulfilled and him not picking up a career threatening injury. 1m now or 10m/nothing in 2years. I know which I would take.
But if it is a £1M now, how does that take our club forward. Our most valuable asset for £1M. How would we improve the team with that. If Maddison can have a similar impact as Wilson on the team, then success on the pitch generates income through the turnstiles, increased value for the player and excitement for the fans. And promotion would generate greater revenues. I know what I would do.
But they stayed long enough to learn their trade and there was interest in them prior their transfer
But if it is a £1M now, how does that take our club forward? Our most valuable asset for
£1M? How would we improve the team with that. If Maddison can have a similar impact as Wilson on the team, then success on the pitch generates income through the turnstiles, increased value for the player and excitement for the fans. And promotion would generate greater revenues. I know what I would do.
As others have said, he should follow the career path of Callum Wilson. Have a successful year at your home town club, and then move on when you are more mature
and ready to make the step up a league.
Who knows, Madderz could fire us to back to back promotions like Southampton and Bournemouthointlaugh:
Like most of what you said, apart from the £1M bit. With the amount of money knocking about in the Prem, due to Sky, if you have the occasional nugget, you've got to sell it in all it's splendour. Remember Carl Cort a few years ago - Wimbledon held out for £5-£7M IIRC - a donkey and a half, and that was decades ago. If we sell Maddison for circa £2M then we really are crap at doing business. We need to big a player up - look at Callum (now £12M in the papers, and who knows what if several big clubs get involved) - a lot here would have scoffed at that 12 months ago. So if and when he does go we really need to have vision beforehand and make sure we have marketed the hell out of him. That said I want to keep him, and hope we get the loan option back for at least long enough to help us out of this division!
I've not read the whole thread so reading this out of context but where is this 5mil figure coming from? I'm sure you are teasing another poster right? If he goes he'll go for circa 1mil. He is only potential, a player that's not even proved himself in L1.
Dont see the hype myself. A good kid with quick feet and vision. Nothing more than that, yet. I seriously doubt we'd get big money for an unproven league one youngster.
scouts who will push the players agent to turn the players head...
As others have said, he should follow the career path of Callum Wilson. Have a successful year at your home town club, and then move on when you are more mature and ready to make the step up a league.
Can we all calm down, their are numerous clubs looking and will continue looking but for god sake, its newspaper speculation from the Sunday Mirror ( hardly gospel for football transfers).
I think when the phone rings about a player it more than gossip,,to my knowledge the phone call to a club comes after a player has been sounded out. Most players will know whats on offer before calls or bids come in....
Villa are not one of the clubs that have asked about Maddison though as I said newspaper gossip.
So just asking like...how can you speak so confidently that The Mirror report is only speculation & equally so confident that the Villa isn't one of the clubs who have asked about him?Villa are not one of the clubs that have asked about Maddison though as I said newspaper gossip.
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