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Tonylinc

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  • Sep 8, 2013
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We all know that plan A is to distress ACL to the point which they can pick up the Ricoh for next to nothing BUT what is plan B?
 

skybluetony176

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  • Sep 8, 2013
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wasn't he in that Sweeney film?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 8, 2013
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As I understand it ACL are actively looking for alternative uses for the Ricoh - seems to be no goodwill on any side to get together to sort CCFC playing in Coventry any time soon
 
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ecky

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  • Sep 8, 2013
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Tonylinc said:
We all know that plan A is to distress ACL to the point which they can pick up the Ricoh for next to nothing BUT what is plan B?
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wait for ntfc to go bust and sisu will buy the ground on the cheap?
 
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Tonylinc

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  • Sep 8, 2013
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Sky Blue Pete said:
As I understand it ACL are actively looking for alternative uses for the Ricoh - seems to be no goodwill on any side to get together to sort CCFC playing in Coventry any time soon
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You really can't blame them for that Pete. They have a business to protect.
 
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Tonylinc

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  • Sep 8, 2013
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ecky said:
wait for ntfc to go bust and sisu will buy the ground on the cheap?
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This brings me back to another point I raised......expect an application for a name change.
 

Paxman II

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  • Sep 8, 2013
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I'm not so sure tonylinc that the idea of stressing ACL is still the objective. It was, has been but I believe they may have moved on from there. According to some opinions ACL are perfectly capable of continuing into profits without the football club so with the football club no longer a tenant then they are no longer distressing anyone accept the fans!

Plan B must be to sit back and wait for an offer from ACL/CCC to return at much more favourable terms. And before you say they already did that please note that no offer has been made formally to anyone yet that is either legitimate or otherwise.
 
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ecky

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  • Sep 8, 2013
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Tonylinc said:
This brings me back to another point I raised......expect an application for a name change.
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Your right you can see it coming, it really would be the end of ccfc, could it be challenged on a legality basis?
 
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quinn1971

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  • Sep 8, 2013
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Plan b is to build the new ground....they don't want the ricoh anymore....even if they do distress acl no way in hell will they sell it to sisu.
 

coventry&stuff

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  • Sep 8, 2013
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Has the Ricoh been used for anything since we left? With the exception of the Cov legends game.
 
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Tonylinc

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  • Sep 8, 2013
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Paxman II said:
I'm not so sure tonylinc that the idea of stressing ACL is still the objective. It was, has been but I believe they may have moved on from there. According to some opinions ACL are perfectly capable of continuing into profits without the football club so with the football club no longer a tenant then they are no longer distressing anyone accept the fans!

Plan B must be to sit back and wait for an offer from ACL/CCC to return at much more favourable terms. And before you say they already did that please note that no offer has been made formally to anyone yet that is either legitimate or otherwise.
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I don't think that any offer would be acceptable to them without the keys.
 
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Tonylinc

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  • Sep 8, 2013
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ecky said:
Your right you can see it coming, it really would be the end of ccfc, could it be challenged on a legality basis?
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Ah......NO.
 
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Tonylinc

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  • Sep 8, 2013
  • #13
quinn1971 said:
Plan b is to build the new ground....they don't want the ricoh anymore....even if they do distress acl no way in hell will they sell it to sisu.
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Build a new ground? You must be joking. How much would that cost? No; it is a non-starter.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Sep 8, 2013
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quinn1971 said:
Plan b is to build the new ground....they don't want the ricoh anymore....even if they do distress acl no way in hell will they sell it to sisu.
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ointlaugh: they want to hurry up and get on with it then, like someone said a few days ago it took 8years to get the ricoh built with the full baking of the local council. as was uncovered they are not even talking to any local councils and still no news on a site just lots of badger shit apparently.
 
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Skyblue4u

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  • Sep 8, 2013
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Plan B is to keep going until the money runs out or the fans return.
 
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Tonylinc

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  • Sep 8, 2013
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Skyblue4u said:
Plan B is to keep going until the money runs out or the fans return.
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Not much of a plan is it?
 

Paxman II

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  • Sep 8, 2013
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If we can all agree that SISU now in the guise of Otium are prepared to fund the loses for 3 years instead of trying desperately to get back in at the Ricoh where 10k plus a match would be far better for them then we can begin to see they mean to move on unless a sustainable offer is made attractive to them.
If it is purely to distress ACL into handing over the keys to the Ricoh then that strategy would be crazy! What would be stop any one else from obtaining the Ricoh at that point? Haskell and his band of merry men for example?
I think the Council had better think very carefully where they go from here because if they don't eventually get the football club back at the stadium they helped rescue for that specific purpose for the most part, then I fear a white elephant on the horizon.
 
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quinn1971

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  • Sep 8, 2013
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Tonylinc said:
Build a new ground? You must be joking. How much would that cost? No; it is a non-starter.
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More chance of a new ground than us going back to the ricoh.
 
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Tonylinc

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  • Sep 8, 2013
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Paxman II said:
If we can all agree that SISU now in the guise of Otium are prepared to fund the loses for 3 years instead of trying desperately to get back in at the Ricoh where 10k plus a match would be far better for them then we can begin to see they mean to move on unless a sustainable offer is made attractive to them.
If it is purely to distress ACL into handing over the keys to the Ricoh then that strategy would be crazy! What would be stop any one else from obtaining the Ricoh at that point? Haskell and his band of merry men for example?
I think the Council had better think very carefully where they go from here because if they don't eventually get the football club back at the stadium they helped rescue for that specific purpose for the most part, then I fear a white elephant on the horizon.
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I'm getting the feeling that most think that ACL need the football club more that the football club need ACL
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 8, 2013
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Plan B is oblivion.
 
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RFC

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  • Sep 8, 2013
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Said this from the outset, CCC & ACL NEED the Sky Blues more than they need the Ricoh, it's not 'rocket science' is it ? PUSB!
 
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Tonylinc

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  • Sep 8, 2013
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RFC said:
Said this from the outset, CCC & ACL NEED the Sky Blues more than they need the Ricoh, it's not 'rocket science' is it ? PUSB!
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Am beginning to think the same SO who is going to make the first move?
 
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Lorksalordy

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  • Sep 8, 2013
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I am seeing little from anyone involved to indicate that there is a Plan A
 
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Tonylinc

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  • Sep 8, 2013
  • #24
Lorksalordy said:
I am seeing little from anyone involved to indicate that there is a Plan A
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FFS we really are in trouble then!!!!!!
 

sky blue john

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  • Sep 8, 2013
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RFC said:
Said this from the outset, CCC & ACL NEED the Sky Blues more than they need the Ricoh, it's not
'rocket science' is it ? PUSB!
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It doesn't matter the over riding factor is Sisu need the Ricoh to turn a profit on their investment !!!
 
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Grendel

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  • Sep 8, 2013
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sky blue john said:
It doesn't matter the over riding factor is Sisu need the Ricoh to turn a profit on their investment !!!
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And?.....,
 
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Buster

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  • Sep 8, 2013
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Distressing ACL IS plan b ! I believe that when Ray R was involved the initial plan was to take us up , unfortunately ,for many reasons this failed and the consequence was no more need to involve a football brain so bye bye Ray. From then on it was the fall back plan of obtaining the Ricoh . Messy business , so no Ray no Joe no Gary ! Just our old mate Tim!
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Sep 8, 2013
  • #28
Paxman II said:
I'm not so sure tonylinc that the idea of stressing ACL is still the objective. It was, has been but I believe they may have moved on from there. According to some opinions ACL are perfectly capable of continuing into profits without the football club so with the football club no longer a tenant then they are no longer distressing anyone accept the fans!

Plan B must be to sit back and wait for an offer from ACL/CCC to return at much more favourable terms. And before you say they already did that please note that no offer has been made formally to anyone yet that is either legitimate or otherwise.
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Pax

I assume you know this really is not the case
There is no way you are that naive
 
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SkyBlueBlood

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  • Sep 8, 2013
  • #29
quinn1971 said:
More chance of a new ground than us going back to the ricoh.
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No chance of a new ground unless its on Jimmy's Hill
 
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Tonylinc

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  • Sep 8, 2013
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Grendel said:
And?.....,
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Very useful post G
 
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longjohnskyblue

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  • Sep 8, 2013
  • #31
Tonylinc said:
I'm getting the feeling that most think that ACL need the football club more that the football club need ACL
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It is the exact opposite! Compass are making more money than when the club was there! This could only happen if there is more going on there. seems there are exhibitions being held pretty much every week
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Sep 8, 2013
  • #32
Paxman II said:
If we can all agree that SISU now in the guise of Otium are prepared to fund the loses for 3 years instead of trying desperately to get back in at the Ricoh where 10k plus a match would be far better for them then we can begin to see they mean to move on unless a sustainable offer is made attractive to them.
If it is purely to distress ACL into handing over the keys to the Ricoh then that strategy would be crazy! What would be stop any one else from obtaining the Ricoh at that point? Haskell and his band of merry men for example?
I think the Council had better think very carefully where they go from here because if they don't eventually get the football club back at the stadium they helped rescue for that specific purpose for the most part, then I fear a white elephant on the horizon.
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Say they are only 40 mil in debt not the 70 mil they claim.

Pre borrowing to build a stadium

Work out the rest pax .......
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 8, 2013
  • #33
Tonylinc said:
Very useful post G
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Giving them the Ricoh is fine by me - its the only solution.
 
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Tonylinc

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  • Sep 8, 2013
  • #34
Grendel said:
Giving them the Ricoh is fine by me - its the only solution.
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And what they do with it?
 
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Buster

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  • Sep 8, 2013
  • #35
Paxman II said:
If we can all agree that SISU now in the guise of Otium are prepared to fund the loses for 3 years instead of trying desperately to get back in at the Ricoh where 10k plus a match would be far better for them then we can begin to see they mean to move on unless a sustainable offer is made attractive to them.
If it is purely to distress ACL into handing over the keys to the Ricoh then that strategy would be crazy! What would be stop any one else from obtaining the Ricoh at that point? Haskell and his band of merry men for example?
I think the Council had better think very carefully where they go from here because if they don't eventually get the football club back at the stadium they helped rescue for that specific purpose for the most part, then I fear a white elephant on the horizon.
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If they have moved on with no designs on the Ricoh , why the JR ? Asked a few times but never answered. Why would Haskell buy a football pitch ? He hasn't got a football team .
 
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