Waghorn to hudds (1 Viewer)

[Adge]

The right signing at unfortunately the wrong time. Was exactly the right sort of signing we needed with Championship know how when we had not long come back up. Didn’t work out that way and wish him all the best.

 

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[SkyblueDad]

I’ve said it before until his shoulder injury he was okay but with that and a bit of covid he never seemed to get anything like his form back, but I wish him the best.

 

[alexccfc99]

It is nice to see sensible posts like this get the most likes where as stupid ones slatting players get one or two from the usual bellend posters

It’s why I never ever buy the “as long as you give it your all” line when it comes to football

we’ve had many a people who have bust a gut and unfortunately not been upto the grade and have been slagged off for it - As I said as a signing it hasn’t worked but I remember Waghorn getting booed onto the pitch at Hull at the start of this season and it was embarrassing

 

[Johhny Blue]

Nobody on here wanted any of the other offerings did they?

There were a few that didn’t want Gyokores.
Who has the balls to own up?

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

There were a few that didn’t want Gyokores.
Who has the balls to own up?

Very few, which is funny as a lot of those people that didn't are the usual suspects berating other people for their opinions.

SBT has hit the matrix in the last few weeks.

 

[The Philosopher]

There were a few that didn’t want Gyokores.
Who has the balls to own up?

I don’t think there were tbh.

We are a development club with what Boddy described as a “Brentford Model” aspiration.

Most sensible people think that signing a full international in their early 20’s is better than signing a 31 year old with no resale value.

Said it at the time abd will say again:

Strange signing. Never going to get a fee for him and not suited to our style of play.

That said, good luck to him

 

[SkyblueDad]

I don’t think there were tbh.

We are a development club with what Boddy described as a “Brentford Model” aspiration.

Most sensible people think that signing a full international in their early 20’s is better than signing a 31 year old with no resale value.

Said it at the time abd will say again:

Strange signing. Never going to get a fee for him and not suited to our style of play.

That said, good luck to him

While I agree re. Paterson age and little re-sale value wise to get to be a “Brentford “ apart from up and coming decent young players you do need a sprinkle of experience and older heads. Matty James was a good example of that, did well here for a short time, did a job we stayed up and he moved on.

 

[Wyken Sky Blue]

Good luck to him, it's just a signing that hasn't worked out, and I agree with those that have said since he had COVID he hasn't been the same

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[The Philosopher]

Good luck to him, it's just a singing that hasn't worked out, and I agree with those that have said since he had COVID he hasn't been the same

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Wasn’t his singing that let him down

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Has anyone got Waggy's onlyfans?

 

[SIR ERNIE]

Didn't imagine he'd stay in the championship, fully expected a Grimsby or Crewe level club.

 

[ProfessorbyGrace]

It’s a short loan isn’t it? In that case, he may not do that well at Huddersfield, come back here, and be offloaded to a L1 or L2 team.

 

[Skyblueweeman]

Can't believe negativity? He's made 1 million from our club in 2 seasons. He's on half a million per goal..

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Which he deserved when he was playing well. He then got ill and as his employer, the club had a duty of care to pay his wages whilst he was ill and recovering. Like they do with O'Hare, like they do with Godden, like they do with McFadzean etc etc

 

[The Philosopher]

It’s a short loan isn’t it? In that case, he may not do that well at Huddersfield, come back here, and be offloaded to a L1 or L2 team.

It’s until the end of the season when I then think his contract runs out?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Good luck to him, it's just a signing that hasn't worked out, and I agree with those that have said since he had COVID he hasn't been the same

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It’s interesting it’s not his fitness that has dropped it’s his composure and decision making and control and awareness

 

[The Philosopher]

While I agree re. Paterson age and little re-sale value wise to get to be a “Brentford “ apart from up and coming decent young players you do need a sprinkle of experience and older heads. Matty James was a good example of that, did well here for a short time, did a job we stayed up and he moved on.

Matty James was 28/29? when he first joined us and was only short term. We elected to not blow the bank by matching whatever other offer he got. This makes giving a two year older Waghorn a high wage contract for 2 years even more strange.

Some transfers turn out to be bad signings but mostly you can see the logic in taking the risk; Bright - could have been immense had he got his head right, Allasani, Dexter Walters etc could have ended up being McCallum types.

Gyok, Hamer and O’Hare have been great signings - young and sellable - logical signings.

Waghorn? 31? Big contract? Crazy.

 

[Torquay Sky Blue]

Its a possibility that covid could have played a part, he wouldn't be the only pro sportsman impacted long term by getting covid

NHL’s Brandon Sutter says long Covid has sidelined him for entire season

NHL veteran Brandon Sutter says he is still suffering from symptoms of long Covid a year after he first contracted the virus

www.theguardian.com

Long covid my arse.
It's a made up illness used by middle aged women to have time off work

 

[rexo87]

Which he deserved when he was playing well. He then got ill and as his employer, the club had a duty of care to pay his wages whilst he was ill and recovering. Like they do with O'Hare, like they do with Godden, like they do with McFadzean etc etc

You're clinging onto this being ill stuff. Even if it is the case and reason for his decline he scored 1 goal from about 15 appearances before that. And again, excuse my negativity for someone whose cost us £500,000 per goal

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[Speedie's Head]

Long covid my arse.
It's a made up illness used by middle aged women to have time off work

Just because this is a football forum doesn't excuse grossly offensive posts like this one.

 

[Grendel]

Just because this is a football forum doesn't excuse grossly offensive posts like this one.

I think there are some mitigating circumstances for the over the top reaction

 

[Esoterica]

It’s interesting it’s not his fitness that has dropped it’s his composure and decision making and control and awareness

How many consecutive games has he started since this time last year? His control and awareness look fine to me, he doesn’t look sharp around the box and he looks like a player that needs a run of 10 games somewhere. Lack of goals clearly affecting him also judging by his penalty celebration. If he can go to Huddersfield, start a few games, score off his backside early on, then I can see him getting a decent move to a top end L1 club in the summer. There’s still a player in there somewhere, but it’s not going to get unlocked playing a few minutes here and there for us.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I will say during the dreadful opening few months of this season his performances were decent by comparison to certain others. But that injury he picked up against Sheff U seems to have seen to that.

 

[covcity4life]

Good luck to him but this is promising news. January refresh is clearly taking place. And we need it

 

[Old Warwickshire lad]

Long covid my arse.
It's a made up illness used by middle aged women to have time off work

I can assure you it ain’t Jim.

 

[ProfessorbyGrace]

I will say during the dreadful opening few months of this season his performances were decent by comparison to certain others. But that injury he picked up against Sheff U seems to have seen to that.

Yes, Sheff Utd, when he scored the penalty, kicked the hoarding in the throes of celebrating and crocked himself further.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

How many consecutive games has he started since this time last year? His control and awareness look fine to me, he doesn’t look sharp around the box and he looks like a player that needs a run of 10 games somewhere. Lack of goals clearly affecting him also judging by his penalty celebration. If he can go to Huddersfield, start a few games, score off his backside early on, then I can see him getting a decent move to a top end L1 club in the summer. There’s still a player in there somewhere, but it’s not going to get unlocked playing a few minutes here and there for us.

The one thing that has always annoyed is he comes for the ball to feet then spins round and as the ball is played for the run he comes back for the ball to feet and it clouds my balance to everything else about him

The misses Bristol city and Wrexham when clean through sorry the tame shots at the keeper when clean through were symptomatic of lack of composure though equally could be lack of game time I grant you

 

[Esoterica]

The one thing that has always annoyed is he comes for the ball to feet then spins round and as the ball is played for the run he comes back for the ball to feet and it clouds my balance to everything else about him

The misses Bristol city and Wrexham when clean through sorry the tame shots at the keeper when clean through were symptomatic of lack of composure though equally could be lack of game time I grant you

Desperation to score for the 2nd part I think

 

[The Philosopher]

Maybe him going to Huddersfield means we are getting Hudlin in return

satire.

 

[PVA]

How many consecutive games has he started since this time last year? His control and awareness look fine to me, he doesn’t look sharp around the box and he looks like a player that needs a run of 10 games somewhere. Lack of goals clearly affecting him also judging by his penalty celebration. If he can go to Huddersfield, start a few games, score off his backside early on, then I can see him getting a decent move to a top end L1 club in the summer. There’s still a player in there somewhere, but it’s not going to get unlocked playing a few minutes here and there for us.

Whilst I don't disagree with what you're saying, if the best he can hope for is a top end L1 club then he's obviously not good enough for us

 

[SkyblueDad]

The one thing that has always annoyed is he comes for the ball to feet then spins round and as the ball is played for the run he comes back for the ball to feet and it clouds my balance to everything else about him

The misses Bristol city and Wrexham when clean through sorry the tame shots at the keeper when clean through were symptomatic of lack of composure though equally could be lack of game time I grant you

Think you are correct there those two misses were poor and the Wrexham one expensive, not blaming just him for the defeat but that miss certainly contributed to a bad day at the office for us.

 

[Skyblueweeman]

You're clinging onto this being ill stuff. Even if it is the case and reason for his decline he scored 1 goal from about 15 appearances before that. And again, excuse my negativity for someone whose cost us £500,000 per goal

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I'm not clinging...a few posters on here have mentioned it. He obviously hasn't been the same since Covid.

Before then, maybe he didn't smash them in regularly. But he was a great foil for Vik. If I had the time I'd look for those match threads. I suspect the feedback on them is positive and he'd have good ratings.

Heskey didn't score many but was important to Owen.

 

[Danceswithhorses]

Great deal to shift the lavishly paid, zero value, over the hill, Derby reject...well done to whoever at the club, managed to set this deal up.
It was fairly clear that when he was in his final years at Derby, his legs/speed/movement were on a big decline.
Hopefully we have someone lined up to replace him soon (Patterson or A.N.Other?), or our injured duo (Walker and Godden) will be back soonish.
Financially speaking, this is a deal we really couldn't let slip.

 

[PVA]

I'm not clinging...a few posters on here have mentioned it. He obviously hasn't been the same since Covid.

Before then, maybe he didn't smash them in regularly. But he was a great foil for Vik. If I had the time I'd look for those match threads. I suspect the feedback on them is positive and he'd have good ratings.

Heskey didn't score many but was important to Owen.

Heskey still scored at 1 in 4 though. Just being a good foil isn't enough really, you still need goal contributions from your second striker.

Waghorn has 2 in 38. Even Biamou managed 5 in 33.

 

[Skyblueweeman]

Heskey still scored at 1 in 4 though. Just being a good foil isn't enough really, you still need goal contributions from your second striker.

Waghorn has 2 in 38. Even Biamou managed 5 in 33.

I think my point still stands. Before he got Covid, he was still a good partner that got some good stuff out of a raw Gyo.

Given our budgets and owner at the time, he was an OK signing and did OK. Certainly not deserving of some of the nonsense on this thread.

 

[SBT]

Given our budgets and owner at the time, he was an OK signing and did OK.

He’s one of our highest paid players and scored once from open play in two seasons. I’d hate to see what a bad signing looks like.