Remember being at Preston maybe 7/8 years ago and a couple of builders were sat in their half built stand to the left - they got "gayboy" abuse all game and no-one batted an eyelid. Not saying it's right, but just shows how much the game has moved on when a 15-second chant from a minority is now topic for debate.
Personally, I think we're entering dangerous territory if everyone starts throwing a wobbly and taking offence about chants such as this - does this mean we cannot now mock stereotypes for any players/supporters? No more "fat bastard" chants? Cannot call the Welsh "sheep shaggers"? Leicester fans "inbreds"? I could go on. People need to lighten up.
While you can never eliminate these things entirely, I'd disagree that homophobic chanting will always be part of the game. The fact it stands out enough to warrant a thread is testament to how attitudes are changing.
... Professional footballs are having to hide their true identity because of the fear of abuse and this sort of thing is the reason why.
Agreed. It would be shameful to passively accept that homophobic chants will always exist.
The only way to progress is to highlight chants like this every time they're sung and to shame those who are singing them.
Nice to see some casual homophobia is 'just a bit of fun' and 'no big deal'.
I'd say derogatory homophobic chanting is a big deal. You'd have probably claimed that throwing bananas at black players was no big deal as well though.
Some of the Gay people around that heard might have found it a big deal though
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shame them?
they wont give a fuck
(Clears throat) we've got (clap clap) Stuart Beavon (repeat x 3 or 4 times)
Then a load of mumbled words. No idea what they're saying but pretty sure it makes no sense.
And don't get me started on the one where they all jump up and down after a few 'woah's' and claps. You know the one right?
Perhaps some people who were gay might have got upset about it. I personally think it's low, but it isn't particularly viscous. In reality it's a bunch of twats who haven't grown up, and some spotty chavs just making some moronic comments.
The last time I heard that at a game I was in a group of 10, 2 of which were gay, and they both joined in and started singing it. I found that quite funny. I also think nearly all the gay people I know would have been anything other than bothered about it, not that it makes it ok. It's more a case of blowing things out of proportion as I know some people on here would want the culprits thrown in jail. I'd say the best remedy is education. Give the pricks a night out with my mates, they'd soon realise there's nothing wrong with being gay.
To infer that joking about the colour of someone's shirt and their sexuality is akin to throwing bananas at black people is also just ridiculous, and embarrassing.
Some of your faux-outrage and virtue signalling is really quite patronising actually.
Barneys rhyme?
wtf? are you 7?
Re the OP, 20 years ago you would have got away with this kind of chant, nowadays in this day and age you can't really sing something like that due to the public pressure to eradicate these types of concerns.
Times change as does society and therefore it's not really acceptable (in my view).
If I see a GK wearing a shocking coloured kit (Chesterfield for example) I try to come up with something less incriminating and humourous, so I called the keeper Barney the Dinosaur, I even sang Barney's rhyme to him, but it's all banter, he even applauded the City fans at the end of the game, so you can tell it wasn't taken to heart, fans need to be more inventive in that sense.
It's called B-A-N-T-E-R after all what else do you see that is 6ft tall and dressed completely in Purple? :smug:
You've just proven my next point that that's barely any good jokes to come out of mocking the opposition's kit!
You are right, time does move on. Recently there was an issue with England fans making nazi gestures and doing the basil fawlty to Germany fans in Dortmund. Fans said it's fine because it's banter, the FA said time moves on from the days of basil fawlty and it is now a crime to sing about or make these gestures. If people can't accept it, then they should be prepared to be banned for doing it.
Well...I personally haven't any of that faux-outrage you mention.Perhaps some people who were gay might have got upset about it. I personally think it's low, but it isn't particularly viscous. In reality it's a bunch of twats who haven't grown up, and some spotty chavs just making some moronic comments.
The last time I heard that at a game I was in a group of 10, 2 of which were gay, and they both joined in and started singing it. I found that quite funny. I also think nearly all the gay people I know would have been anything other than bothered about it, not that it makes it ok. It's more a case of blowing things out of proportion as I know some people on here would want the culprits thrown in jail. I'd say the best remedy is education. Give the pricks a night out with my mates, they'd soon realise there's nothing wrong with being gay.
To infer that joking about the colour of someone's shirt and their sexuality is akin to throwing bananas at black people is also just ridiculous, and embarrassing.
Some of your faux-outrage and virtue signalling is really quite patronising actually.
Imo - it does have a conotation that sends a message gay people that they are both some lower form of life & are a reasonable target for ridicule/bullying behaviourI'm not surprised you're trying to stigmatise empathy through accusing others of virtue signalling. There clearly are gay people who are uncomfortable with the chanting, including a poster on this thread.
I thought banter was a 2-way thing? This was a group of people targeting an individual to mock/abuse. I think that's called bullyingIt's called B-A-N-T-E-R after all what else do you see that is 6ft tall and dressed completely in Purple? :smug:
I thought banter was a 2-way thing? This was a group of people targeting an individual to mock/abuse. I think that's called bullying
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Well...I personally haven't any of that faux-outrage you mention.
And given your insight, if I see said tw**s/spotty chavs dissecting your car after a game I'll just let them get on with it. They will grow up eventually.
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I'm certain there would be some who found it hilarious doesn't mean that others would and that's it an OK thing to do.Perhaps some people who were gay might have got upset about it.
Tell me where you live Fatso? I will be around to sat it to your face. I will be wearing a gimp suitIf you said that to my face, my boyfriend would slap you and I'd give you a good fisting!
Thing is I bet none of them post or even read the threads on here.I'm not sure that's true. There are a hardcore of homophobic pricks who'll do it regardless but those who just join in because it's what everybody else is doing will soon stop if the common consensus becomes that we don't accept homophobic chants at football.
Sat it to your face? Was that deliberate?Tell me where you live Fatso? I will be around to sat it to your face. I will be wearing a gimp suit
I meant saySat it to your face? Was that deliberate?
Thank fook for that!I meant say
If your life is made markedly worse by the inability to call someone a sheep shagger then you need to have a look at yourself.
You got the time? I've got the place!Take your watch off first
Ewe can do better than that.But I’m Chief Sheep Sexual Exploitation Prevention Officer!
Ewe can do better than that.
If your life is made markedly worse by the inability to call someone a sheep shagger then you need to have a look at yourself.
They should be baaaaredThe people chanting this stuff are the sheep.
Try singing it at a match these days, you'd get slung out. Duh!What would you have expected them to actually do???
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