The history of this whole saga tells you that when stuff like this is rumoured and there's no denial, even if not official then through sympathetic media like Bridge, its likely true.Is it clear ? What makes you say that ? ….. perhaps nobody will confirm it because it’s not correct. Although im sure everyone will say im wrong
It wouldn’t directly of course that would be wrong! But if it made the refinancing possible it would amount to the same thing
whether it amounts to the same thing remains to be seen, I’m not in denial just waiting for a clear picture of what it’s for. If it’s for something completely genuinely unforeseen and out of their control then in my opinion its fine. If it’s a back door way of propping up the business then that’s not fine for me either. But it’s all IF’s.
whatever it's for it will contribute to the refinancing of the bond as even if it pays for something else that money can then be redirected to paying the bond holders, (if they do get paid).
But if they haven’t got the money for the ‘something else’ then it’s not redirecting anything. Again speculation
But if they haven’t got the money for the ‘something else’ then it’s not redirecting anything. Again speculation
So if something unforseen comes up in the survey of my house when I remortgage soon I should go and get a grant from the council to fix it... Gotcha
But if they haven’t got the money for the ‘something else’ then it’s not redirecting anything. Again speculation
So if something unforseen comes up in the survey of my house when I remortgage soon I should go and get a grant from the council to fix it... Gotcha
In certain circumstances yes …. Depends on your house and what’s wrong. I’ve had grants to do work to my house in the past ….. asbestos removal springs to mind. The government have flung plenty of tax payers money around over the years to make home improvements and they still are ! So your sarcasm doesn’t really hold water.
@Dubai-Dodger why the fuck do you turn up to post your utter nonsense just after each time the news gets worse for Wasps?
You support a failing club who play in a city that doesn't want them and who have had to beg the WMCA for 13 million quid.
Your nonsense about home improvement grants is at best semi literate.
in a court you consider what’s in front of you it’s not speculation it’s evidence and interpretation of it.
As I’ve said to you on the forum if you go outside and the pavement has puddles on it but the sun is shining you are likely to in your words speculate its been raining - it’s based off what you see. If you conclude a whale has found its way on the street and caused that but was removed in the 15 minutes that you were inside I’d suggest that’s very speculative
With respect Grendal you know F’ all about evidence or how to interpret it.
I’ve seen your puddle analogy before which is great until you discover there’s been a burst water main that’s now been switched off. Of course it could have been raining but don’t always let your eyes deceive youand certainly don’t jump to conclusions because if what you see in front of you.
Remember this ?
With respect Grendal you know F’ all about evidence or how to interpret it.
I’ve seen your puddle analogy before which is great until you discover there’s been a burst water main (not a whale) that’s now been switched off. Of course it could have been raining but don’t always let your eyes deceive youand certainly don’t jump to conclusions because of what you see in front of you.
Remember this ?
good now you seem rattled.
How many times would it be rain on the floor - 90%? 98%?
Can you respond to my points please
Doubt it. Although it would be a good time to ask for a loan off WMCA if that were the case.Someone on another forum mentioned the August 12th deadline (again) is the last day of the Commonwealth games, could this have a bearing as they don't want the stadium operators going into receivership during this time
Your club is basically insolvent, you've not issued the accounts, you've defaulted on the bonds and losing 10m a year, how Wasp are still allowed to trade I don't know.not rattled at all Grendel
You make some very valid points some are factual and I would never deny them. Some are you joining the dots as you often do which is fine. I prefer to wait until we have a complete picture. I’ve certainly never denied Wasps have financial problems. I’ve made no secret of how I now view the complex business tangle that the Rugby club that I support now finds it’s self in. What more do you want me to say ?
Simple question for you Dubai-Dodger. Do you think the attendances Wasps get at the CBS Arena are big enough to secure the clubs near time and longer future?not rattled at all Grendel
You make some very valid points some are factual and I would never deny them. Some are you joining the dots as you often do which is fine. I prefer to wait until we have a complete picture. I’ve certainly never denied Wasps have financial problems. I’ve made no secret of how I now view the complex business tangle that the Rugby club that I support now finds it’s self in. What more do you want me to say ?
Do a bond to raise some funds????Simple question for you Dubai-Dodger. Do you think the attendances Wasps get at the CBS Arena are big enough to secure the clubs near time and longer future?
If not what do you think they can do to remedy this?
Simple question for you Dubai-Dodger. Do you think the attendances Wasps get at the CBS Arena are big enough to secure the clubs near time and longer future?
If not what do you think they can do to remedy this?
After paying back Richardson and paying the the interest out of the initial 35m what was the plan to pay it back, further loans by the look of it which may not happen as the business insolventThe problem is the attendance alone isn’t just the answer as you are aware the rugby is Just a part of a complicated business, so it somewhat depends how the whole business performs. But if you take the attendances alone the way to improve that is to play more constantly, win games and level of support will rise much like many sports.
Your club is basically insolvent, you've not issued the accounts, you've defaulted on the bonds and losing 10m a year, how Wasp are still allowed to trade I don't know.
About as obvious as 2+2=5 but of course it suits your narrative to join the dots.
of course you could be right but the truth is you don’t know any more than I do.
Because people prop them up. Your owner has seemingly reached the bottom of his wallet and you're asking our local government to do it instead.same as many other businesses small and large that lose money, they continue to trade.
The problem is the attendance alone isn’t just the answer as you are aware the rugby is Just a part of a complicated business, so it somewhat depends how the whole business performs. But if you take the attendances alone the way to improve that is to play more constantly, win games and level of support will rise much like many sports.
In certain circumstances yes …. Depends on your house and what’s wrong. I’ve had grants to do work to my house in the past ….. asbestos removal springs to mind. The government have flung plenty of tax payers money around over the years to make home improvements and they still are ! So your sarcasm doesn’t really hold water.
The problem is the attendance alone isn’t just the answer as you are aware the rugby is Just a part of a complicated business, so it somewhat depends how the whole business performs. But if you take the attendances alone the way to improve that is to play more constantly, win games and level of support will rise much like many sports.
Is it clear ? What makes you say that ? ….. perhaps nobody will confirm it because it’s not correct. Although im sure everyone will say im wrong
Neverland more likeHe flew off again yesterday to Pontins.
Doubt a pension fund would be buying into an unregulated product like thisCouldnt some be in pension funds?
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