Evo1883
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Too long ? Jesus frank doesn't have much time then
We would have been better off with Robins (4 Viewers)
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RobinsSkyBlues
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Agreement yes. Choice no.
Should Robins have kept saying no to players because they were not giving him the players he would have chosen? We already started the season without cover for all positions yet brought in a striker we didn't need. Did we bring him in only because he was the top scorer for WBA last season?
Chris1987
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Maybe but truly we will never know
Evo1883
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Robins did achieve a 75 point season at Rotherham without adi viveash too .. he wasn't a completely shit manager mate
Chris1987
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In my opinion it was more than 14 games Evo . Yes there were extenuating circumstances but the form at the end of last season was terrible with the exception of the Cup games. There was a Eureka moment last season at Preston away when tactics changed but Adi was still on the scene then. There were no signs of a similar moment this season. We will always disagree on this but the only thing that matters now is the future. We will see in time whether what he have now is an improvement
Chris1987
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Come on Evo . Where have I ever said he was shit ? You've made that up to suit your argument.
Evo1883
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The form was 6 games mate , I've been over this many times
Chris1987
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Yes you have but it my opinion it's not 6 games it goes longer . It was the manner of the performances that suggested nothing was improving
Grendel
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Well he has no responsibility for signings, doesn’t get hugely involved in coaching, isn’t responsible for motivation - what was Robins responsible for?
Evo1883
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The form leading upto the last 6 games last season was won 6 drew 1 lost 3 .. that's 1.9 ppg .
We then played 3 teams that finished in the top 7 from the last 6 and 2 were promoted , our squad was fucked .
The end of last season being used is really really clutching
I'm not being argumentative I'm being reasonable
Grendel
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Conveniently using selective periods of this season isn’t being reasonable. Also you’ve looked at results since which have been against a lot of top 7 sides. You are being hugely selective
Evo1883
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I hope you enjoy the years to come , as much as you enjoyed the years before him ..
I'm sure you will
Evo1883
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What on earth does any of this mean ? Il happily pull your argument apart all night no issue .. go
Grendel
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Most of the years of success were winning in trophies we can no longer win. Robins hasn’t had any trophy achievement than any other manager in the last 60 years
Evo1883
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Sound john sillet achieved more than jimmy hill .. cheers
Grendel
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Our last 6 games under Robins achieved 7 points and was exactly the same as his ratio over the whole season.
Since his departure our fixtures have included games against 3 of the top 7 teams and Millwall who were unbeaten in 9
Grendel
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He did as did other managers achieving survival in the biggest league at the time
Evo1883
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I'm talking to chris about the end of last season? Have you had a drink mate
Evo1883
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Chris1987
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So in the last 8 games of last season a record of W1 D1 L6 is acceptable? Come on now
Grendel
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No - many people - including you - cite two wins as evidence he was turning it round. It meant we managed to scrape a pathetic 7 points out of 6 games
Evo1883
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No chris but against hull haji wright and simms couldn't start because they were fucked , against Southampton away we were bringing on academy graduates .
Fans love a good waffle don't they
Grendel
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What insane nonsense
Gordon Strachan , phil neil etc achieved more than jimmy hill
I doubt robins would have achieved what Gordon Milne did.
Grendel
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So our results since Haji was injured can be excused? The same player robins saw fit to leave out of 33% of game time when he was manager?
Evo1883
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Why are You swerving traffic I'm specifically talking to chris about the end of last season .. and you've come in and started moving the argument ? Why did you even but in ?
Chris1987
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So its excusable to lose to the sides you are competing against for a play off spot ? Precisely the opposite applies
Evo1883
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Grendel mark robins achieved a promotion and championship survival whilst groundsharing mate
Chris1987
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So is that not a recruitment issue ? Who sanctioned the squad back up signings ?
Evo1883
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we started without 3 of our best players as they weren't match fit ffs what's wrong with you
Sick Boy
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This is hilarious.Youd have had a job sacking him during the playoff run
Robins is an unusual manager being here for six years when King arrived. He was basically unsackable. Just saying it’s rare an owner comes in and gets on with the people there. New toy, they want their people, just personality clashes, whatever.
When Sisu decided to sell up it was probably always the beginning of the end for robins.
So he had planned to sack him as soon as he joined but waited for nearly two whole seasons worth of games to do it rather than at the earliest sign of trouble/poor form last season.
Right.
Frankly_Mr_Shankly
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Was Steve Taylor his number 2 then?
Chris1987
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And other sides didn't have the same problem throughout the season? Come on Evo . Ffs what's wrong with you that you refuse to consider a level playing field over the duration of a whole season.
Grendel
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I’ve said adversity management was his strength as the only other club he did well at was Rotherham
TomRad85
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And gave him and his assistant new contracts plus tens of millions in transfer funds. Does seem rather far fetched doesn't it.