Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC (27 Viewers)

WestEndAgro · Oct 14, 2022

My excellent reply from Roger Bailey

Dear Steve

Thanks for your email. I am deeply concerned about the situation at the CBS Arena and the impact it may have on Coventry City FC. As such, our group has written to the Leader of the Council this morning with a series of questions about the actions they intend to take to support the football club.

Secondly, I am aware of rumours circulating on social media regarding an urgent meeting this evening. As you suggested, we understand this to be a private meeting of the Labour Group and not a formal council meeting. We will of course look closely at any proposals that come out of that meeting.

It’s worth me pointing out that we have 15 Conservative councillors, to Labour’s 36. We can't stop them from doing anything, but we can, and do, provide an alternative and hold them to account. The rest is down to the electorate. Rest assured that we will be holding them to account for any decision they take.

Kind regards
Roger Bailey

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AndreasB · Oct 14, 2022

SHUNT31 said:
I agree. And it’s quite clear that Simon wasn’t the problem at the time, but it was in fact his employer the Cov Tel. But we all know that.

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That’s true but his book (which was free of editorial control) pedalled the same myths.

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eastwoodsdustman · Oct 14, 2022

Tile Hill Phil said:

I hope he’s looking forward to our home game next week to take his mind off things. He deserves 18000 city fans giving him dogs abuse.

Gynnsthetonic · Oct 14, 2022

So Mondays meeting then is Labour only then a full council meeting on Tuesday

tisza · Oct 14, 2022

Liquid Gold said:
"It's a disgrace to take our P share away, what happened to the rugby family"

You voted to make the Premiership a closed shop. What happened to the rugby family then?

Hypocrites the lot of them. They just want to be treated special because they think they're big time.

It's embarrassing.
Funny when you're on the inside and safe, not so funny when you're one of those outside trying to get back in.
Rugby family, football family all good when it comes to charity things and anything that doesn't cost them money or threaten their income.
Otherwise it's a cut-throat business. Look out for number one. Actions rarely match the (free) words of sympathy.

AOM · Oct 14, 2022

Saddlebrains said:
Are we in a parrallel universe?

Am i that steaming im seeing things?

Or maybe just maybe, has the complete backlash today amongst the tide of opinion across coventry towards the nomadic slint fuckers made the tossers at the council realise by getting into bed with CCFC they can right some wrongs?

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Senior Vick from Alicante · Oct 14, 2022

Liquid Gold said:
How do France/Ireland make a go of it though? Just more interest?

They have outside auditors that have access to monthly accounts and tell them if they are living beyond their means and then recommends the action needed to bring them back in line. Its also reported back to their governing bodies.

joemercersaces · Oct 14, 2022

Grendel said:
people should bombard reeves twitter feed to just give him a taste of tbe strength of feeling

Nosferatu

jordan210 · Oct 14, 2022

SuperFred said:
Wasps kit man suggesting it might not be all doom and gloom over there? I might be reading too much into it.

We all knows they will get a life line from someware.

HuckerbyDublinWhelan · Oct 14, 2022

jordan210 said:
We all knows they will get a life line from someware.

I’m not sure they will, nobody is going to blow 100m on a rugby team

CCFC54321 · Oct 14, 2022

jordan210 said:
We all knows they will get a life line from someware.

I doubt the kit man has any information on what the suits are up to. He’s a bit of a character by what I’ve heard but I doubt he would be in a position to know any information reg bail outs etc.

If he did and I was his employer I’d be pulling him over the coals twittering hints of going on behind the scenes.

hill83 · Oct 14, 2022

Liquid Gold said:
"It's a disgrace to take our P share away, what happened to the rugby family"

You voted to make the Premiership a closed shop. What happened to the rugby family then?

Hypocrites the lot of them. They just want to be treated special because they think they're big time.

I always thought the rugby lot were embarrassingly out of touch gimps anyway from experience. But they really are another level.

“Hello rugby person, what is your favourite sandwich?”

“I DON’T LIKE FOOTBALL”

Always talking about football, even when I’ve not mentioned football and have given no hint of being into football. And for the record I wouldn’t be talking about rugby now if all this nonsense wasn’t going on.

jordan210 · Oct 14, 2022

So wasps fans still as of today have the cheek to call Saracens cheats and then in the next breath want the “rugby family” to save them

hill83 · Oct 14, 2022

jordan210 said:
So wasps fans still as of today have the cheek to call Saracens cheats and then in the next breath want the “rugby family” to save them

Yeah but football players dive and surround the ref

Senior Vick from Alicante · Oct 14, 2022

hill83 said:
I always thought the rugby lot were embarrassingly out of touch gimps anyway from experience. But they really are another level.

By tbe looks of it ffom what i can pick out the P share is the sticking point in the negotiations. The share entitles you to income but you loose it if you enter administration. Potential buyers won't commit unless Wasps retain the P share but will only buy them from administration as it gets rid of the bond issue?

hutch1972 · Oct 14, 2022

SuperFred said:
Wasps kit man suggesting it might not be all doom and gloom over there? I might be reading too much into it.

I wouldn't worry too much, a positive outlook means jack shit when it meets reality.

Grendel · Oct 14, 2022

jordan210 said:
We all knows they will get a life line from someware.

Where?

HuckerbyDublinWhelan · Oct 14, 2022

Senior Vick from Alicante said:
By tbe looks of it ffom what i can pick out the P share is the sticking point in the negotiations. The share entitles you to income but you loose it if you enter administration. Potential buyers won't commit unless Wasps retain the P share but will only buy them from administration as it gets rid of the bond issue?

And that’s the premierships issue - they’re saying that it would be unfair for them to clear their debts then retain the share.

they’ll all start doing it

skyblu3sk · Oct 14, 2022

hutch1972 said:
I wouldn't worry too much, a positive outlook means jack shit when it meets reality.

#everykitmanknows seems to be a regular thing kit men tweet and have done for ages so wouldn't read in to it too much.

tisza · Oct 14, 2022

jordan210 said:
So wasps fans still as of today have the cheek to call Saracens cheats and then in the next breath want the “rugby family” to save them

Been recruiting players whilst knowing they had a huge debt to pay - that they didn't know if they could pay. Cheating Vs dishonesty.
Breaking a salary cap Vs potentially defaulting on huge debt.
As bad as each other

Happy_Martian · Oct 14, 2022

Gynnsthetonic said:
So Mondays meeting then is Labour only then a full council meeting on Tuesday

That seems to be correct based on the tweets today. But then we have another question to ask ... if they were already planning to meet as a party on Monday, why was an emergency meeting called for tonight ? And if there are no plans to financially support Wasps (with or without a U-turn), why the sudden cancellation after the media and the public started responding to it ?

I know I've been wary about adding to conspiracy theories before but these new facts just are not adding up. I can foresee something happening in the next week that we may not like.

rexo87 · Oct 14, 2022

Happy_Martian said:
That seems to be correct based on the tweets today. But then we have another question to ask ... if they were already planning to meet as a party on Monday, why was an emergency meeting called for tonight ? And if there are no plans to financially support Wasps (with or without a U-turn), why the sudden cancellation after the media and the public started responding to it ?

I know I've been wary about adding to conspiracy theories before but these new facts just are not adding up. I can foresee something happening in the next week that we may not like.

I agree. Feel very uneasy about the whole situation. But then why would CCFC agree to a joint statement with the council this evening if Council are in discussions with Wasps about a bail out. Just doesn't add up

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lordy_87 · Oct 14, 2022

torchomatic · Oct 14, 2022

chiefdave said:
Has someone hacked his account? If only someone had pointed out they were being told a pack of lies constantly.

The best one I've seen in the last couple of days is they couldn't ground share with Brentford as the Met wouldn't allow them to move back to London. Personally I have my doubts that the number of police needed for a Wasps game would cause policing in London collapse.

Which is ironic as they were invited to ground share with Brentfors at the new stadium back when it was being planned. They turned the offer down to come to Coventry.

Tommo1993 · Oct 14, 2022

hill83 said:
I always thought the rugby lot were embarrassingly out of touch gimps anyway from experience. But they really are another level.

“Hello rugby person, what is your favourite sandwich?”

“I DON’T LIKE FOOTBALL”

Always talking about football, even when I’ve not mentioned football and have given no hint of being into football. And for the record I wouldn’t be talking about rugby now if all this nonsense wasn’t going on.

Yep. My rugby loving father-in-law will take any opportunity he can to slag off football for no reason.

torchomatic · Oct 14, 2022

Liquid Gold said:
"It's a disgrace to take our P share away, what happened to the rugby family"

You voted to make the Premiership a closed shop. What happened to the rugby family then?

Hypocrites the lot of them. They just want to be treated special because they think they're big time.

Remember when -laughably- Bolton wanted to stop relegation when they were in the Premier League?

Fergusons_Beard · Oct 14, 2022

It’s also worth remembering the hundreds of thousands of pounds paid by the council to that PR firm to push the WASPS move through and discredit the football club.

If I remember rightly they even tried to infiltrate this place at one point and they were very active on the socials shouting down any body with an ounce of sense!

Now THAT was a colossal waste of tax payers money!

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hutch1972 · Oct 14, 2022

Happy_Martian said:
That seems to be correct based on the tweets today. But then we have another question to ask ... if they were already planning to meet as a party on Monday, why was an emergency meeting called for tonight ? And if there are no plans to financially support Wasps (with or without a U-turn), why the sudden cancellation after the media and the public started responding to it ?

I know I've been wary about adding to conspiracy theories before but these new facts just are not adding up. I can foresee something happening in the next week that we may not like.

After Monday they will be in admin and relegated, so they better get their skates on.

jordan210 · Oct 14, 2022

David O'Day · Oct 14, 2022

There was a group meeting of the labour cllrs tonight to discuss the situation

There was never going to be a vote on bailing wasps out

Legohead has added 2 and 2 together and got 5

Terry_dactyl · Oct 14, 2022

David O'Day said:
There was a group meeting of the labour cllrs tonight to discuss the situation

There was never going to be a vote on bailing wasps out

Legohead has added 2 and 2 together and got 5

Ok. But I’d say good that they’re monitored and held to account every step of the way.

Calista · Oct 14, 2022

I hope people aren't over-interpreting the statement of cooperation between CCC and CCFC. Very welcome and refreshing, but to me it just looks like a common sense practical approach to ensure that matches can go ahead in the immediate future. I don't read anything into it about the wider issue of stadium ownership, which would require massive softening of attitudes on both sides.

chiefdave · Oct 14, 2022

Calista said:
I hope people aren't over-interpreting the statement of cooperation between CCC and CCFC. Very welcome and refreshing, but to me it just looks like a common sense practical approach to ensure that matches can go ahead in the immediate future. I don't read anything into it about the wider issue of stadium ownership, which would require massive softening of attitudes on both sides.

Common sense would be a massive improvement over what we've seen in the past.

Liquid Gold · Oct 14, 2022

jordan210 said:

You two fools doing everything you could to make things worse probably, I don't know, made things worse.

Frostie · Oct 15, 2022

tisza said:
Been recruiting players whilst knowing they had a huge debt to pay - that they didn't know if they could pay. Cheating Vs dishonesty.
Breaking a salary cap Vs potentially defaulting on huge debt.
As bad as each other

They have literally zero self awareness.

They have breached the salary cap themselves in the not so distant past too & have actually taken players from Saracens by offering more money than Saracens could pay.

Funnily enough they were one of the biggest dissenting voices about reducing the cap too yet somehow blame that as well.

Wasps boss voices concerns over lowering salary cap

Ahead of their home clash with Leicester Tigers, Wasps head coach Lee Blackett voiced his concerns for the Premiership clubs over the lowering salary cap.

www.planetrugby.com

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