I think spurs might be ok as it is the first name but West Ham’s ground had a name.
Wasps are finding it difficult because it’s the second name and very few people care about rugby it and they believe they are a big name so will want lots of money
I think spurs might be ok as it is the first name but West Ham’s ground had a name.
Wasps are finding it difficult because it’s the second name and very few people care about rugby it and they believe they are a big name so will want lots of money
Don’t think spurs are having it all their own way either
New Spurs ground could be named the ‘Tottenham Hotspur Stadium’
Daniel Levy gives update on new stadium's naming rights negotiations
Or that the sponsors know there is little value to a stadium sponsor for a rugby team of any level, no doubt they think it’s worth millions were in reality it is almost worthless and there are a lot of costs that the new sponsor will pick up removing the signs and replacing it is a massively costly job.
Nope it’s a fact you hopeless clown
The stadium sponsorship with CCFC there on a long term deal is worth more than CCFC on a short term deal or not there. I think we agree.
Hence if I was sponsoring the stadium I would want to know that is sorted.
CCFC should benefit financially from any sponsorship at the stadium but not until they have committed to a long term deal.
I can't be any clearer, but surely you can see why any potential sponsorship could be delayed both financially and politically?
The argument is lost when you attack the individual rather than details.
That’s because they’ve been looking for a deal in excess of £350 million
You don’t even have a coherent argument
No because individual sponsors would value the offering - you have no concept from a sponsors side how it works. Are you seriously saying Emirates would have delayed the naming rights if arsenal had a tenant which was a 4th tier rugby club whose owners were in dispute. If anything it would enhance the interest as social media hits increase even more.
Wasps demands were laughed out of every boardroom they’ve been in
You’ve been fed a sea of bullshit and it’s drowning you
Which they won’t get, which proves my point. The Olympic stadium has been trying to get a sponsor for over five years now with Vodafone being the latest to pull out of a measly £6M a year deal. Full time premier league club and world famous atheletic venue.
Thats a wish not a plan.
Have you ever wondered what happens to the Ricoh and CCFC if Wasps leave ?
Or do you just want rid and hope that Sisu buy something they
say they can't afford ?
Comical. You've been in the boardroom ?
Arsenal don't need a second tenant, Wasps do.
CCFC can't support the Ricoh it on their own so the art is to get a deal based on the situation that suits both parties.
It's precarious for both and both will only survive if they work together.
Which is an article full of estimates, guess work, supposition,what ifs, what buts and maybes. The headline tells you that on it’s own as Man U don’t offer the opportunity for stadium sponsorship. Meanwhile if you live in the real world it’s a different reality. Take Real Madrid for instance. Comparable in every way with Man U on the world stage yet a proposed sponsor has just pulled out of the naming rights for arguably the worlds most well known stadium. The amount was actually more similar to what Spurs are expecting and no where near the amount in the speculative article you’ve linked claims Man U would be worth. If you have an argument based on FACT not SUPPOSITION come back with it.
With respect your own view is supposition - bit like your attempts on the Eu thread when astute has your trousers down on every occasion.
The author often writes articles in the telegraph. Forgive me but I’m going to value his opinion slightly higher than a pro European remainer who voted ukip.
Nobody can make the Ricoh work with debt attached. Why ACL failed with us as a tenant, why London Wasps will fail.Comical. You've been in the boardroom ?
Arsenal don't need a second tenant, Wasps do.
CCFC can't support the Ricoh it on their own so the art is to get a deal based on the situation that suits both parties.
It's precarious for both and both will only survive if they work together.
No it isn’t. 5 years the Olympic stadium has been trying to attract a sponsor, each time a deal has collapsed before completion and the next potential sponsor has devalued the deal from the previous one. FACT! Spurs are struggling to find a sponsor who will meet their valuation. FACT! Real Madrid’s stadium sponsorship deal has collapsed. FACT! Will there be stadium sponsorship in the future? Absolutely. Will it be for amounts previously paid? The FACTUAL evidence suggests otherwise.
Then just when I don’t need confirmation that you’ve lost the argument you throw in the towel by pulling out the UKIP card.
So if the Olympic stadium was offering naming rights at £10,000 a year there would be no takers.
There is no factual evidence at all that you are offering.
Are you trying to create an argument to deflect from the main subject matter being discussed here?
The stadium sponsorship with CCFC there on a long term deal is worth more than CCFC on a short term deal or not there. I think we agree.
Hence if I was sponsoring the stadium I would want to know that is sorted.
CCFC should benefit financially from any sponsorship at the stadium but not until they have committed to a long term deal.
I can't be any clearer, but surely you can see why any potential sponsorship could be delayed both financially and politically?
You regularly state this as fact but have never explained how we have around 80 clubs who don't share their ground with anyone that don't seem to have a problem yet it would be beyond CCFC.CCFC can't support the Ricoh it on their own
You’re first point only confirms what I’ve been saying. The last deal that collapsed was for £6M a year so yes of course someone would sponsor it for £10k a year. I said in the post you were replying to that stadium sponsorship will continue just not at amounts previously seen. If you try reading and digesting what I’ve said you probably wouldn’t be clambering over yourself to disagree with me by agreeing with me.
Interestingly your speculative article demonstrates it’s bollocks with Stoke also. It claims that stoke would be worth the £6M (that’s the same amount that the Olympic stadium can’t get) when the current amount Stoke gets is £2M south of that.
Again if you actually read what I’ve posted when I originally posted that the bubble has burst this was posted as a negative to Wasps not a positive and not a distraction. It’s a component of their impending downfall and I’m relishing it. You’re problem is your so infatuated with disagreeing with me you lose all context of the point I’m making. Wake up to yourself you idiot. Ironically (maybe that should be moronically) the only person making it a distraction is you yourself.
The race to the bottom continues.......................
Your the one creating an argument Tony and the only one hurling juvenile insults.
I’m more than happy to debate the relative merits or not of stadium sponsorship rights.
We can both draw on our relative experiences in our respective marketing roles.
I would respectfully suggest however that you start a new thread on the topic rather than distract from the matter in hand.
The argument is lost when you attack the individual rather than details.
You may be a JLR employee but this is above your pay grade.
I'm really struggling with the trivial conversation here.
CLUNK. Caller looses the will to live and leaves conversation,
Terry made a measured reply to me which I replied to with a couple of articles pointing out that Spurs aren’t getting it all their own way, which they aren’t. You then wade in without engaging your brain so you’re the one creating the argument. Terry has since made another post which I’ve liked because in the main I agree with it and in the main it makes a lot of the same points I have. If you don’t want an argument keep it buttoned and let adults like me and Terry make the grown up points.
The stadium naming rights is part of the matter in hand you idiot. You’ve actually brought it up more than anyone else on this thread, especially when arguing with Italia. Maybe you should be the one starting another thread.
I’ve said Tony I would engage with you (despite your absurd name calling tirade) if you bought this up on another thread.
I’ve bought it up on here as I’ve known all along that Italias facts as to who the sponsors would be was in fact an untruth - which has turned out to be the case.
You have a strange definition of an adult as you come across most of the time as a spoilt petulant child with issues of low self esteem.
Comical. You've been in the boardroom ?
Arsenal don't need a second tenant, Wasps do.
CCFC can't support the Ricoh it on their own so the art is to get a deal based on the situation that suits both parties.
It's precarious for both and both will only survive if they work together.
Terry made a measured reply to me which I replied to with a couple of articles pointing out that Spurs aren’t getting it all their own way, which they aren’t. You then wade in without engaging your brain so you’re the one creating the argument. Terry has since made another post which I’ve liked because in the main I agree with it and in the main it makes a lot of the same points I have. If you don’t want an argument keep it buttoned and let adults like me and Terry make the grown up points.
The stadium naming rights is part of the matter in hand you idiot. You’ve actually brought it up more than anyone else on this thread, especially when arguing with Italia. Maybe you should be the one starting another thread.
Your in dream world.Nobody can make the Ricoh work with debt attached. Why ACL failed with us as a tenant, why London Wasps will fail.
The only way that stadium will work is when London Wasps go bust the stadium returns to the council. This can then be sold in a package with potential new owners of the club who combine the two together debt free.
Something tells me that CCFC would be in a healthier position had that franchise rugby club not turned up, especially if CCFC had been offered the same deal to buy the Ricoh.
It’s not wrong until a new sponsor is appointed surely.I’ve said Tony I would engage with you (despite your absurd name calling tirade) if you bought this up on another thread.
I’ve bought it up on here as I’ve known all along that Italias facts as to who the sponsors would be was in fact an untruth - which has turned out to be the case.
You have a strange definition of an adult as you come across most of the time as a spoilt petulant child with issues of low self esteem.
None of them are attacking or insulting the individual though.
Ironic.
You must have lost the argument a long time ago. I could post many more from this thread, but this was just in the past day.
It’s not wrong until a new sponsor is appointed surely.
If it’s not Land Rover then I’m wrong.
None of them are attacking or insulting the individual though.
It is above Grendels pay grade.
It was trivial conversation.
I did loose the will to continue.
I’m not a hopeless clown as mentioned.
Although I do have big feet and a red nose.
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