What’s your expectation for the new guy? (3 Viewers)

Calista said:

It's most likely worse than that, taking a longer term view. Robins' tenure here for so many years was pretty much unique. The way it works across English football is that managers are churned on a very regular basis. If you don't deliver success within a couple of years (statistically most likely because every year the vast majority of teams don't get promoted or win a trophy) you are deemed a failure and replaced, and the cycle begins again.

The club has now signed up for that tombola, which is the natural consequence of removing Robins, and I assume those who wanted him out are cool with it.

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this is what they wanted after all.

shmmeee said:

What I’m getting here is a bunch of bedwetters have written the season off after ten games and basically see the next nine months as an extended pre season.

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you do realise the poll is titled "bare minimum" right?

My expectation with this squad is to finish top 10, end the season in good form and to carry that form in to next season. Expecting someone to come in, make up for the sh*tshow of the first fifteen games and finish top 6 seems mad to me.

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SkyblueDad said:

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No chance that's the minimum.

FergieTheFinisher said:

I think it is quite a stretch to say Robins has made playoffs before therefore the new guy must do better than that in his first part season.

As the saying goes “Past performance is not indicative of future results” and this is never truer than in football. Who knows whether Robins would have turned this around or whether the wheels were coming off.

To my mind we are currently 9-13 points away from playoff spots. If we were to finish the season 9-13 points below playoff spots then the new guy will have demonstrated playoff form. Ie. We would be performing as well as the playoff teams. Anything better than that would be nearer auto form.

I worry an unfair judgement will be made on whether we do or do not make playoffs. The need for bedding in of new coaches and styles may take several games at minimum.

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If we don't get into the play offs then the new manager will have failed, because clearly Doug won't settle for anything less, otherwise he'd have kept Robins .

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Certainly we were trending towards a relegation battle under Robins.

Alan Dugdales Moustache said:

If we don't get into the play offs then the new manager will have failed, because clearly Doug won't settle for anything less, otherwise he'd have kept Robins .

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King will view not reaching them next season as being a failure. He got rid of Robins because he'd lost confidence in him in the long-term.

Regarding expectations, we already have a clear yardstick for the new Head Coach don’t we?

After 7 years hauling the club up by its bootstraps, Robins put together his new coaching team in July. Nine league games later, the first thread calling for Robins to be sacked appeared on here. After ten games two more were posted, and we had a series of polls and even a thread for choosing his successor IIRC. Around the same time, King appears to have been thinking along the same lines, with or without advice from anyone else. He wielded the axe in early November after 14 league games (when we were two or three results short of a strong position in what King describes as a “really compact league”). He has clearly pointed the finger at the new coaching setup and cited the risk to the club of relegation.

So assuming the new guy comes in before the next match, on the 9 or 10 game benchmark they’d have until New Year’s Day to satisfy some people on here that they are the right choice, or the [insert name here] Out! threads will begin. If we took it to King’s 14 games, the new regime would be judged on results / performance and change in league position by the end of January (or by 8th Feb to see if his required cup run was being delivered?).

I’m sure people will stay a bit calmer and give the next person a bit more time if things aren’t going too well. Performance has been hampered by some unfilled places in the squad, so there’s a need for a couple of extra players in the January window. The new guy needs a chance to get the benefit of bringing those in.

Obviously we all hope and expect that we’re flying up the league by then, so we aren’t repeating the same ridiculous meltdown on here that we’ve had this autumn.

Calista said:

, so we aren’t repeating the same ridiculous meltdown on here that we’ve had this autumn.

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Good luck with that.

I'm in the 8th to 10th category.

King stated that we had a great DECK.

So a really good tactician should be able to get them motoring, and my prediction above could even get bettered

We do have a good squad. Certainly capable of promotion, with a couple of shrewd January signings.
There was a feeling that King had already decided on the new man, both before and after the Fans Forum, but 48 hours later no announcement. If we really are looking through the applicant CVs that sets alarm bells ringing. Would of preferred he had someone in mind, and moved as soon as Robins was fired. Maybe this is the case, but I think everyone wants someone in place by Monday, in build up to the Sheff U game.

Alan Dugdales Moustache said:

If we don't get into the play offs then the new manager will have failed, because clearly Doug won't settle for anything less, otherwise he'd have kept Robins .

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He sacked him because he felt that there was a real danger of us being relegated this season.

The expectations are to keep making us proud. to get the team playing sexy football and be able to change a game by using plan B C or D
get us promoted and keep us there

So doesn’t the new manager get any gelling in time?
Seeing as the team, that is virtually the same as last year has been allowed the leeway to have?
So that’s a 10 game free hit surely, whilst he gels with the team & set up?

Top ten but with the ability to mix it with promotion contenders. Said at the start of the season that City were a top ten club, maybe top 12. This division is hugely competitive.
Expectations of a play off spot were too much.