Not what I meant. What was the biggest restriction to having the unencumbered freehold? Who made the claim anyway?
Not what I meant. What was the biggest restriction to having the unencumbered freehold? Who made the claim anyway?
Yeah. Its still that SISU couldn't afford it.
Thats the straight answer to the straight question. If you didn't want a straight answer you shouldn't have asked straight question.
At the end of the day the fact remains that our owners have NEVER MADE ANY OFFER.......get that through your thick skull please. Even the offer to Higgs was "conditional", upon what exactly I have no idea.4th post down does it for me.
The team nor the club were/are the issue - I think it is more likely the team/club's owners attitude & approach to gaining the deal that is acceptable to them (& bugger anyone else) that is the issue.So you don't think the council should hold a team that has been historically linked to our city for over a hundred years, in at least the same regard as a franchise out of town rugby club.
What wasps were willing to pay should have been offered to Ccfc.
A quick phone call saying, "look, Wasps are willing to pay this amount, will you match it".
If Sisu said no then fair do's. To not offer the same deal is disgraceful imo.
At the end of the day the fact remains that our owners have NEVER MADE ANY OFFER.......get that through your thick skull please. Even the offer to Higgs was "conditional", upon what exactly I have no idea.
It doesn't say "the club's contribute just over £1m" at all !!!............It says..they contribute OVER £1m.....
Not what I meant. What was the biggest restriction to having the unencumbered freehold? Who made the claim anyway?
At the end of the day the fact remains that our owners have NEVER MADE ANY OFFER .......get that through your thick skull please.
Even the offer to Higgs was "conditional", upon what exactly I have no idea.
Errrr....?
I think you'll find every single offer is conditional in some way. Conditional in terms of what you are prepared to pay. It seems in the end what Wasps were prepared to pay for the whole package was less than what SISU were.
What £5 million I think they could
What was the biggest obstacle to having that freehold in your view?
Not what I meant. What was the biggest restriction to having the unencumbered freehold? Who made the claim anyway?
Who said it is unencumbered freehold or nothing?
Well you clearly are really thick. First they never made an offer and then they did.
Make your mind up Perry Mason.
Grendel, quick question. Conn says that he asked Tim if he would accepted the same deal as Wasps. He said no, as the loan would have to be repaid. Which amongst other things confirms that Tim also sees the loan as a part of the purchase cost - albeit to be paid from profits over 20 years. What would be the point of offering SISU the same deal as Wasps? They repeated often enough that they were building a stadium and pursuing a JR against the vendors. That comment as, confirmed on Conn's twitter account, proves that SISU aren't interested in the Ricoh at the 19m price tag. Would you see that as the end of the discussion on whether or not the same deal was offered to SISU as they didn't want that deal anyway?
That comment as, confirmed on Conn's twitter account, proves that SISU aren't interested in the Ricoh at the 19m price tag. Would you see that as the end of the discussion on whether or not the same deal was offered to SISU as they didn't want that deal anyway?
Please in that article show me where he says no and how that quote actually related directly to that question.
Not in his article. He was asked about it by someone on here and someone posted the twitter conversation on here ( thread about article ). It relates to the question in as far as it makes the question absolutely pointless.
It's amazing that a very simple question that just requires a yes / no answer has generated hundreds of posts across various threads from people desperately trying to defend the council without being able say they did actually offer the same deal to CCFC that they offered to Wasps.
I would suggest that if the answer to the question was yes we would have had a statement to that effect long ago from CCC or at the very least they would have got it out via the Telegraph or CWR.
The offer to Higgs was for their share NOT for the Ricoh......idiotWell you clearly are really thick. First they never made an offer and then they did.
Make your mind up Perry Mason.
The offer to Higgs was for their share NOT for the Ricoh......idiot
Exactly the answer is no.
So Petrocelli are you now saying wasps own the Ricoh and agree with me they have effectively the freehold?
I have read it properly my friend....I never said they didn't "Jointly pay"...I quoted you on you saying "Just over £1m" When it says "Over £1m. Which could be anything up to £2mNo, you obviously haven't read it properly: The £27m Liberty Stadium was built in 2005 with the Swans and the Ospreys both playing there. The clubs pay a peppercorn rent to the Swansea Stadium Management Company (SSMC) - a body running the stadium which is a partnership between the council and the two clubs. The clubs also contribute over £1m a year to the running costs of the stadium with any profit made being returned to the teams and the local authority. It quite clearly says "the clubs", ie suggests that between them. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - so please excuse any spelling or grammar errors
I love how when it suits an argument Fisher, who apparently never tells the truth, has his word taken as gospel.
FFS lads its Christmas Eve can't we drop this constant tWasps/ACL/Higgs/council/ joy/Anne/ SISU they said this/thar shite for one night
The buffoon just won't give in.ointlaugh:
I know - will you stop next year? Looking forward to the Sale game - I assume you got freebies - if not PM me and you can even get corporate hospitality which to be fair has always been up there with premier league clubs at the Ricoh
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