WASPS press conference from the Ricoh at 10am (3 Viewers)

Godiva · Oct 8, 2014

Woodster said:
Which company is the club now, CCFC Holdings?!

Otium.

Rusty Trombone · Oct 8, 2014

stupot07 said:
Agreed. Rent only deal confines us to a league one - championship yoyo club at best.

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That's simply not true.

torchomatic · Oct 8, 2014

They bought the stake for £6.5M and selling for £2.77M. Those poor orphans....

Ashdown · Oct 8, 2014

Godiva said:
BS and lies?
Like ...
'we're here for the long term'
'we may liquidate the club' (ccfc ltd/holding)
'we will move out of the Ricoh'

just to mention 3 previous BS/lies.

All while the legal procedures went through and this fruitless pursuance is ongoing which has put a spanner in all talks and decent relations I don't doubt.

Godiva · Oct 8, 2014

chiefdave said:
They seemed to have no trouble shift assets around as they felt like, sure they could find a way round it. Would essentially be Otium giving Ltd the money and Ltd passing back the 50% stake.

Hmm - not in any way my field of expertize, but wouldn't any money coming into a company being liquidated have to be split to all creditors?

James Smith · Oct 8, 2014

To Sisu, It's not what could have been, It's what should have been. That was our home you numpties and you have let the council sell it out from under you to a Rugby franchise with a bigger distance to watch home matches than we did at Sixfields, which is another disgrace.

I looked at www.waspsnewhome.co.uk and got even more depressed as that should have been us. I hope that you will be communicating with us supporters about the plans for the new stadium as soon as possible, or whatever the master plan is for fixing this fecking mess you've gotten us into.

martcov · Oct 8, 2014

Otis said:
Land Rover director says "We look at Wasps and we see ambition"

City fans say We look at Wasps and go to grab a rolled up newspaper'

i think, and there it is in black and white, would-be sponsors look at the ambition of a club, and that's why I am so against CCFC's continued stance that they are moving to smaller premises somewhere near Coventry = no ambition. That was the pre- Wasps stance, so we cannot blame Wasps for that.

Moff · Oct 8, 2014

torchomatic said:
They bought the stake for £6.5M and selling for £2.77M. Those poor orphans....

I imagine this point is why Dongo isnt posting at present, he must be overcome with grief at how the charity are selling cheaply, and denying those poor children, still at least the Higgs Trust bought Browns Bar so the kids can get a pint in there to drown their sorrows

stupot07 · Oct 8, 2014

Rusty Trombone said:
That's simply not true.

It pretty much is. I know I keep banging on about it, but relegation season, 9 clubs with lower attendances than us, yet our turnover was in the lowest 3-4 in the league.

Rent with no access to revenue restricts us massively, I don't get how you can deny it?

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Ashdown · Oct 8, 2014

'Wasps' written in the seats in lieu of 'The Sky Blues', fucking appalled !! Who would have thought this in 2005 when it opened and a new era dawned !

James Smith · Oct 8, 2014

James Smith said:
To Sisu, It's not what could have been, It's what should have been. That was our home you numpties and you have let the council sell it out from under you to a Rugby franchise with a bigger distance to watch home matches than we did at Sixfields, which is another disgrace.

I looked at www.waspsnewhome.co.uk and got even more depressed as that should have been us. I hope that you will be communicating with us supporters about the plans for the new stadium as soon as possible, or whatever the master plan is for fixing this fecking mess you've gotten us into.

If there is a chance you can buy the Higgs share off Appleton or anyone else at that price then get off your arses and do it. £2.77m sounds bloody cheap to me.

stupot07 · Oct 8, 2014

Ashdown said:
'Wasps' written in the seats in lieu of 'The Sky Blues', fucking appalled !! Who would have thought this in 2005 when it opened and a new era dawned !

Are they changing some of the seats?

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olderskyblue · Oct 8, 2014

torchomatic said:
They bought the stake for £6.5M and selling for £2.77M. Those poor orphans....

It's Browns bar i'm worried about, the price of a pint in there is going to rocket..!!

martcov · Oct 8, 2014

torchomatic said:
They bought the stake for £6.5M and selling for £2.77M. Those poor orphans....

Yes right. Poor city too. Owners played their games - and continue to so. Claimed to have moved on and when CCC moves on, they write an open letter moaning about not being consulted. What tossers. They consulted the fans about Northampton, and then moved anyway. Also bollocks. Things will have to happen now, and the worst case is the official SISU stance of a new stadium. That will never happen IMO and so let's give the deal a chance. Oh, and Wasps fans have my empathy ...... PUSB

olderskyblue · Oct 8, 2014

Hobo said:
She was probably handed the keys by that other two faced bitch Grendel

Grendel's been too busy deleting all his old posts that said no-one else will ever be interested in buying into the Ricoh...

Ashdown · Oct 8, 2014

stupot07 said:
Are they changing some of the seats?

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Check out the Wasps our home website and look under stadium, it indicates that it is highly likely !

Rusty Trombone · Oct 8, 2014

stupot07 said:
It pretty much is. I know I keep banging on about it, but relegation season, 9 clubs with lower attendances than us, yet our turnover was in the lowest 3-4 in the league.

Rent with no access to revenue restricts us massively, I don't get how you can deny it?

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Well if you're saying that a deal where you pay rent but don't get any income is restrictive, then I'm in agreement. But a deal where you're renting does not in itself represent a bad deal with little or no hope. The main way to achieve the demise of the club is to build and finance a new stadium.

The CableGuy · Oct 8, 2014

Rusty Trombone said:
30 days to decide if SISU want the other 50%.

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sp...-news/coventry-city-owners-sisu-still-7902231

Shouldn't take them longer than 30 minutes to decide.

But this is SISU were talking about here.

Hobo · Oct 8, 2014

olderskyblue said:
Grendel's been too busy deleting all his old posts that said no-one else will ever be interested in buying into the Ricoh...

I think he has been working as Larry the Land Rover this morning, he did say it was in marketing and an unskilled post?

stupot07 · Oct 8, 2014

Ashdown said:
Check out the Wasps our home website and look under stadium, it indicates that it is highly likely !

Can't be Otis was adamant that the Councillors made it a condition not to change the seats

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Rusty Trombone · Oct 8, 2014

stupot07 said:
Are they changing some of the seats?

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No, it's just more unnecessary drama being created.

covmark · Oct 8, 2014

Ashdown said:
Check out the Wasps our home website and look under stadium, it indicates that it is highly likely !

Yep, didn't see that the first time I looked at the site. Its a fucking disgrace.

stupot07 · Oct 8, 2014

Rusty Trombone said:
Well if you're saying that a deal where you pay rent but don't get any income is restrictive, then I'm in agreement. But a deal where you're renting does not in itself represent a bad deal with little or no hope. The main way to achieve the demise of the club is to build and finance a new stadium.

That's why I said a rent only deal in my initial post. I can't see wasps giving away matchday revenue to the club, they will be getting 3-4k crowds and will need all the revenue they can get.

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wasps_fan · Oct 8, 2014

Ashdown said:
Check out the Wasps our home website and look under stadium, it indicates that it is highly likely !

I don't know how much comfort it is but it looks like it's as well as rather than in lieu of, Wasps at one end of the pitch and Sky Blues at the other[h=3][/h]

Godiva · Oct 8, 2014

wasps_fan said:
I don't know how much comfort it is but it looks like it's as well as rather than in lieu of, Wasps at one end of the pitch and Sky Blues at the other

The away end - surely.

chiefdave · Oct 8, 2014

stupot07 said:
Are they changing some of the seats?

From the mock up looks like the colours are staying the same, one end spelling Sky Blues, the other Wasps with Ricoh on the longer stand (I can never remember which one is called what!).

Far better prospect than yellow and black seats. On the list of things I'm not happy about with this move that ranks pretty low.

chiefdave · Oct 8, 2014

wasps_fan said:
I don't know how much comfort it is but it looks like it's as well as rather than in lieu of, Wasps at one end of the pitch and Sky Blues at the other

There's a Wasps fan on the board, before you know it Nick will be forced to change the forum to yellow and black

Do they have segregation in Rugby?

Rusty Trombone · Oct 8, 2014

stupot07 said:
That's why I said a rent only deal in my initial post. I can't see wasps giving away matchday revenue to the club, they will be getting 3-4k crowds and will need all the revenue they can get.

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The existing contract agreed by the club and ACL will have to be honoured, so whatever the club were happy with before will continue. If the club want to stay longer they will have to renegotiate, but the latest statements say they want to move then, so there's no worries.

Ashdown · Oct 8, 2014

So CCFC or The 'Sky Blues' is potentially to be removed...................I'm still utterly appalled. I can't imagine what regular London area based Wasps fans must be thinking, for many that will be it for home games I suspect.

stupot07 · Oct 8, 2014

chiefdave said:
From the mock up looks like the colours are staying the same, one end spelling Sky Blues, the other Wasps with Ricoh on the longer stand (I can never remember which one is called what!).

Far better prospect than yellow and black seats. On the list of things I'm not happy about with this move that ranks pretty low.

The seats won't stay sky blue forever.

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chiefdave · Oct 8, 2014

stupot07 said:
The seats won't stay sky blue forever.

I imagine not. No reason to keep them sky blue when we move out to our new ground in a couple of years.

ecky · Oct 8, 2014

Otis said:
BT Sport are here with their cameras. Ann Lucas is called over for an interview and jokes "yesterday was my day! Today isn't about me!"

Why, yesterday did you get a brand new Land Rover?

You serious? That's a disgrace...
Does fisher know? Was that part of the deal or a sweetener

covcity4life · Oct 8, 2014

stupot07 said:
The seats won't stay sky blue forever.

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yup, cant see it staying sky blue.

Sky Blue Dal · Oct 8, 2014

Otis said:
Land Rover director says "We look at Wasps and we see ambition"

Shame we don't have sponsors who feel the same way for CCFC.

xerxes · Oct 8, 2014

A good move for Wasps. The Midlands has a strong rugby tradition and Birmingham has no first class team to support. It is also a good move for the Council and the City. A levelled Ricoh, which was a possibility would have been a shame. I think there is significant growth potential for Rugby in the right locations, and, if they get it right with a successful team I can see them getting 10,000 crowds and more or the games against Leicester and Northampton.

For CCFC, being the junior tenant offers no long term way forwards. When Leicester City and Leicester Tigers looked at doing a deal on the Walkers it broke down because the junior partner lost out.

Northampton Saints will look at this anxiously, as will Leicester Tigers. Both stand to lose attendances from floating support and new support.

The fundamentals remain unchanged. The deal which took us to the Ricoh was a lousy one, with us in the third tier it is even lousier.

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