Sick Boy
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Even 20 years ago it was essentially sit where you like, it was probably easier then though because we only used to take around 800 away usually.
Even 20 years ago it was essentially sit where you like, it was probably easier then though because we only used to take around 800 away usually.What if you are old? Or infirm? Can't stand for any long periods because of bad legs etc.
Surely if you have a seat that is allocated to you and you wish to sit in that seat, you should be able to sit in that seat and not have your view blocked.
So glad I stopped going to away matches a few years ago, if that's what it's like now.
It's a very selfish attitude I would say
Yeah, much, much easier, when there's loads and loads of free seats and hardly anyone there isn't it.Even 20 years ago it was essentially sit where you like, it was probably easier then though because we only used to take around 800 away usually.
My only tip for those wishing to avoid this is try to choose seats furthest away from the opposition fans. The empty heads normally want to ignore the match and hurl abuse at the opposition fans so if you avoid that area it’s normally a good start.
A couple of games last season I saw people basically planting their children in some seats and then going ‘what, you’re going to move a kid?’ when the correct seat holder arrives. Puts the children in a really awkward situation but because it works they’ll keep doing it.This sums up the attitude of Cam and those like him perfectly, "But unless you have a genuine reason to want a specific seat I think you should just get on with it and find another space if someone has taken yours".
They basically couldn't give a fuck about anyone but themselves. I would think a "genuine reason" to sit in a specific seat is that is the seat you paid for and the one on your ticket. Wankers.
Correct.Don't understand how it's a discussion. Sit in the seat that's printed on your ticket you fucking savages.
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FFS. Are you for real? “If you’re short…”. Why should short people be shoved at the front? Where does it end? Who else do you think we should put down the front?
It always is a free-for-all at away games. People not being able to buy with friends outside of points bands is possibly exacerbating the issue because you’ll have big groups people going to matches together but dotted over the place.Then sit in your allocated seat. Worst thing at away games is people standing in gangways in multiple numbers or turning up at 5 minutes to kick off wandering around trying to find a seat.
Have you ever actually tried to politely ask someone to move slightly or even swap seats /vantage point?Reminds me of when Mrs WM and I went to see Noel Gallagher at Pompey Guildhall earlier in the year. She's shorter than me.
We get to the gig and a couple of songs in we find a good vantage point where we've got a good view of the main man and the stage. These two fellas, must both be over 6ft, then walk next to us, take a good look at us and then f&*king stand in front of us?! I was like 'are you f*&king kidding me?!'.
They had the right to stand where the wanted but no manners - they could've stood behind us so we could still see.
Slightly different to matches - you get your seat number, you sit in that seat. It's not hard.
I'm hoping to take my boy to his first match before Xmas. The logical one is Pompey away just before Xmas but I won't be taking him to an away game for a few years for all the reasons mentioned on this thread.
I just don't get some people and their need to be stupid/rude.
…how many away matches have you been to?
You never get a choice of seat. You just get allocated one. And unless you link accounts and buy multiple tickets in one transaction it’s impossible to get seats next to each other. It’s understandable why people move around.
That's hardly a genuine reason it it though.This sums up the attitude of Cam and those like him perfectly, "But unless you have a genuine reason to want a specific seat I think you should just get on with it and find another space if someone has taken yours".
They basically couldn't give a fuck about anyone but themselves. I would think a "genuine reason" to sit in a specific seat is that it is the seat you paid for and the one on your ticket. Wankers.
Why does this apply to football but not any other event?There are several good reasons why people are unable to buy tickets together but will want to stand together.
Because football isn't just any other event.Why does this apply to football but not any other event?
I have a group of people I go to gigs with, the group is larger than the usual limit for buying tickets in one transaction so we buy our own tickets and end up sat in different parts of the venue. We meet up pre-gig and post-gig.
It wouldn't even cross my mind to go into the gig, all sit together and tell other people to sit anywhere they can find a seat but for some reason we have a group of people who think this is perfectly reasonable behaviour when it comes to football.
Is it because when some people started going to away games there was little interest so it really made no difference if you sat where you like? Very different now with pretty much every game sold out. Does the number of posts on this thread from people saying they are stopping going to games because of this behaviour not make anyone reconsider?
Regulation probably m theI always want to sit in my own seat, mainly because I go with a supporters group and we get our seats together.
I tend to get to my seat half an hour before the match, and ime the tanked up "I sit where I want" brigade tend to wait until the last minute so it's not usually a problem.
It did feel to me like there'd been a massive culture shift between the Blackburn away in May and the Stoke away last month. It was okay until half-time, at which point it just became utter bedlam. I went for a pint and came back to find a couple of guys had decided they wanted my seat and were having a fracas with my friends who were telling them they couldn't have it.
I don't think anything will ever stop me from going to away games, but I do think it's getting worse and I don't see how it can be made better.
It seems that tackling the drinking and drug use would go a long wayI always want to sit in my own seat, mainly because I go with a supporters group and we get our seats together.
I tend to get to my seat half an hour before the match, and ime the tanked up "I sit where I want" brigade tend to wait until the last minute so it's not usually a problem.
It did feel to me like there'd been a massive culture shift between the Blackburn away in May and the Stoke away last month. It was okay until half-time, at which point it just became utter bedlam. I went for a pint and came back to find a couple of guys had decided they wanted my seat and were having a fracas with my friends who were telling them they couldn't have it.
I don't think anything will ever stop me from going to away games, but I do think it's getting worse and I don't see how it can be made better.
This sums up the attitude of Cam and those like him perfectly, "But unless you have a genuine reason to want a specific seat I think you should just get on with it and find another space if someone has taken yours".
They basically couldn't give a fuck about anyone but themselves. I would think a "genuine reason" to sit in a specific seat is that it is the seat you paid for and the one on your ticket. Wankers.
Have you ever actually tried to politely ask someone to move slightly or even swap seats /vantage point?
I’m quite tall and try to mindful if I’m in people’s way but unfortunately, there’s no eyes in the back of my head to always notice if I’m in the way.
Why should that be the case? I can't imagine any safety group or event planner going 'well its football so the rules don't apply. Just let them do what they want and cross your fingers there's no issues'.Because football isn't just any other event.
There's no irony. If you're a c**t then you're a c**t. And, I have to say, you seem like a c**t who has total disregard for anyone else.That's hardly a genuine reason it it though.
Quite ironic people keep calling me names over this.
I've made my point and I don't think it's unreasonable. There are several good reasons why people are unable to buy tickets together but will want to stand together. Of course, if I was in someone else's seat and they ask I would move. But I would never bother if it was me, I'd just find another seat, and I think you should be prepared for that kind of thing to happen if you are travelling away.
Reasonable debate vs blindly calling anyone with a different opinion a c**t, wonder which is more productive.There's no irony. If you're a c**t then you're a c**t. And, I have to say, you seem like a c**t who has total disregard for anyone else.
Exactly. It's not difficult. Search again. I do it all the time. When we got Leeds tickets last week it kept giving me restricted view tickets. I just searched again five or six times until I got seats I was happy with. Not too near the front and not too near the back.Yer, that's not strictly true. If you hit the 'Search again' option, it'll present you with another available seat. For Southampton away last season I kept clicking that until It offered a seat near the back on the end of the aisle and I try this for all away games.
So yes, I'd very much like my boy and I to have the view that I've bought and no it isn't our 'first away day hahaha' if I ask someone to move.
My only tip for those wishing to avoid this is try to choose seats furthest away from the opposition fans. The empty heads normally want to ignore the match and hurl abuse at the opposition fans so if you avoid that area it’s normally a good start.
I don’t see why the away day experience has to involve wandering about trying to find a seat just because someone else thinks it’s okay to sit/stand in yours. In the League2/League1 days it didn’t matter so much as we rarely sold out. I would ask a steward if it was sit anywhere or if we were expected to sit in the allocated seat. The answer varied from club to club. In those days those choosing to stand tended to go towards the back or the centre of the stand so those who preferred to sit could usually do so.There's easy solutions to these problems. If you're short/don't want to stand, go to the front, there's usually free spaces.
Standing and being flexible on seating is part of the away day experience. If you don't like it/can't deal with it, don't go.
Standing is a separate issue. What solution are you proposing? At any away game 80-90%+ of us will be standing, do you think everyone should sit? It's a hard one. But again, a separate issue from swapping seats.I don’t see why the away day experience has to involve wandering about trying to find a seat just because someone else thinks it’s okay to sit/stand in yours. In the League2/League1 days it didn’t matter so much as we rarely sold out. I would ask a steward if it was sit anywhere or if we were expected to sit in the allocated seat. The answer varied from club to club. In those days those choosing to stand tended to go towards the back or the centre of the stand so those who preferred to sit could usually do so.
These choices aren’t there now as we sell out most away games. I think it’s a really selfish attitude to say if you don’t like it don’t go. I’m in my late 60’s now but fortunately still fit enough to stand for the 90 minutes. I do feel sorry for those older or frailer fans who now can’t see if they go as everyone, even those in the front seats, stand up. I’ve seen Pat Raybould ( the lady who runs the pre game activities for the junior Sky Blues) and friends having real difficulties watching games because of the insistence of those wanting to stand. You think that this is okay?
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