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Tommo1993

Tommo1993

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Only thing Hilssner is threatening is the kitchen and the transfer window.
 
stupot07

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Magwitch said:
Hilsner has had a serious lung condition ffs! and DaCosta a serious ankle injury. Was getting match fit a race, winner takes all ? I don’t know how good, bad or indifferent either are, nor do you but the very least both should be given time to show what they offer. Just saying let’s bin off Hilsner is codswallop to be honest. Like I have said proper supporters would give both reasonable time to see what they offer.
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'Proper supporters'

I saw enough of Hilsner in the friendlies to see he is nowhere near mobile enough for this league, lung condition or not. Robins doesn't get ever transfer right, but it seems obvious that Hilsner is this years kastaneer. Let not forget he came from German 3rd division, he was a gamble. I will be ecstatic if he proves me wrong.

Funny really under new rule neither Hilsner nor Da Costa would have enough points to be given a work permit.



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Brighton Sky Blue

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Barnsley said:
You can have a youthful team that’s also experienced, it’s not necessarily one or the other. Look at these 6 we’ve got in our squad
Luke Thomas 21 years old, played 126 first team games
Conor Chaplin 23 years of age, played 223 games
Callum Styles 20 years old, played 93 games
Callum Brittain 22 years old, played 137 games
Patrick Schmidt 22 years old, played 142 games
Bradley Collins (GK) 23 played 108 games.

That’s 6 players with the average age of 22 and they’ve played 829 games between them, at first team level. I’d say they’re pretty experienced. Most of our players have both youth and experience.
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Difference is those players have all had a season in this league. Aside from McF, none of our squad had that and it kind of shows. It helps if not everyone is trying to adapt to the level at once.
 
Grendel

Grendel

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
Difference is those players have all had a season in this league. Aside from McF, none of our squad had that and it kind of shows. It helps if not everyone is trying to adapt to the level at once.
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Allen has
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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stupot07 said:
'Proper supporters'

I saw enough of Hilsner in the friendlies to see he is nowhere near mobile enough for this league, lung condition or not. Robins doesn't get ever transfer right, but it seems obvious that Hilsner is this years kastaneer. Let not forget he came from German 3rd division, he was a gamble. I will be ecstatic if he proves me wrong.

Funny really under new rule neither Hilsner nor Da Costa would have enough points to be given a work permit.



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The new rules make it much harder for clubs like us to pick players up on the cheap while not really affecting the bigger clubs whose targets will meet the criteria.
 
stupot07

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
The new rules make it much harder for clubs like us to pick players up on the cheap while not really affecting the bigger clubs whose targets will meet the criteria.
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100%, I read an article that there is an appeals panel, which im sure will favour big clubs who want to bring in European youth players for their academy, over a championship/league one or two club trying to get a rough diamond out of the second/third divisions in France, Germany, etc.

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Magwitch

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stupot07 said:
'Proper supporters'

I saw enough of Hilsner in the friendlies to see he is nowhere near mobile enough for this league, lung condition or not. Robins doesn't get ever transfer right, but it seems obvious that Hilsner is this years kastaneer. Let not forget he came from German 3rd division, he was a gamble. I will be ecstatic if he proves me wrong.

Funny really under new rule neither Hilsner nor Da Costa would have enough points to be given a work permit.



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I would suggest playing with a possibly undiagnosed asthma condition might have had an effect on his fitness and performance. We’ll see in time.
 
Grendel

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
The new rules make it much harder for clubs like us to pick players up on the cheap while not really affecting the bigger clubs whose targets will meet the criteria.
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I don’t think it will make much difference and we shouldn’t be signing players like Hillsner anyway
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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stupot07 said:
The number of career championship appearances prior to this season

McFadzean 112
Walker 38
Allen 29
Kelly 19
Godden 5



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Precisely, do that for the Barnsley squad and the numbers will be a fair bit higher.
 
stupot07

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Frostie said:
Neither would Hamer... What's your point?
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Hamer most likely would have, he was playing in the top Dutch division and had been an u20 Dutch player, so would have probably scraped enough points to meet the immigration rules.

My point is, the new rules will mean we won't be able to gamble on players from lower leagues outside the UK. It will also lead to British players being a premium and their cost will increase. It means the work we have done in setting up scouting networks abroad has been for nothing, and means it will be even harder for us to get the better UK talent to compete with inflated prices.


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Brighton Sky Blue

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stupot07 said:
100%, I read an article that there is an appeals panel, which im sure will favour big clubs who want to bring in European youth players for their academy, over a championship/league one or two club trying to get a rough diamond out of the second/third divisions in France, Germany, etc.

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As Badlan said in his piece in the summer, we have tried to get scouting expertise in a small range of foreign leagues to try and pick players up who are less well known but with the stats we want. It is more likely than not that such players just aren’t going to meet the criteria and so clubs will have to look in Britain from a much reduced pool of players
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
As Badlan said in his piece in the summer, we have tried to get scouting expertise in a small range of foreign leagues to try and pick players up who are less well known but with the stats we want. It is more likely than not that such players just aren’t going to meet the criteria and so clubs will have to look in Britain from a much reduced pool of players
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Surely if clubs are unable to sign cheaper options from abroad that is likely to put a further premium on English players. It'll just inflate the market further
 
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SBT

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Magwitch said:
I would suggest playing with a possibly undiagnosed asthma condition might have had an effect on his fitness and performance. We’ll see in time.
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He played fairly regularly before he joined us so I don’t know if the condition was undiagnosed or something that developed when he joined us. If it’s the former, I don’t know why he’s suddenly unable to play games. If it’s the latter, there’s a decent chance that his career is over.
 
Grendel

Grendel

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
Brexit has made this happen and it will have a big impact on us because of the model we have tried to put in place. You’re just working back from your conclusion
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The FA have decided these rules haven’t they? In other industries all these would get work permits.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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KenilworthSkyBlue said:
I changed UK to English as even if there was no pool to fish from the Irish and Welsh leagues won't have a premium attached to them.

I thought as much. I can only see this making the gulf between leagues even larger.
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Scotland will have some but not much. They really need to look at these proposals again while they have the opportunity.
 
Frostie

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stupot07 said:
Hamer most likely would have, he was playing in the top Dutch division and had been an u20 Dutch player, so would have probably scraped enough points to meet the immigration rules.

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Not according to these guys who actually provide European scouting & recruitment advice to EFL clubs.


 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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Grendel said:
The FA have decided these rules haven’t they? In other industries all these would get work permits.
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Look at how it’s gone with who tends to sign non-EU players up to this point. Big clubs who have links with EU feeder clubs could just farm them out until they get a work permit. It has just made recruitment harder for clubs like ourselves while I suspect the bigger ones will be unaffected for the most part
 
Barnsley

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
Difference is those players have all had a season in this league. Aside from McF, none of our squad had that and it kind of shows. It helps if not everyone is trying to adapt to the level at once.
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Callum Britain is having his first season at championship level and he’s one of our better players. one of the main reasons I spend so much time on other teams forums, is because ours is full of cünts and bellends, all the cünts and bellends were saying exactly the same as you lot last season, we need experienced championship players blah blah blah. It took us 6 months then we had a squad full of them. This time next year you’ll have squad with 18 months of championship football under your belt, and you won’t have had to break the bank, or make wholesale changes, just have some patience and give it some time.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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Barnsley said:
Callum Britain is having his first season at championship level and he’s one of our better players. one of the main reasons I spend so much time on other teams forums, is because ours is full of cünts and bellends, all the cünts and bellends were saying exactly the same as you lot last season, we need experienced championship players blah blah blah. It took us 6 months then we had a squad full of them. This time next year you’ll have squad with 18 months of championship football under your belt, and you won’t have had to break the bank, or make wholesale changes, just have some patience and give it some time.
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You do realise I am not saying stack the squad with older players just that we have an acute lack of experience in specific positions due to injury?
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
Scotland will have some but not much. They really need to look at these proposals again while they have the opportunity.
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Given some of the transfer fees paid to Scottish clubs, Scotland already has a premium to it in my opinion hence why I didn't include it in my post.

£2m for Lyndon Dykes for instance is laughable. He's scored one goal from open play this season.
 
Grendel

Grendel

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
Look at how it’s gone with who tends to sign non-EU players up to this point. Big clubs who have links with EU feeder clubs could just farm them out until they get a work permit. It has just made recruitment harder for clubs like ourselves while I suspect the bigger ones will be unaffected for the most part
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I don’t agree
 
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Macca

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I have to say my head is so far away from what we can achieve next season it’s untrue. We are bang in a relegation battle so my thought is how the hell do we avoid that. How to score a few goals so that we are even on with a chance. I mean I might be missing something but if no answers are found to current problems the. There will be no championship season 21-22 to push on in
 
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