Weight and working out (2 Viewers)

Captain Dart said:

I love your trust in medical 'science' based on little or no research.

Severe side effects of GLP-1 drugs (e.g., Ozempic) sourced from 16 million patient’s medical records found that the drugs were strongly linked to a variety of side effects that frequently required hospitalization. Specifically, when compared to another weight loss combination not typically associated with these effects, GLP-1 users were found to have:

• 9.09 times greater risk of pancreatitis
• 4.22 times greater risk of bowel obstruction
• 3.67 times greater risk of gastroparesis (which means you can barely eat because the stomach is constantly full—and in many cases after Ozempic, ends up being permanent)
• 1.48 times greater risk of biliary disease (e.g., painful gallstones)

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2810542

Adverse events acknowledged within a trial sponsored by Ozempic’s manufacturer:
Table 3 Adverse events

In addition to lawsuits being filed against Ozempic for gastrointestinal disorders such as gastroparesis, lawsuits are also emerging for other severe conditions such as vision loss. Likewise, evidence is now emerging linking Ozempic to an increased risk of suicidal ideation (e.g., a 45% increase has been observed). Animal experiments are showing it distorts the architecture of the small intestine (which can lead to poor nutrient absorption or chronic intestinal obstructions), and many of the GLP-1 drug labels state the drugs may be linked to thyroid cancer.

So good luck with your health and weight loss efforts but don't say you never knew there could be bad side effects of using semaglutide/ozempic.

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fernandopartridge said:

Aren't some of those issues not potential consequences of long term obesity?

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chiefdave said:

Do you think people don't research things or look into the risk before signing up? You may be shocked to learn that you're not the only person in the world that knows how to google.

The people the NHS, some of whom were featured on the program I'm guessing you haven't watched, recommend these drugs for have multiple life long medical conditions caused by their weight so even if all those things you say are correct you have to balance them against the benefits.

No drug is risk free. But if we took the approach that nothing with any potential for side effects should be considered we'd basically have no treatment for anything.

Out of interest do you think diabetics should cease their treatment or is it only people using semaglutide for weight loss you have an issue with?

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chiefdave said:

Obesity leads to significantly increased risk of pancreatitis, gastroparesis and gallstones alongside many other things.

Obesity itself is not really considered a significant issue for bowel obstruction however any obese person losing significant weight is at increased risk no matter what the method of weightloss is.

If you're stating that as a reason not to use these treatments you're essentially saying to people they should remain obese as there is risk associated with losing weight. Of course any medical professional would tell you that's absolute nonsense and the benefits far override the risk.

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Captain Dart said:

I am not a Doctor so why would I advise any medical treatment, I do my own research out of curiosity and self interest.

There you go making assumptions about my Googling everything, you should read the recent book by Gary Taubes on Diabetes, it's very comprehensive and there is the older work by Dr Bernstein that relates his life work on diabetes.

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Captain Dart said:

Is that your best response, no data, no facts just a nonsensical critique of style. Rather poor.

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shmmeee said:

Nothing to do with style. You don’t trust medical experts whose job it is to analyse the evidence, but think you can cherry pick the evidence to disprove it.

You’re just like every weird anti science nut. See your anti vax stuff. It’s all the same mistakes every time.

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Captain Dart said:

LOL, do you actually think companies trying to sell you drugs are 100% honest and ethical, that's so naive.

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chiefdave said:

Obesity leads to significantly increased risk of pancreatitis, gastroparesis and gallstones alongside many other things.

Obesity itself is not really considered a significant issue for bowel obstruction however any obese person losing significant weight is at increased risk no matter what the method of weightloss is.

If you're stating that as a reason not to use these treatments you're essentially saying to people they should remain obese as there is risk associated with losing weight. Of course any medical professional would tell you that's absolute nonsense and the benefits far override the risk.

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