pusbccfc
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Buying a PL package never did and never will guarantee promotion.
I think a lot of that comes from the fact we have 'premier league package' season tickets, loads of noises from Doug and Robins pre season about 'giving it a real go' and making sure we 'start this season properly' yet what we've actually got Is 5 points from 5 games (far from the most difficult run of fixtures we will have this year) no midfield, and 3 halves out of 10 (Oxford + Today) where we've looked a coherent unit.
I've learnt my lesson on panic buttons and I'm far from pressing it, but I think people need to look at the cold hard facts of our start.
We will turn it around I'm sure, but I think 3 seasons on the spin now where we've not got out the blocks wears thin when promises are made
What promises were made mateI think a lot of that comes from the fact we have 'premier league package' season tickets, loads of noises from Doug and Robins pre season about 'giving it a real go' and making sure we 'start this season properly' yet what we've actually got Is 5 points from 5 games (far from the most difficult run of fixtures we will have this year) no midfield, and 3 halves out of 10 (Oxford + Today) where we've looked a coherent unit.
I've learnt my lesson on panic buttons and I'm far from pressing it, but I think people need to look at the cold hard facts of our start.
We will turn it around I'm sure, but I think 3 seasons on the spin now where we've not got out the blocks wears thin when promises are made
Surprisingly, the bulk of the fans in that away end were there during the darkest days.This
Embarrassing how entitled our fans are becoming
Seems to remember hand jobs were mentionedWhat promises were made mate
This
Embarrassing how entitled our fans are becoming
Well…we should’ve scored more yes but Watford should’ve scored a few too.Much better, should have been game over at half time,
It's a calculated riskBuying a PL package never did and never will guarantee promotion.
With respect they said we will give it a go .. we are 41 games short of the endI don’t think it’s entitled, it’s pretty much what Saddle said - DK, and by association MR and the club, have said we’re going to do something, built up that expectation, but then not necessarily actually followed that up by their actions to date
It's a calculated risk
Buying a PL package never did and never will guarantee promotion.
To be fair we are only 3 windows into a massive rebuild after losing 2 of the best players we've had in the last 20 years .I don’t think it’s entitled, it’s pretty much what Saddle said - DK, and by association MR and the club, have said we’re going to do something, built up that expectation, but then not necessarily actually followed that up by their actions to date
they had 1 shot on target first half, we had at least 5 clear cut chances, got to put those awayWell…we should’ve scored more yes but Watford should’ve scored a few too.
We haven't got " no midfield " ?I mean it does tend to point to the fact that you're aim is promotion no?
No other club in the championship has such a ticket
You cannot do that, say the things said pre season, and then be surprised when people are pretty peeved at having no midfield and 5 points from 5, on paper, pretty decent games
We haven't got " no midfield " ?
We are a player short FFS
It's becoming a bit of a problem tbh , loads of divs on twitter all feeding off each other's negativity , loads of divs on here all pretending that a point Watford is a bad thing because we missed 3 great chances .Expected to come on here after a decent away point where people expected us to lose to see some decent reactions.
nah just the usual knobheads moaning
Definitely. I think we all wanted a rise again this year but at the end of the day, though wanted, is not required by the management.To be fair we are only 3 windows into a massive rebuild after losing 2 of the best players we've had in the last 20 years .
Personally I think it's the money spent and the players price tags that have raised expectations among some . It doesn't always guarantee success and I'd much rather a pragmatic owner than an erratic one .
This season's transfer window , the way it ended , has added to the frustration amongst some as well
Exactly this, we have poor starts because weve never started a season without any problems, , Palmer going on the last day leaving us short and our best player and captain missing,cant really judge us after 5 games, I’m just happy to be talking about our league position instead of who’s ground we’re going to be playing at, we’ve come a long way in a short time,To be fair we are only 3 windows into a massive rebuild after losing 2 of the best players we've had in the last 20 years .
Personally I think it's the money spent and the players price tags that have raised expectations among some . It doesn't always guarantee success and I'd much rather a pragmatic owner than an erratic one .
This season's transfer window , the way it ended , has added to the frustration amongst some as well
It's becoming a bit of a problem tbh , loads of divs on twitter all feeding off each other's negativity , loads of divs on here all pretending that a point Watford is a bad thing because we missed 3 great chances .
Tiring
Wether some agree or not , there's a massive amount of entitlement amongst fans atm
But again, I'd say it's not entitlement it's expectations
Expectations created directly from the club, the money spent, the prem packages, the soundbites from both Doug and Robins
And we've manged 1 win out of Oxford, Stoke, Watford, Bristol City and Norwich
We will face a lot better than them 5 over the course of the season.
There are 16-18000 new fans that have brought into it since we fucked Sisu off
They have brought into it off the back of expectation..nowhere to be seen 3 or 4 years ago. That's the issue for me, not entitlement
They missed their chances badly.they had 1 shot on target first half, we had at least 5 clear cut chances, got to put those away
With respect they said we will give it a go .. we are 41 games short of the end
Saying you will give it a go isn't saying we will win the league and get promoted
its a public forum where everyone is free to voice their opinions. No need to criticize fellow posters if you don’t agree or don’t like what I say. I wish the team was as fired up as you to silence their critics.You are fucking clueless, stick to NFL you American bellend
Perhaps partly the new intake of fans, but the chairman himself has set his stall out and an enormous amount has been spent.Said it for a while now . Wonder if it's the newer fans as most of the fan base around my age (early 50s) seem more pragmatic about things
Does seem a bit of a same old start, this game was probably the hardest out the lot and it’s the best we’ve played and should of won, but Your spot on, these new fans prob expect a bit more than the ones have been through all the shit years, just need to be a bit patient but think the club haven’t helped either, but to be fair theyv’e only ever said we’re aiming for play offs and we won’t be far off this seasonBut again, I'd say it's not entitlement it's expectations
Expectations created directly from the club, the money spent, the prem packages, the soundbites from both Doug and Robins
And we've manged 1 win out of Oxford, Stoke, Watford, Bristol City and Norwich
We will face a lot better than them 5 over the course of the season.
There are 16-18000 new fans that have brought into it since we fucked Sisu off
They have brought into it off the back of expectation..nowhere to be seen 3 or 4 years ago. That's the issue for me, not entitlement
Btw I don't particularly agree with the prices of the game against spurs etc .. but for some fans to boo the doug king song today shows how many little weirdos we have following us .
They deserve sisu
You managed it long before points were invented .Seems folk turn into bellends at 1400 points
Was that why they were booing? While they had paid £35 for a ticket at Watford?
I mean it does tend to point to the fact that you're aim is promotion no?
No other club in the championship has such a ticket
You cannot do that, say the things said pre season, and then be surprised when people are pretty peeved at having no midfield and 5 points from 5, on paper, pretty decent games
As I say, I think we'll turn it around, when Sheaf comes back he can hopefully stay injury free until at least January, and he will I'm sure be the missing link, and the wins will flow
I'm just saying people can't sit and take the moral high ground about fans expectations when the club themselves have been banging that tune for a while now
Was that why they were booing? While they had paid £35 for a ticket at Watford?
Don't get me wrong, I've always said the song is weird.
After humping Everton pre-season it does feel like someone's let the air out the tyres
Thats not pessimism, just the way it feels at mo
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