David O'Day
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I also hope that if ccc have acted illegally with tax payers money there should be action.
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I also hope that if ccc have acted illegally with tax payers money there should be action.If it doesn't go anywhere then there's no action against the council is there? It will only go somewhere if it is deemed it should.
Or they are have fully comied with the no legal action agreement
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If it says no legal action then they have complied. Also I doubt a very rich hedge funds very expensive lawyers would not understand the wording of a legal agreementIt's possible that they thought they'd complied, but that very much depends on the wording of the agreement. In any event I'd argue that not informing the insects of the complaint to the EC at the outset, was a breach of the spirit of the agreement. And whether that's right or not, it's was pretty much guaranteed that Eastwood would see it in those terms.
They have to assess if the same aid would be given to all companies in the same position.Would the EC look at it as - was that deal available to anyone else? Or just wasps - and if so would they deem that unlawful?
Would the EC look at it as - was that deal available to anyone else? Or just wasps - and if so would they deem that unlawful?
Yes if the ec decide state aid was given to help a private company. It's a different legal argument than the court case
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They also have to not distort fair competition,I maybe wrong, but I think that would only be considered a breach of EU law, if it was also offered at significantly less than the market price.
They have to assess if the same aid would be given to all companies in the same position.
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Couldn’t SISU argue that their offer was worth more to the taxpayer then?I think if that’s the case CCC wouldn’t have made the same offer to SISU to buy the Ricoh so they maybe found to have acted illegally
I think if that’s the case CCC wouldn’t have made the same offer to SISU to buy the Ricoh so they maybe found to have acted illegally
If ccc did undervalue the ricoh it is a state sid breach but they can claim an exemptionCouldn’t SISU argue that their offer was worth more to the taxpayer then?
Couldn’t SISU argue that their offer was worth more to the taxpayer then?
Shock horror journalists stick together.
"The idea that any media outlet has ruined the talks that we all thought were leading to a happy resolution is simply ludicrous."
Dint the telegraph reveal the identities of a party who was in talks to buy the club who wanted to remain anonymous ?
Bumsh*te.Don't worry I'll step in.
Good for you, your badge is in the post.
Where was the same offer made?
If it says no legal action then they have complied. Also I doubt a very rich hedge funds very expensive lawyers would not understand the wording of a legal agreement
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My point was that, regardless of the legalities, Sisu took a huge risk by not complying with the spirit of the agreement. Essentially, they had already taken an action in February, which might possibly result in further legal action of some sort. They must've known that Eastwood would very likely walk away from the talks as soon as they realised that Gilbert had tweeted news of their complaint to the EU.
I didn’t say the same offer was made, but if SISU had have made the same or higher offer the council may have acted illegally by selling to Wasps
This was before the agreementMy point was that, regardless of the legalities, Sisu took a huge risk by not complying with the spirit of the agreement. Essentially, they had already taken an action in February, which might possibly result in further legal action of some sort. They must've known that Eastwood would very likely walk away from the talks as soon as they realised that Gilbert had tweeted news of their complaint to the EU.
According to CCC, Sisu made a slightly higher offer, but it was conditional. The insects offer was unconditional and was accepted.
But then could they look at whether the conditions affected the tax payer? If not surely they should have accepted the higher offerAccording to CCC, Sisu made a slightly higher offer, but it was conditional. The insects offer was unconditional and was accepted.
I bet you get a lot of likes on Facebook m8
According to CCC, Sisu made a slightly higher offer, but it was conditional. The insects offer was unconditional and was accepted.
Do you really think Eastwood didn't know until Gilbert said anything?
He's on shaky ground there as he's thrown in questioning journalists with abuse. Nobody is going to condone abuse but surely questioning journalists is fair game. Especially when you're tweeting from a paper known to have had a cosy deal with the council in past to keep things out of the public eye.
Shock horror journalists stick together.
"The idea that any media outlet has ruined the talks that we all thought were leading to a happy resolution is simply ludicrous."
Dint the telegraph reveal the identities of a party who was in talks to buy the club who wanted to remain anonymous ?
That was for Higgs half so won't be covered by state aid.According to CCC, Sisu made a slightly higher offer, but it was conditional. The insects offer was unconditional and was accepted.
Yep, I still don’t get it. Travel all over the country giving money to other clubs but won’t travel to Birmingham (if that’s where we end up), to watch us. I’m not trying to be argumentative, and we’re all obviously entitled to do what we want, I just don’t get the rationale.Right, and who said I was cutting ties to the club altogether? Same as before, everyone will see me at away games but in no way, under no circumstance, will I entertain watching my club play their “home” games out of the City. Fine if you do, you’re probably really chuffed with yourself, but you have to accept there are others with a different outlook on things. Enjoy. See you away.
Yeah but considering the council had a veto on that sale - could that be deemed as control? And therefore indirectly being involvedThat was for Higgs half so won't be covered by state aid.
Haven’t had Facebook for a long time m8
He's on shaky ground there as he's thrown in questioning journalists with abuse. Nobody is going to condone abuse but surely questioning journalists is fair game. Especially when you're tweeting from a paper known to have had a cosy deal with the council in past to keep things out of the public eye.
Surely by then tho we’ve missed the deadline and we’re playing away from the city ?If it doesn't go anywhere then there's no action against the council is there? It will only go somewhere if it is deemed it should.
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