When are the trust going to reveal the truth?? (1 Viewer)

longjohnskyblue · Aug 26, 2013

Months ago they were going to reveal to everyone the real extent of the fighting fund.

Still waiting guys!

Are you ever going to tell your members where this fund stands?

Or is it just being used to pay for the fuel to go to sixfields & keep the guy making the banners in business?

What about the newspaper spread? Or is the fighting fund just a fund for the board to use for themselves?

Your silence as always is deafening

TurkeyTrot · Aug 26, 2013

84pence and 10 no6

We'll_live_and_die · Aug 26, 2013

There is nothing to stop them running to Spain with everyones money. But people still donate

GaryPendrysEyes · Aug 26, 2013

Yeah but others pay at Sixfields and that goes to the Cayman Islands....
But to be serious, of course the Trust need to be open and transparent, especially re funding.

shmmeee · Aug 26, 2013

Rich said:
There is nothing to stop them running to Spain with everyones money. But people still donate

Yeah. Only, you know "the law". You do know the Trust is a recognised organisation with clear rules on finance don't you?

We'll_live_and_die · Aug 26, 2013

shmmeee said:
Yeah. Only, you know "the law". You do know the Trust is a recognised organisation with clear rules on finance don't you?

Unless they disband/liquidate the trust. If they are clever enough to get 5000 people to donate at least £1 each then I am sure they can work a way ro get away with the cash.

Skybluesquirrel · Aug 26, 2013

Had a quick look to see how much an advert is with the Telegraph but no luck - think you have to ask for a quote. However, to advertise in the Liverpool Echo (also owned by Trinity Mirror) is £7888, so you are looking at around £10,000 to £12,000 plus VAT for your double page spread. Good value for money?

However, surely its obvious that they are all working for free and in their spare time. Most, if not all will have day jobs. If they were looking to line their own pockets, as I think you are suggesting, there are far simpler ways to do than taking from the trust. The trust is always going to be subject to public scrutiny and so high risk.

shmmeee · Aug 26, 2013

Rich said:
Unless they disband/liquidate the trust. If they are clever enough to get 5000 people to donate at least £1 each then I am sure they can work a way ro get away with the cash.

Alright. Tell you what. If the board run off with your money I'll personally report the Chair to the police. Unless you're implying this money will be enough to start a new life?

Edit: educate yourself before spreading your libellous crap: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_and_provident_society

Steve.B50 · Aug 26, 2013

longjohnskyblue said:
Months ago they were going to reveal to everyone the real extent of the fighting fund.

Still waiting guys!

Are you ever going to tell your members where this fund stands? Your members, not you?
Or is it just being used to pay for the fuel to go to sixfields & keep the guy making the banners in business?

What about the newspaper spread? Or is the fighting fund just a fund for the board to use for themselves?

Your silence as always is deafening

presume you are talking about me?

Well I suggest you join the Trust then come to a meeting sit down with our Accountant and Book keeper, they will tell you to the penny how much is in both accounts.

1) I pay for my own fuel via my company.
2) All banners and leaflets are donated free of charge.
3) No idea what your talking about regarding a Newspaper spread
3) Me Silent, you do not know me, am never quiet

We are very tranparent, if you join the Trust I will meet you at the open meeting with other members on Sept 2nd where anyone can ask anything they wish.

Ms_whiplash · Aug 26, 2013

I see you are back 'Mr Tiny Dick' but have changed your name!!! But you still spout the same old drivel.
What exactly have you ever done to get the club playing back in Coventry???
Do tell I am sure we would all be interested to hear.
The trust guys give all their free time to the cause and they work damn hard and at their own expense. I suggest you shut you bloody great gob and do us all a favour and clear off!!!!!

ohitsaidwalker king power · Aug 26, 2013

Society is so cynical
There is no evidence to suggest any wrong doing by any sky blue trust member and yet threads like this?
Im.not. a fee paying member but respect their efforts.
Good luck to them in bringing the sky blues home.

Skybluesquirrel · Aug 26, 2013

McGinity saw an opportunity to make money after reading the Taylor report and so started up a company making plastic seats for sports venues. He made a fortune, so much so he ended up putting some of his money into the Club, whilst no doubt charging the club full whack for any seats purchased when redeveloping the Kop etc.

Andrew Turbitt is on the board of SBT and runs a printing business. I'm not a member of the trust but I will run round Broadgate stark bollock naked if he has charged more than the full commercial rate when printing up any leaflets (if indeed his company has done any of the printing). I'd suggest he will have done it at cost, maybe even below cost.

Its a case of priorities. And lining their own pockets is not going to be high on the list for members of the trust.

Nick · Aug 26, 2013

Steve.B50 said:
presume you are talking about me?

Well I suggest you join the Trust then come to a meeting sit down with our Accountant and Book keeper, they will tell you to the penny how much is in both accounts.

1) I pay for my own fuel via my company.
2) All banners and leaflets are donated free of charge.
3) No idea what your talking about regarding a Newspaper spread
3) Me Silent, you do not know me, am never quiet

We are very tranparent, if you join the Trust I will meet you at the open meeting with other members on Sept 2nd where anyone can ask anything they wish.

Think Steve has just answered all questions....

SkyblueBazza · Aug 26, 2013

Steve.B50 said:
1) I pay for my own fuel via my company.

Please clarify

Steve.B50 · Aug 26, 2013

SkyblueBazza said:
Please clarify

Sorry, what are you asking?

If your my accountant it was fuel used for a business meeting lol

covmark · Aug 26, 2013

longjohnskyblue said:
Months ago they were going to reveal to everyone the real extent of the fighting fund.

Still waiting guys!

Are you ever going to tell your members where this fund stands?

Or is it just being used to pay for the fuel to go to sixfields & keep the guy making the banners in business?

What about the newspaper spread? Or is the fighting fund just a fund for the board to use for themselves?

Your silence as always is deafening

ahh pgsm1, rising from your pit, like the steam off a freshly laid turd.
Good to have you back

Steve.B50 · Aug 26, 2013

Skybluesquirrel said:
McGinity saw an opportunity to make money after reading the Taylor report and so started up a company making plastic seats for sports venues. He made a fortune, so much so he ended up putting some of his money into the Club, whilst no doubt charging the club full whack for any seats purchased when redeveloping the Kop etc.

Andrew Turbitt is on the board of SBT and runs a printing business. I'm not a member of the trust but I will run round Broadgate stark bollock naked if he has charged more than the full commercial rate when printing up any leaflets (if indeed his company has done any of the printing). I'd suggest he will have done it at cost, maybe even below cost.

Its a case of priorities. And lining their own pockets is not going to be high on the list for members of the trust.

It is Andy, he is a very hard working individual and its way of helping the Trust, as are most people on the Board.

Houdi · Aug 26, 2013

Rich said:
There is nothing to stop them running to Spain with everyones money. But people still donate

Now you have got me really worried, I gave a £1,and now it seems you are suggesting I have unwittingly given money to a criminal group possibly heading off to sunny Spain at my expense. I feel such a mug, don't suppose you have got the number of SISU's legal representatives.:thinking about:

SkyblueBazza · Aug 26, 2013

Steve.B50 said:
Sorry, what are you asking?

If your my accountant it was fuel used for a business meeting lol

I just find a few ironic twists in this single statement & subsequent response.
You are, for the sake of argument we'll keep it tame, "tweaking" your business miles to avoid some kind of personal out-of-pocket payment...& you are not being transparent with your accountant by lying to him...& downright dishonest in avoidance of tax.
Skyblue "Trust"...lol
I applaud your organisations efforts to get what we all really want, but I think my original sentiments about the trust would/will come to fruition too. Power is a marvellous corrupter.

Skybluesquirrel · Aug 26, 2013

Steve.B50 said:
It is Andy, he is a very hard working individual and its way of helping the Trust, as are most people on the Board.

The good people of Coventry can breathe a sigh of relief - I don't have to run round Broadgate naked. Not that I thought for a minute I would have to...

DazzleTommyDazzle · Aug 26, 2013

I had assumed that this was a joke thread.

It was, wasn't it??????

Deleted member 5849 · Aug 26, 2013

Rich said:
There is nothing to stop them running to Spain with everyones money. But people still donate

Doubt they'd get far on my pound.

Maybe they fancy running away to Cheylsmore.

Deleted member 5849 · Aug 26, 2013

DazzleTommyDazzle said:
I had assumed that this was a joke thread.

It was, wasn't it??????

Well, I'm not joking when I say they're more than welcome to go to Cheylsmore.

Skybluesquirrel · Aug 26, 2013

SkyblueBazza said:
I just find a few ironic twists in this single statement & subsequent response.
You are, for the sake of argument we'll keep it tame, "tweaking" your business miles to avoid some kind of personal out-of-pocket payment...& you are not being transparent with your accountant by lying to him...& downright dishonest in avoidance of tax.
Skyblue "Trust"...lol
I applaud your organisations efforts to get what we all really want, but I think my original sentiments about the trust would/will come to fruition too. Power is a marvellous corrupter.

'Downright dishonest in avoidance of tax'

A couple of miles of a possibly questionable petrol/mileage claim (from a completely separate legal entity to the Trust) and the Trust members are up there with the bankers.

Are you now going to now start a campaign against the use of tax 'efficiencies' where certain investment vehicles etc base their parent companies in off shore tax havens, redistributing funds on a massive scale that undermines national budgets by the lack of profits to be subjected to tax? Steve's petrol claim pales into insignificance by comparison, if he chooses to make it.

But well spotted. Power is a marvellous corrupter. SISU have the power to take the club out of the city and yet some people still support their 'plans' regardless and have a pop at the largely powerless SBT.

letsallsingtogether · Aug 26, 2013

If people are that worried they should have gone to the last meeting at the squirrel this was open to everyone.
The annual report was read out to everyone and the books on display.

Now for someone to accuse a Trust organisation of fiddling is utter scandalous without any proof what so ever.

They have 2000 or so members all paid £1.00 they have had a couple of fund raising do's and some members would have paid more then a pound.

So how much do you expect them to have?

Oh it must be millions maybe they could pay off the club debts with it?

Come on Smart Ass you know it all

First you come on here shouting how you were a General in the SAS now you have come back as a fucking pirate so captain Pugwash what a Walter Mitty you really are.

I am a member of the trust I help out when I can it takes up a lot of my spare time but I only do a fraction of what a lot of the others do.

We all do it for a reason our love for CCFC some believe that going to games will help us others boycotting and demonstrating then theirs you NOTHING absolutely fuck all

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Aug 26, 2013

longjohnskyblue said:
Months ago they were going to reveal to everyone the real extent of the fighting fund.

Still waiting guys!

Are you ever going to tell your members where this fund stands?

Or is it just being used to pay for the fuel to go to sixfields & keep the guy making the banners in business?

What about the newspaper spread? Or is the fighting fund just a fund for the board to use for themselves?

Your silence as always is deafening

Why are you so interested? Its got nothing to do with you Paul

ricohman · Aug 26, 2013

There couldnt be that much members, so maybe the funds have gone. Wouldnt surprise me, 1000 pound dosnt go far

SonOfSnoz · Aug 26, 2013

Skybluesquirrel said:
McGinity saw an opportunity to make money after reading the Taylor report and so started up a company making plastic seats for sports venues. He made a fortune, so much so he ended up putting some of his money into the Club, whilst no doubt charging the club full whack for any seats purchased when redeveloping the Kop etc.

Andrew Turbitt is on the board of SBT and runs a printing business. I'm not a member of the trust but I will run round Broadgate stark bollock naked if he has charged more than the full commercial rate when printing up any leaflets (if indeed his company has done any of the printing). I'd suggest he will have done it at cost, maybe even below cost.

Its a case of priorities. And lining their own pockets is not going to be high on the list for members of the trust.

But PWKH said Mcginnity didn't kit out Ricoh, though am sure his company did seat the East stand at Highfield Rd.
Mcginnity is definately one of the reasons the club is in the state it is along with others!

letsallsingtogether · Aug 26, 2013

Come on Seamen Stains, pugwash, longjohn or whatever your name is where is you answer?

e are all waiting...............................

SonOfSnoz · Aug 26, 2013

When they going to publish them lady godiva calanders? That's my main question

TurkeyTrot · Aug 26, 2013

SonOfSnoz said:
When they going to publish them lady godiva calanders? That's my main question

not given up on it. Doing a lot of work behind the scenes on other stuff to raise funds for our Spanish holiday err I mean fighting fund and getting some ideas together to make the calendar a bit special

letsallsingtogether · Aug 26, 2013

Can I come Can I come pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

TurkeyTrot said:
not given up on it. Doing a lot of work behind the scenes on other stuff to raise funds for our Spanish holiday err I mean fighting fund and getting some ideas together to make the calendar a bit special

SkyblueBazza · Aug 26, 2013

Skybluesquirrel said:
'Downright dishonest in avoidance of tax'

A couple of miles of a possibly questionable petrol/mileage claim (from a completely separate legal entity to the Trust) and the Trust members are up there with the bankers.

Are you now going to now start a campaign against the use of tax 'efficiencies' where certain investment vehicles etc base their parent companies in off shore tax havens, redistributing funds on a massive scale that undermines national budgets by the lack of profits to be subjected to tax? Steve's petrol claim pales into insignificance by comparison, if he chooses to make it.

But well spotted. Power is a marvellous corrupter. SISU have the power to take the club out of the city and yet some people still support their 'plans' regardless and have a pop at the largely powerless SBT.

What I am talking is the principle of the right or wrong. You are applying scale.
Mr Taxman progressively tightens his grip on people (such as me) through the PAYE system that haven't the option to apply such "tweaking" when going about their lives.

Steve.B50 · Aug 26, 2013

SkyblueBazza said:
I just find a few ironic twists in this single statement & subsequent response.
You are, for the sake of argument we'll keep it tame, "tweaking" your business miles to avoid some kind of personal out-of-pocket payment...& you are not being transparent with your accountant by lying to him...& downright dishonest in avoidance of tax.
Skyblue "Trust"...lol
I applaud your organisations efforts to get what we all really want, but I think my original sentiments about the trust would/will come to fruition too. Power is a marvellous corrupter.

Let me just clarify my fuel costs. I said they are paid 'via my company' which is by means of a company fuel card that fills my car with fuel each and every week, I then re-imburse the company for my private mileage!!! But the point I was making is that none of the trust board claim any fuel costs from the Trusts fighting fund!!!!!

SkyblueBazza · Aug 26, 2013

Steve.B50 said:
Let me just clarify my fuel costs. I said they are paid 'via my company' which is by means of a company fuel card that fills my car with fuel each and every week, I then re-imburse the company for my private mileage!!! But the point I was making is that none of the trust board claim any fuel costs from the Trusts fighting fund!!!!!

Much better.

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