An improvement on nothing is hardly an improvement.I'm sure before today we'd scored 11 goals in 6 games, a marked improvement on last season
An improvement on nothing is hardly an improvement.
It's probably individual player confidence over explicit instructionNow, I dont want this to cascade in to a "Robins' out" thread. I also dont want people.to think that's where I'm aiming with this as that's not where I'm going.
With that said, it's a reoccurring theme we seem to be having with Robin's. As a player, Robin's was a pretty handy striker, so why can he not get his team to fucking shoot. We play some great football at times and easily matched a premier league team tonight, in all departments apart from fucking shooting. They were relentless, every single forward player tonight wanted to rip the net apart with their shot, ok, they stuck about 20 in the stands, but they got 3 goals. Their keeper never broke a sweat. Easiest ge of his career tonight.
Same against Southend, bosses the game, kept the ball for huge periods, only 1 goal to show and almost got pegged back. Same as with Gillingham. 0-0 (granted 1 of the 3 disallowed goals should of stood) against a team EVERY other team has put 5 past.
Where is our passion to want to score goals. Like McNulty, he wanted goals, Arma the same, who do we have that wants it? Not a single player on the pitch tonight looked like they wanted to shoot, let alone score! Why? What's going wrong? Is it mental? A confidence thing? Just not good enough up front? Is this tiki taka stuff Robin's has us playing too indirect and going against us? I just dont get it.
*Edit, as a side post, I dont want to sound negative because we played very well tonight and I really enjoyed an evening in Watford with my lad, just pointing out an reoccurring thing that has been an issue for many months now. And ultimately, the difference between a win and a loss tonight (or promotion or not last season).
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100% agree with the OP don’t know what it is, we played okay last night moved the ball round across the defence through midfield lot of possession but I don’t recall one shot or header on target, O’Hara had one that went wide of a post first half and that’s it, Watford keeper didn’t have a save to make, we are work in progress and need to look at our forward set up, having said that thought we did okay despite the 0-3 result.
Using the same argument..... you went to school, but you persist in typing Robin's or Robins' instead of RobinsAs a player, Robin's was a pretty handy striker, so why can he not get his team to fucking shoot.
Not on target though, lot of space over a barYou must have left before Godden put one over the bar then?
You'll find that auto correct persists, I ignore.Using the same argument..... you went to school, but you persist in typing Robin's or Robins' instead of Robins
I agree, our strikers aren't of the same quality on Man City or Liverpool, but on the flip side of that coin, neither are the defenders/GKs were playing against.There does seem at times to be a reluctance to shoot, possibly because MR does favour the possession play. But he also has to remember we don't have strikers of the quality Man City and Liverpool do and we can't expect them to be as clinical and maybe need to take a punt every now and again and test a keeper out - they could fumble or whatever and not only to we possibly get a goal it affects their confidence.
Having said that we've had a good start so it's not working too badly plus I think Allen and O'Hare may be more willing to get shots away from around the edge of the area, and hopefully Shipley will bag a few - it seems to be one of his stronger points.
I agree, our strikers aren't of the same quality on Man City or Liverpool, but on the flip side of that coin, neither are the defenders/GKs were playing against.
But my point is, football is a stats game, and the fact is, if you only have 1 shot in 90mins you will only ever have the opportunity to score 1 goal. The more shots you have, the more chances you have to score. As shown by Watford last night, their quality wasnt anything amazing, but they peppered our goal continuously in the 2nd half, and they got their reward. Just because we dont have the quality, does that mean we just dont bother?? Just throw the towel in now and forget the league as were not as rich as Sunderland or as Strong as Pompey? No, we try. I'm not asking for Man City strikers, just strikers willing to hit a shot at goal when they have sight of it. I'm not asking for every shot to be a goal, I'm not even expecting every shot to be on target.
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Thanks for that inputWe won 1-0 against gillingham????!!!
"SHOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT"Now, I dont want this to cascade in to a "Robins' out" thread. I also dont want people.to think that's where I'm aiming with this as that's not where I'm going.
With that said, it's a reoccurring theme we seem to be having with Robin's. As a player, Robin's was a pretty handy striker, so why can he not get his team to fucking shoot. We play some great football at times and easily matched a premier league team tonight, in all departments apart from fucking shooting. They were relentless, every single forward player tonight wanted to rip the net apart with their shot, ok, they stuck about 20 in the stands, but they got 3 goals. Their keeper never broke a sweat. Easiest ge of his career tonight.
Same against Southend, bosses the game, kept the ball for huge periods, only 1 goal to show and almost got pegged back. Same as with Gillingham. 0-0 (granted 1 of the 3 disallowed goals should of stood) against a team EVERY other team has put 5 past.
Where is our passion to want to score goals. Like McNulty, he wanted goals, Arma the same, who do we have that wants it? Not a single player on the pitch tonight looked like they wanted to shoot, let alone score! Why? What's going wrong? Is it mental? A confidence thing? Just not good enough up front? Is this tiki taka stuff Robin's has us playing too indirect and going against us? I just dont get it.
*Edit, as a side post, I dont want to sound negative because we played very well tonight and I really enjoyed an evening in Watford with my lad, just pointing out an reoccurring thing that has been an issue for many months now. And ultimately, the difference between a win and a loss tonight (or promotion or not last season).
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I'd say it's lack of confidence.<snip>
Where is our passion to want to score goals. Like McNulty, he wanted goals, Arma the same, who do we have that wants it? Not a single player on the pitch tonight looked like they wanted to shoot, let alone score! Why? What's going wrong? Is it mental? A confidence thing? Just not good enough up front? Is this tiki taka stuff Robin's has us playing too indirect and going against us? I just dont get it.<snip>
U said we drew 0-0??Thanks for that input
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He did, but think he meant Bolton.U said we drew 0-0??
No, theres a full stop. Read it again. I said we barely beat southend, same as with gillingham FULL STOP 0-0 against a team everyone else has spanked. Admittedly I could of worded it better but I did put 0-0 about Bolton.U said we drew 0-0??
My bad , sor ryNo, theres a full stop. Read it again. I said we barely beat southend, same as with gillingham FULL STOP 0-0 against a team everyone else has spanked. Admittedly I could of worded it better but I did put 0-0 about Bolton.
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You could have.No, theres a full stop. Read it again. I said we barely beat southend, same as with gillingham FULL STOP 0-0 against a team everyone else has spanked. Admittedly I could of worded it better but I did put 0-0 about Bolton.
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I missed it too, but I'm blind as a bat (short sighted wise) without my glasses on.No, theres a full stop. Read it again. I said we barely beat southend, same as with gillingham FULL STOP 0-0 against a team everyone else has spanked. Admittedly I could of worded it better but I did put 0-0 about Bolton.
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I tend to agree with the OP. Goals win games. Not 0-0 bore draws. And the more goals that are scored the better the goal difference, which can be a massive indicator at seasons end. Let's face it, what is the purpose of the game of football? TO SCORE MORE GOALS THAN THE OPPOSITION! It's not rocket surgery!
I tend to agree with the OP. Goals win games. Not 0-0 bore draws. And the more goals that are scored the better the goal difference, which can be a massive indicator at seasons end. Let's face it, what is the purpose of the game of football? TO SCORE MORE GOALS THAN THE OPPOSITION! It's not rocket surgery!
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