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Ring Of Steel

Ring Of Steel

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Calista said:
It's most likely worse than that, taking a longer term view. Robins' tenure here for so many years was pretty much unique. The way it works across English football is that managers are churned on a very regular basis. If you don't deliver success within a couple of years (statistically most likely because every year the vast majority of teams don't get promoted or win a trophy) you are deemed a failure and replaced, and the cycle begins again.

The club has now signed up for that tombola, which is the natural consequence of removing Robins, and I assume those who wanted him out are cool with it.
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this is what they wanted after all.
 
mmttww

mmttww

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My expectation with this squad is to finish top 10, end the season in good form and to carry that form in to next season. Expecting someone to come in, make up for the sh*tshow of the first fifteen games and finish top 6 seems mad to me.
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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FergieTheFinisher said:
I think it is quite a stretch to say Robins has made playoffs before therefore the new guy must do better than that in his first part season.

As the saying goes “Past performance is not indicative of future results” and this is never truer than in football. Who knows whether Robins would have turned this around or whether the wheels were coming off.

To my mind we are currently 9-13 points away from playoff spots. If we were to finish the season 9-13 points below playoff spots then the new guy will have demonstrated playoff form. Ie. We would be performing as well as the playoff teams. Anything better than that would be nearer auto form.

I worry an unfair judgement will be made on whether we do or do not make playoffs. The need for bedding in of new coaches and styles may take several games at minimum.
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If we don't get into the play offs then the new manager will have failed, because clearly Doug won't settle for anything less, otherwise he'd have kept Robins .
 
Calista

Calista

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Regarding expectations, we already have a clear yardstick for the new Head Coach don’t we?

After 7 years hauling the club up by its bootstraps, Robins put together his new coaching team in July. Nine league games later, the first thread calling for Robins to be sacked appeared on here. After ten games two more were posted, and we had a series of polls and even a thread for choosing his successor IIRC. Around the same time, King appears to have been thinking along the same lines, with or without advice from anyone else. He wielded the axe in early November after 14 league games (when we were two or three results short of a strong position in what King describes as a “really compact league”). He has clearly pointed the finger at the new coaching setup and cited the risk to the club of relegation.

So assuming the new guy comes in before the next match, on the 9 or 10 game benchmark they’d have until New Year’s Day to satisfy some people on here that they are the right choice, or the [insert name here] Out! threads will begin. If we took it to King’s 14 games, the new regime would be judged on results / performance and change in league position by the end of January (or by 8th Feb to see if his required cup run was being delivered?).

I’m sure people will stay a bit calmer and give the next person a bit more time if things aren’t going too well. Performance has been hampered by some unfilled places in the squad, so there’s a need for a couple of extra players in the January window. The new guy needs a chance to get the benefit of bringing those in.

Obviously we all hope and expect that we’re flying up the league by then, so we aren’t repeating the same ridiculous meltdown on here that we’ve had this autumn.
 
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Macca1987

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I'm in the 8th to 10th category.

King stated that we had a great DECK.

So a really good tactician should be able to get them motoring, and my prediction above could even get bettered
 
Offhegoes

Offhegoes

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We do have a good squad. Certainly capable of promotion, with a couple of shrewd January signings.
There was a feeling that King had already decided on the new man, both before and after the Fans Forum, but 48 hours later no announcement. If we really are looking through the applicant CVs that sets alarm bells ringing. Would of preferred he had someone in mind, and moved as soon as Robins was fired. Maybe this is the case, but I think everyone wants someone in place by Monday, in build up to the Sheff U game.
 
ICHAN

ICHAN

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So doesn’t the new manager get any gelling in time?
Seeing as the team, that is virtually the same as last year has been allowed the leeway to have?
So that’s a 10 game free hit surely, whilst he gels with the team & set up?
 
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DrPoolittle

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Top ten but with the ability to mix it with promotion contenders. Said at the start of the season that City were a top ten club, maybe top 12. This division is hugely competitive.
Expectations of a play off spot were too much.
 
edgy

edgy

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I think realistically now, top ten would be a decent come back from this position. Considering our defensive frailty and injury to a key forward.
 
harvey098

harvey098

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Has to be higher than 9th surely. If 9th and an FA Cup semi final wasn’t good enough for Robins to keep his job then surely the new guy has to do better with a supposedly better squad.
 
Sick Boy

Sick Boy

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harvey098 said:
Has to be higher than 9th surely. If 9th and an FA Cup semi final wasn’t good enough for Robins to keep his job then surely the new guy has to do better with a supposedly better squad.
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let it go GIF
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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harvey098 said:
Has to be higher than 9th surely. If 9th and an FA Cup semi final wasn’t good enough for Robins to keep his job then surely the new guy has to do better with a supposedly better squad.
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I guess it was more the results and performance after the semi final, Derby, Swansea, Norwich , Shef Wed, Stoke performances were terrible.
 
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Deity

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I’m no
Calista said:
Regarding expectations, we already have a clear yardstick for the new Head Coach don’t we?

After 7 years hauling the club up by its bootstraps, Robins put together his new coaching team in July. Nine league games later, the first thread calling for Robins to be sacked appeared on here. After ten games two more were posted, and we had a series of polls and even a thread for choosing his successor IIRC. Around the same time, King appears to have been thinking along the same lines, with or without advice from anyone else. He wielded the axe in early November after 14 league games (when we were two or three results short of a strong position in what King describes as a “really compact league”). He has clearly pointed the finger at the new coaching setup and cited the risk to the club of relegation.

So assuming the new guy comes in before the next match, on the 9 or 10 game benchmark they’d have until New Year’s Day to satisfy some people on here that they are the right choice, or the [insert name here] Out! threads will begin. If we took it to King’s 14 games, the new regime would be judged on results / performance and change in league position by the end of January (or by 8th Feb to see if his required cup run was being delivered?).

I’m sure people will stay a bit calmer and give the next person a bit more time if things aren’t going too well. Performance has been hampered by some unfilled places in the squad, so there’s a need for a couple of extra players in the January window. The new guy needs a chance to get the benefit of bringing those in.

Obviously we all hope and expect that we’re flying up the league by then, so we aren’t repeating the same ridiculous meltdown on here that we’ve had this autumn.
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Im not sure this is quite right.

MR was not fired because of the first 9 or 14 matches.

He was fired because our league form was very mixed last year, he fell out with Adi and was not prepared to try and repair the relationship, he put in place an inexperienced coaching structure below him, and resisted the opportunity to change it when it wasn’t working.

The new manager will be given longer to improve us by DK than I suspect the fans will give him.
 
fatso

fatso

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Deity said:
I’m no

Im not sure this is quite right.

MR was not fired because of the first 9 or 14 matches.

He was fired because our league form was very mixed last year, he fell out with Adi and was not prepared to try and repair the relationship, he put in place an inexperienced coaching structure below him, and resisted the opportunity to change it when it wasn’t working.

The new manager will be given longer to improve us by DK than I suspect the fans will give him.
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Tbh, heads should of rolled for completely pissing so much of the Gyokeres and Hamer up the wall on poor quality players.

Honestly, spending £10+ million on Kitchen, EMC and Torp is criminal, and it didn't stop there.

Paying a shit defender like Binks £30k a week is just embarrassing.

Ultimately someone had to pay the price,
and hopefully others will go too.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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fatso said:
Tbh, heads should of rolled for completely pissing so much of the Gyokeres and Hamer up the wall on poor quality players.

Honestly, spending £10+ million on Kitchen, EMC and Torp is criminal, and it didn't stop there.

Paying a shit defender like Binks £30k a week is just embarrassing.

Ultimately someone had to pay the price,
and hopefully others will go too.
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He surely isn’t on that?
 
Grendel

Grendel

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shmmeee said:
Its true though? Why sack your manager for a lower league position?

The way you guys have dropped your standards just so you don’t look silly for wanting robins out is quite something.

Nick’s even positive in match threads now!
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Our league position wasn’t 9th when he was sacked. We were 1 point off relegation
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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shmmeee said:
Its true though? Why sack your manager for a lower league position?

The way you guys have dropped your standards just so you don’t look silly for wanting robins out is quite something.

Nick’s even positive in match threads now!
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I didn’t want him out but can recognise this squad has bigger flaws in it than any of us anticipated. So even outperforming Robins by 50% we would still be in the bottom half. It would still be a higher league position than we were on course for.
 
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Viktor17

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Top 12 now would be acceptable for me this season. FL essentially has extended pre season to really look at squad and imbed style.

Going to be big turnover in summer - likely MVE, Sheaf and wright to go + vik and maybe Hamer money.

Then next season would expect a play off challenge - however, the league will be ALOT tougher - similar to last season.
 
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