Viveash gone (23 Viewers)

[Grendel]

Haha I don’t give a shit if they’re ex players or not. I was merely pointing out that Doyle had been tweeted twice in three days. Putting two and two together. There might be nothing in it.

I’d welcome Doyle back as he is, in my opinion, a club legend, relatively new in his coaching career and he clearly loves the club. I also trust that MR would have more insight into his coaching abilities than some troll on SBT.

For most of his time here Doyle was shite

 

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[Evo1883]

Viveash , now godden

Talk of Southgate


No more please

 

[Perennial Lurker]

All we need now is GIMOC to come on with a huge list of conspiracy theories......

 

[ptr]

Heard he was pissed off Robins didn’t invite him on the golfing trip.

Seriously though, it’s too abrupt to just be a revamp of the coaching structure.

 

[fatso]

Can't believe the epic levels of meltdown and bedwetting going on around here today.
Ffs, some of you fannies need to get a grip.

The club have made a change following an end of season "review" does any thick fuck honestly think that MR wasn't asked for his thoughts on that?

Does any one honestly think that big Doug wouldn't give MR exactly what he wanted?

My guess, (only a guess) is that MR wanted fresh ideas and a new set of faces around the place to keep everything moving forward.
I'd suggest that things may have got complacent with AV being here so long.
AV has done brilliantly for us, but now we are aiming for higher than he can deliver.

We are modernising the whole club, so bring it on.

 

[SHUNT31]

For most of his time here Doyle was shite

Played over 300 games across two spells. Must have been well shite.

 

[Hobo]

For most of his time here Doyle was shite

He really wasn't. Spectacular no. But he certainly played his part but certainly not this legend status some think he was.

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

I didnt know Adi was on his bike so this isnt aby ITK, just a chat I've had off the back of ghe news

Basically what has been posted above. His methods are quite old school. They are fantastic at bringing the best out of average players, but don't sit well with your multi million pound signings who have experienced higher levels of training etc. These changes have been made with a look at improving this side of the club and moving into a more modern way of player training and conditioning, which may well work

It's true he evidently didn't get on well with a few of last years new recruits.

He's known the writings on the wall for a while and leaves on his own terms there's no behind the scenes unrest with it other than people are a bit miffed with the way some things are done now. Don't expect to see him become a .manager elsewhere, he isn't interested..

It may well be a good move it may well be shit, but there is one thing I think we should all be worried about and that's Robins. And this is my own personal view....

Robins whole support network that got us to where we are today is now gone. He was very close personally and professionally with Boddy. The same for Dennis Lawrence, and of course we all saw his working relationship with Viveash got us from the pits of despair to now. All those Robins trusted Inherently are now gone. That's what we should be worried about. This revamp may well work a treat, and I'm sure we all hope it does, but I genuinely feel that if we don't get Promoted, or run it extremely close, we may well be sitting here this time next year discussing a new manager.

To be fair that’s understable, King is obviously keen to give robins a chance, but if he isn’t hitting the targets set, then it will be time to move on.
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[SeaSeeEffCee]

All we need now is GIMOC to come on with a huge list of conspiracy theories......

Viveash was sacked because he was controlling the weather?

 

[GaryJones]

Look - Adi is no doubt a brilliant coach and he has done a first class job since he came - he said at the time that he didnt really want to get back into coaching/management but Robins twisted his arm and it worked out well for everyone.
Nothing is forever and this was going to happen sooner or later.
The club are on the up and many thanks must go to Adi for his substantial contribution but now we move onward and upward with someone new.
No need to panic!

 

[Domo]

I didnt know Adi was on his bike so this isnt aby ITK, just a chat I've had off the back of ghe news

Basically what has been posted above. His methods are quite old school. They are fantastic at bringing the best out of average players, but don't sit well with your multi million pound signings who have experienced higher levels of training etc. These changes have been made with a look at improving this side of the club and moving into a more modern way of player training and conditioning, which may well work

It's true he evidently didn't get on well with a few of last years new recruits.

He's known the writings on the wall for a while and leaves on his own terms there's no behind the scenes unrest with it other than people are a bit miffed with the way some things are done now. Don't expect to see him become a .manager elsewhere, he isn't interested..

It may well be a good move it may well be shit, but there is one thing I think we should all be worried about and that's Robins. And this is my own personal view....

Robins whole support network that got us to where we are today is now gone. He was very close personally and professionally with Boddy. The same for Dennis Lawrence, and of course we all saw his working relationship with Viveash got us from the pits of despair to now. All those Robins trusted Inherently are now gone. That's what we should be worried about. This revamp may well work a treat, and I'm sure we all hope it does, but I genuinely feel that if we don't get Promoted, or run it extremely close, we may well be sitting here this time next year discussing a new manager.

surely on a personal level robins is thinking, one more push, get to prem, then cash in, and get a job in a prem side, and know that hes done everything he can to get this club promoted.

 

[TomRad85]

I didnt know Adi was on his bike so this isnt aby ITK, just a chat I've had off the back of ghe news

Basically what has been posted above. His methods are quite old school. They are fantastic at bringing the best out of average players, but don't sit well with your multi million pound signings who have experienced higher levels of training etc. These changes have been made with a look at improving this side of the club and moving into a more modern way of player training and conditioning, which may well work

It's true he evidently didn't get on well with a few of last years new recruits.

He's known the writings on the wall for a while and leaves on his own terms there's no behind the scenes unrest with it other than people are a bit miffed with the way some things are done now. Don't expect to see him become a .manager elsewhere, he isn't interested..

It may well be a good move it may well be shit, but there is one thing I think we should all be worried about and that's Robins. And this is my own personal view....

Robins whole support network that got us to where we are today is now gone. He was very close personally and professionally with Boddy. The same for Dennis Lawrence, and of course we all saw his working relationship with Viveash got us from the pits of despair to now. All those Robins trusted Inherently are now gone. That's what we should be worried about. This revamp may well work a treat, and I'm sure we all hope it does, but I genuinely feel that if we don't get Promoted, or run it extremely close, we may well be sitting here this time next year discussing a new manager.

He's being given all the tools he needs to succeed tbf, we're not the paupers any more. So if he underachieves I'm sure his boss (King) will be asking questions, as anyone's boss would.
That said its not something I want to consider, I'm expecting a very good season.

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[PUSB-We_are_going_up]

The day Robins leaves I will be so upset, Robins is the one piece of continuity we need and he is as much Coventry City as anyone of us now, he genuinely bleeds sky blue and the relationship he has with us as fans has revitalised the club, he is the modern day Jimmy Hill and even when he leaves management I can see him sticking around

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Surely Andy Whing has shown far more potential if its ex players you are interested in?

We also need to replace our championship coaching experience really

 

[SHUNT31]

I didnt know Adi was on his bike so this isnt aby ITK, just a chat I've had off the back of ghe news

Basically what has been posted above. His methods are quite old school. They are fantastic at bringing the best out of average players, but don't sit well with your multi million pound signings who have experienced higher levels of training etc. These changes have been made with a look at improving this side of the club and moving into a more modern way of player training and conditioning, which may well work

It's true he evidently didn't get on well with a few of last years new recruits.

He's known the writings on the wall for a while and leaves on his own terms there's no behind the scenes unrest with it other than people are a bit miffed with the way some things are done now. Don't expect to see him become a .manager elsewhere, he isn't interested..

It may well be a good move it may well be shit, but there is one thing I think we should all be worried about and that's Robins. And this is my own personal view....

Robins whole support network that got us to where we are today is now gone. He was very close personally and professionally with Boddy. The same for Dennis Lawrence, and of course we all saw his working relationship with Viveash got us from the pits of despair to now. All those Robins trusted Inherently are now gone. That's what we should be worried about. This revamp may well work a treat, and I'm sure we all hope it does, but I genuinely feel that if we don't get Promoted, or run it extremely close, we may well be sitting here this time next year discussing a new manager.

Think all of that is fair. I share the same view re MR but also think King would be right to consider a change should we not at least go close this year.

 

[Samo]

I thought there was an undercurrent in MR's remarks re AV in an interview implying that the relationship was not an easy one.
My guess is they've fallen out.

 

[skybluecam]

I didnt know Adi was on his bike so this isnt aby ITK, just a chat I've had off the back of ghe news

Basically what has been posted above. His methods are quite old school. They are fantastic at bringing the best out of average players, but don't sit well with your multi million pound signings who have experienced higher levels of training etc. These changes have been made with a look at improving this side of the club and moving into a more modern way of player training and conditioning, which may well work

It's true he evidently didn't get on well with a few of last years new recruits.

He's known the writings on the wall for a while and leaves on his own terms there's no behind the scenes unrest with it other than people are a bit miffed with the way some things are done now. Don't expect to see him become a .manager elsewhere, he isn't interested..

It may well be a good move it may well be shit, but there is one thing I think we should all be worried about and that's Robins. And this is my own personal view....

Robins whole support network that got us to where we are today is now gone. He was very close personally and professionally with Boddy. The same for Dennis Lawrence, and of course we all saw his working relationship with Viveash got us from the pits of despair to now. All those Robins trusted Inherently are now gone. That's what we should be worried about. This revamp may well work a treat, and I'm sure we all hope it does, but I genuinely feel that if we don't get Promoted, or run it extremely close, we may well be sitting here this time next year discussing a new manager.

And that sounds fair enough to me.

Since King has come in we’ve upgraded almost every facet of the club, only logical to do the same with the coaching staff.

 

[Senior Vick from Alicante]

Nothing lasts forever boys, we don't know who made the decision and it could be that AV made the decision on his own. In the interview he gave to Turner he said he was a private person and it had been a tough decision to join in the first place. Perhaps its just run its course and he's told them if you get the chance in the interview process to get the right staff I'm off. If Robins decides to go its on his terms as well, not that I think he will. The other view is that if you wish to be the best you need the best and you have to trust the club with that.

 

[lewys33]

The way it came across to me was Robins and Adi have had a falling out.

 

[Alkhen]

I didnt know Adi was on his bike so this isnt aby ITK, just a chat I've had off the back of ghe news

Basically what has been posted above. His methods are quite old school. They are fantastic at bringing the best out of average players, but don't sit well with your multi million pound signings who have experienced higher levels of training etc. These changes have been made with a look at improving this side of the club and moving into a more modern way of player training and conditioning, which may well work

It's true he evidently didn't get on well with a few of last years new recruits.

He's known the writings on the wall for a while and leaves on his own terms there's no behind the scenes unrest with it other than people are a bit miffed with the way some things are done now. Don't expect to see him become a .manager elsewhere, he isn't interested..

It may well be a good move it may well be shit, but there is one thing I think we should all be worried about and that's Robins. And this is my own personal view....

Robins whole support network that got us to where we are today is now gone. He was very close personally and professionally with Boddy. The same for Dennis Lawrence, and of course we all saw his working relationship with Viveash got us from the pits of despair to now. All those Robins trusted Inherently are now gone. That's what we should be worried about. This revamp may well work a treat, and I'm sure we all hope it does, but I genuinely feel that if we don't get Promoted, or run it extremely close, we may well be sitting here this time next year discussing a new manager.

Thats reasoned and fair all round, perhaps Adi's time has come up if the quality of players we are going after expect more (or different methods) then we need to move with the times.

Agreed I think it is risky removing all of Robins closest support group especially when most people believe that this coming season provides a massive opportunity to get promoted. Seems a gamble to shake up so much when we didn't really look that far off pace. As you said it might be the exact thing we need though. time will tell.

 

[AFCCOVENTRY]

Maybe this is just a time for evolution of the club. He didn’t expect to be here this long and there are newer and fresher approaches to coaching now. Club is moving forward to compete the best we can and coaching structures you find at well run clubs.

Nobody likes change but we have to step it up to evolve as a club, and there is so much going on behind the scenes to do that. New coaching structure has been identified and 2 good appointments.

 

[JSL]

Didnt Kitching have a ding dong with Adi? Perhaps at £4m, the club took offence to upsetting him. Perhaps there were others?

 

[Winny the Bish]

Unless anyone has any examples of an assistant manager leaving and a team going to shit, I’m not going to worry.

 

[Great_Expectations]

The support network element really shouldn’t be underestimated. In your own roles you’ll have trusted colleagues and staff, imagine them stripped out and a new Boss and relatively new Bosses Boss coming in. Naturally it’ll cause uneasiness.

I know there’s grumblings about MR and it’s guaranteed at some point this season the ‘MR Out’ narrative will be pushed but if he goes too, it is an incredibly big loss.

Change is good but there is such a thing as too much change.

Let’s not collectively shit the bed though, it feels odd and AV has been integral to us, but maybe these changes bring us up that final level.

The key is MR being onboard and maintaining autonomy where it matters.

 

[Perennial Lurker]

Thats reasoned and fair all round, perhaps Adi's time has come up if the quality of players we are going after expect more (or different methods) then we need to move with the times.

Agreed I think it is risky removing all of Robins closest support group especially when most people believe that this coming season provides a massive opportunity to get promoted. Seems a gamble to shake up so much when we didn't really look that far off pace. As you said it might be the exact thing we need though. time will tell.

Why does he need a support group? He's managing a football club not attending AA meetings
I'm sure he would have had a say on the replacements

 

[Hobo]

The article says George Boateng and Rhys Carr have joined the coaching staff with more announcements to follow.

It doesn't say either of those two are a direct replacement for Viveash.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Unless anyone has any examples of an assistant manager leaving and a team going to shit, I’m not going to worry.

Us when Miller left

 

[Broken Hearted Sky Blue]

Think we were starting to flatline

 

[Robinshio]

Surely Andy Whing has shown far more potential if its ex players you are interested in?

not if penalty shoot outs are the issue

 

[letsallsingtogether]

Who's going to do all the fighting now?

 

[PUSB-We_are_going_up]

The article says George Boateng and Rhys Carr have joined the coaching staff with more announcements to follow.

It doesn't say either of those two are a direct replacement for Viveash.

They will be the DL replacements

 

[PUSB-We_are_going_up]

Andy Whing or Michael Doyle for Viveash replacements?

 

[skybluedan]

Adi has been naughty nothing to do with robins he aint going anywhere

 

[Perennial Lurker]

The article says George Boateng and Rhys Carr have joined the coaching staff with more announcements to follow.

It doesn't say either of those two are a direct replacement for Viveash.

I think they both are to be honest , I think the more announcements will be the defensive coach

 

[clint van damme]

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