I wouldn't call it piss poor, not on a par with clubs I would consider contemporaries though. The thing is, the main reason for this must surely be the constant mediocrity, not a top 6 finish for more than 40 years with one flash in the pan cup success occurring at the time the game of footballs profile was at it's lowest ebb. Just the stimulous of the odd promotion/play off I think would see a fanbase increase.OK, have it your way. The support has still been piss poor for years. A fact you can't escape from.
The size of other clubs is irrelevant to be honest.
15k is more than enough fans to compete at championship level.
Relegation season:
1 West Ham United 32977
2 Southampton 26419
3 Derby County 26020
4 Leeds United 23282
5 Leicester City 23080
6 Cardiff City 22139
7 Nottingham Forest 21969
8 Brighton & Hove Albion 20027
9 Birmingham City 19516
10 Reading 19219
11 Hull City 18790
12 Ipswich Town 18266
13 Middlesbrough 17557
14 Crystal Palace 15219
15 Coventry City 15119
16 Portsmouth 15015
17 Burnley 14048
18 Bristol City 13845
19 Blackpool 12808
20 Watford 12703
21 Millwall 11484
22 Barnsley 10329
23 Doncaster Rovers 9341
24 Peterborough United 9110
Attendence is only relative to the teams around you. In that respect we were a mid table supported championship team.
Of course its not irrelevant its a comment made by you before the obvious answer comes back. Yeovil will not attract big crowds whatever the position they are in. West ham would even if they were bottom.
15 000 would be an acceptable figure if that us achieved by other clubs in similar cities - is it?
So do you think 15k is poor for a Championship club in the relegation zone the whole season? Yes or No?
Were we not getting over 20k when SISU first took over? The crowds got lower very quickly once we ended up with a relegation side.
And now we can be lucky to get more than 2k and that is including the away support.
Club | High | High Opponent | Low | Low Opponent | Average |
Wolves | 28598 | Leyton Orient(29/12/13) | 14989 | Tranmere(26/11/13) | 19652 |
Sheffield Utd | 19551 | Oldham(26/12/13) | 14796 | Walsall(26/11/13) | 17139 |
Bradford City | 18218 | Rotherham(26/12/13) | 12106 | Port Vale(18/02/14) | 14382 |
Bristol City | 14393 | Wolves(17/08/13) | 10085 | Crawley Town(05/11/13) | 11568 |
Preston | 16583 | Wolves(03/08/13) | 8492 | Colchester(23/11/13) | 10472 |
Rotherham | 11758 | Sheffield Utd(07/09/13) | 7096 | Colchester(02/11/13) | 8400 |
MK Dons | 14988 | Coventry City(30/11/13) | 6675 | Carlisle(22/10/13) | 8289 |
Swindon Town | 11598 | Bristol City(21/09/13) | 6683 | Colchester(14/02/14) | 8032 |
Brentford | 11309 | Wolves(22/02/14) | 5705 | Colchester(19/10/13) | 7319 |
Port Vale | 12601 | Wolves(31/08/13) | 3734 | Colchester(11/02/14) | 6765 |
Peterborough | 10026 | Leyton Orient(02/11/13) | 4263 | Walsall(14/02/14) | 6639 |
Gillingham | 8613 | Leyton Orient(26/12/13) | 4951 | Stevenage(26/11/13) | 6201 |
Notts County | 8564 | Sheffield Utd(11/01/14) | 3385 | Oldham(29/10/13) | 5625 |
Shrewsbury | 9510 | Wolves(21/09/13) | 4194 | Leyton Orient(07/01/14) | 5607 |
Leyton Orient | 7123 | Preston(16/11/13) | 3928 | Bristol City(11/02/14) | 5254 |
Tranmere | 6251 | Gillingham(20/12/13) | 3777 | Rotherham(28/01/14) | 4879 |
Crewe | 6820 | Port Vale(23/11/13) | 3613 | MK Dons(21/01/14) | 4770 |
Walsall | 6519 | Coventry City(26/10/13) | 3522 | Oldham(14/01/14) | 4585 |
Oldham | 7180 | Bradford City(01/12/13) | 3460 | Stevenage(11/01/14) | 4304 |
Carlisle | 7934 | Preston(26/12/13) | 2969 | Crewe(26/11/13) | 4248 |
Colchester | 7295 | Wolves(05/10/13) | 2597 | MK Dons(26/11/13) | 3766 |
Crawley Town | 4177 | Brentford(02/11/13) | 2407 | Preston(14/12/13) | 3274 |
Stevenage | 4262 | Peterborough(22/02/14) | 2167 | Swindon Town(14/01/14) | 2970 |
Coventry City | 4905 | Peterborough(26/12/13) | 1603 | Carlisle(18/02/14) | 2352 |
Club High High Opponent Low Low Opponent Average Wolves 28598 Leyton Orient(29/12/13) 14989 Tranmere(26/11/13) 19652 Sheffield Utd 19551 Oldham(26/12/13) 14796 Walsall(26/11/13) 17139 Bradford City 18218 Rotherham(26/12/13) 12106 Port Vale(18/02/14) 14382 Bristol City 14393 Wolves(17/08/13) 10085 Crawley Town(05/11/13) 11568 Preston 16583 Wolves(03/08/13) 8492 Colchester(23/11/13) 10472 Rotherham 11758 Sheffield Utd(07/09/13) 7096 Colchester(02/11/13) 8400 MK Dons 14988 Coventry City(30/11/13) 6675 Carlisle(22/10/13) 8289 Swindon Town 11598 Bristol City(21/09/13) 6683 Colchester(14/02/14) 8032 Brentford 11309 Wolves(22/02/14) 5705 Colchester(19/10/13) 7319 Port Vale 12601 Wolves(31/08/13) 3734 Colchester(11/02/14) 6765 Peterborough 10026 Leyton Orient(02/11/13) 4263 Walsall(14/02/14) 6639 Gillingham 8613 Leyton Orient(26/12/13) 4951 Stevenage(26/11/13) 6201 Notts County 8564 Sheffield Utd(11/01/14) 3385 Oldham(29/10/13) 5625 Shrewsbury 9510 Wolves(21/09/13) 4194 Leyton Orient(07/01/14) 5607 Leyton Orient 7123 Preston(16/11/13) 3928 Bristol City(11/02/14) 5254 Tranmere 6251 Gillingham(20/12/13) 3777 Rotherham(28/01/14) 4879 Crewe 6820 Port Vale(23/11/13) 3613 MK Dons(21/01/14) 4770 Walsall 6519 Coventry City(26/10/13) 3522 Oldham(14/01/14) 4585 Oldham 7180 Bradford City(01/12/13) 3460 Stevenage(11/01/14) 4304 Carlisle 7934 Preston(26/12/13) 2969 Crewe(26/11/13) 4248 Colchester 7295 Wolves(05/10/13) 2597 MK Dons(26/11/13) 3766 Crawley Town 4177 Brentford(02/11/13) 2407 Preston(14/12/13) 3274 Stevenage 4262 Peterborough(22/02/14) 2167 Swindon Town(14/01/14) 2970 Coventry City 4905 Peterborough(26/12/13) 1603 Carlisle(18/02/14) 2352
No need to show the lowest attendances
Exactly with no top 6 place since 1970 , a stat which I can't believe any other club comes even remotely close to matching, it is frankly amazing that anybody goes. Speaking to some Sheff Wed fans before the game at Rotherham, they were absolutely gobsmacked when we told them of our dubious honour. It would be hard to think of any team in any major sport with such a sustained period of abject failure.I wouldn't call it piss poor, not on a par with clubs I would consider contemporaries though. The thing is, the main reason for this must surely be the constant mediocrity, not a top 6 finish for more than 40 years with one flash in the pan cup success occurring at the time the game of footballs profile was at it's lowest ebb. Just the stimulous of the odd promotion/play off I think would see a fanbase increase.
Why is it surprising anybody goes because we haven't had much success since 1970? If people only want to support when we get success then maybe they should get an Arsenal / Man Utd / Chelsea shirt.
What success! !Why is it surprising anybody goes because we haven't had much success since 1970? If people only want to support when we get success then maybe they should get an Arsenal / Man Utd / Chelsea shirt.
Why is it surprising anybody goes because we haven't had much success since 1970? If people only want to support when we get success then maybe they should get an Arsenal / Man Utd / Chelsea shirt.
You find it surprising that people want to watch a winning team?
Using your logic there should be no variation across the leagues in the amount of people watching. Why do you suppose Man City get more fans than Bury?
You find it surprising that people want to watch a winning team?
Using your logic there should be no variation across the leagues in the amount of people watching. Why do you suppose Man City get more fans than Bury?
Well I thought about that one and for a minute thought burys population of 60,000 versus 2.5 million might be a factor but on reflection you are probably right.
And then there's Leeds which has a population similar to that of Liverpool, yet Liverpool and Everton have a combined attendance of around 70k each weekend, whereas Leeds has about 23k.
Very strange don't you think?
Mmmm interesting thought you've convened me. So of course teams like forest Norwich and Southampton in their relegation seasons from the championship must have had massively lower attendances than us - I'm guessing - am I right?
Well I thought about that one and for a minute thought burys population of 60,000 versus 2.5 million might be a factor but on reflection you are probably right.
So are you now going to let us know how many Manchester fans......both clubs.......were born or live in Manchester? And I suppose our club has the same amount of fans that were not either born or live in Coventry.
You find it surprising that people want to watch a winning team?
Using your logic there should be no variation across the leagues in the amount of people watching. Why do you suppose Man City get more fans than Bury?
I don't know, maybe some of them are just glory fans and were probably nowhere to be seen when they were lurking in the lower leagues....
I don't know, maybe some of them are just glory fans and were probably nowhere to be seen when they were lurking in the lower leagues....
But that can't be possible.
According to some posters on here Ccfc is the only club in the world that attracts more fans when doing well.
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