What was the difference from Luton to Fulham? (1 Viewer)

[Sky Blue Pete]

Was it just the start of the game?

Complacency?

Too open?

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[Evo1883]

Just happens.. like when Liverpool can get thumped for 7 against villa

 

[hill83]

Luton hunted us down and gave us no time on the ball.
Fulham didn’t.

 

[usskyblue]

Fuckaduck Pete … you been told you’ve got 6 months to live or summut ?

 

[Philosoraptor]

Home advantage in the large part I reckon.

 

[Moff]

What was the difference from Luton to Fulham?

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About 45 miles Pete, M1 then M25, M4....sorted

 

[Sky Blue Harry H]

37.9 miles via the M1

Edit: Bloody hell Moff - are you a mind reader ? (P.S. go via my route - saves on diesel too!)

 

[Moff]

37.9 miles via the M1

You would get there quicker than me!

 

[Porkchophill]

Seemed a lot more time on the ball v Fulham .. slower controlled possession by the opposition seems to play into our hands , where as we were hunted down by Luton from the start

 

[oldskyblue58]

Just one of those nights that happens to all teams but

Luton pressed us far more than Fulham which gave us less time and space
And
The size of the Luton pitch helped them with the press. The CBS Arena gives us more space and time to play how we want to.

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

A: -2

 

[Paxman II]

Simple answer; To a man everyone played badly for some reason at Luton. Every kick, pass, clearance just didn't work. It happens. Won't happen again this season.

 

[wingy]

37.9 miles via the M1

Edit: Bloody hell Moff - are you a mind reader ? (P.S. go via my route - saves on diesel too!)

I'd follow the river.

 

[NortonSkyBlue]

Simple answer; To a man everyone played badly for some reason at Luton. Every kick, pass, clearance just didn't work. It happens. Won't happen again this season.

Yes it will, its a long season. All teams are going to get beaten by teams they would be expected to beat.

 

[Martin180]

Kenilworth Road is a horrible ground for any away side to play , was never going to suit our expansive game in hindsight . We won’t be the last side to get turned over there

 

[skybluegod]

Poor start that just snowballed. If we had just shut up shop for 10/15 minutes after the penalty and calmed down it could have been so different. Think it was just a case of a lack of experience in how to deal with such a high tempo start and press from Luton. Needed the experienced heads to take the game by the scruff of the neck but for whatever reason it didn't happen.

And Robins said it himself we started to chase the game way too early rather than sticking with the game plan. It's a good learning point for the players.

As said at the the time Luton were excellent in their execution of their game plan.

 

[derbyskyblue]

Fooked if i know. Both performances were like chalk and cheese.
I did have a worry of getting a tonking of Fulham and maybe wheels are coming off etc....shows how much i know.

 

[Paxman II]

Yes it will, its a long season. All teams are going to get beaten by teams they would be expected to beat.

Not saying we won't get beat where it's not expected, I'm saying the nature of the Luton defeat won't happen again.

 

[Winny the Bish]

Momentum.

Against Luton we had none thanks to the early penalty. We had to chase the game, which led to sloppy passing and needing to be more attacking left us wide open.

Against Fulham we had all of it in the 2nd half. Gifted a goal in the first two minutes, then a soft penalty and Fulham were losing before they could even say 'where are my prawn sandwiches'.

 

[Frostie]

Momentum.

Against Luton we had none thanks to the early penalty. We had to chase the game, which led to sloppy passing and needing to be more attacking left us wide open.

Against Fulham we had all of it in the 2nd half. Gifted a goal in the first two minutes, then a soft penalty and Fulham were losing before they could even say 'where are my prawn sandwiches'.

I think you'll find it was "Where's my Victoria Sponge?"

 

[SBT]

Are those what the seats at Fulham look like?! Those are proper old school…

 

[CDK]

I think you'll find it was "Where's my Victoria Sponge?"

There seats in the Johnny Haynes stand.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Except perhaps Bournemouth away, generally when we concede early we fold easily. As MR said perhaps that's then down to just thinking 'we need to chase the game now' and not calmly sticking to the plan with effectively a whole game still to play.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Except perhaps Bournemouth away, generally when we concede early we fold easily. As MR said perhaps that's then down to just thinking 'we need to chase the game now' and not calmly sticking to the plan with effectively a whole game still to play.

I heard him say that but not sure I’d agree we chased the game

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I heard him say that but not sure I’d agree we chased the game

I know what he means though, hurrying things along, trying to force something which then creates more errors. If you're playing a tie over 2 legs and start the second leg 1-0 down you don't have to panic

 

[Liquid Gold]

It was the unrest in the camp when MR was approached for the Forest job

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I know what he means though, hurrying things along, trying to force something which then creates more errors. If you're playing a tie over 2 legs and start the second leg 1-0 down you don't have to panic

Yep ok that’s wise yep

 

[cc84cov]

Was it just the start of the game?

Complacency?

Too open?

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Liam Kelly

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Liam Kelly

I hope he does make that sort of difference

 

[Grendel]

Was it just the start of the game?

Complacency?

Too open?

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The result

 

[skyblueeyesrevisited]

I think you'll find it was "Where's my Victoria Sponge?"

Never mind the cake, didn’t you notice the cockney tosser is tooled up! Can’t get in the CBS Arena with a plastic bottle unless the caps removed.

 

[Esoterica]

The Robins way for most of his 2nd time here now has generally been to keep things tight in the first half and then go for it when the game opens up in the 2nd half of games. I think part of the reason that has worked so well at home is the away team 'a point away from home is a good result' mentality - they're 1-0 up away from home, let's see the game out.

13 of our 14 goals in 6 home matches have been in the 2nd half of the game:


In those 6 home games we've turned around 3 halftime deficits to win those matches - 6 wins and we've only been winning at HT in 1 home game (Cardiff):


If you compare that to away goal times the contrast is incredible.
13 goals in 6 second halves at home
vs
0 goals in 5 second halves away:


We seem much fitter this year as a team but it can't be solely about that, as we're evidently not wearing teams down away from home given we haven't scored in the 2nd half and have continued to concede.

Robins alluded to it himself when he suggested we need a different approach away from home. Teams will come at you harder at home, encouraged by their own fans. Teams want to win their home games, put teams to bed and they won't 'settle for a draw'. Luton was an extreme example of that, they just kept attacking and attacking.

At home we catch teams out with pacey counter attacks but I wouldn't be surprised to see the return of the box midfield in our next away game, to try and take the control away from home teams in the midfield so we can dictate the game more.

 

[Warwickhunt]

I heard him say that but not sure I’d agree we chased the game

he meant some chased the game and some didnt hence the reason our defence went from a flat line of 4 to a broken line of 4
and Salter-Clarke was out of line with the other 3 and subsequently left their player on their right side room to cross the ball in for the second!

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

he meant some chased the game and some didnt hence the reason our defence went from a flat line of 4 to a broken line of 4
and Salter-Clarke was out of line with the other 3 and subsequently left their player on their right side room to cross the ball in for the second!

Ok

 

[robbiekeane]

The Robins way for most of his 2nd time here now has generally been to keep things tight in the first half and then go for it when the game opens up in the 2nd half of games. I think part of the reason that has worked so well at home is the away team 'a point away from home is a good result' mentality - they're 1-0 up away from home, let's see the game out.

13 of our 14 goals in 6 home matches have been in the 2nd half of the game:
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In those 6 home games we've turned around 3 halftime deficits to win those matches - 6 wins and we've only been winning at HT in 1 home game (Cardiff):
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If you compare that to away goal times the contrast is incredible.
13 goals in 6 second halves at home
vs
0 goals in 5 second halves away:
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We seem much fitter this year as a team but it can't be solely about that, as we're evidently not wearing teams down away from home given we haven't scored in the 2nd half and have continued to concede.

Robins alluded to it himself when he suggested we need a different approach away from home. Teams will come at you harder at home, encouraged by their own fans. Teams want to win their home games, put teams to bed and they won't 'settle for a draw'. Luton was an extreme example of that, they just kept attacking and attacking.

At home we catch teams out with pacey counter attacks but I wouldn't be surprised to see the return of the box midfield in our next away game, to try and take the control away from home teams in the midfield so we can dictate the game more.

Thanks, what site is this from?