Whole squad. Who stays, who goes? (2 Viewers)

[fernandopartridge]

You'd argue we look weaker generally at the back without him .. he seems to lead the line well and get in the other defenders ears all game .. don't really see it from the others .

We've shifted a few in the last couple months

He's a great organiser and leader which makes up for his lack of pace

 

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[sylus]

McFadz stays

shame he doesn't come out and say the same about . Cal. hamer and Gyokeres

 

[Ccfcisparks]

shame he doesn't come out and say the same about . Cal. hamer and Gyokeres

LOL Cal, Hamer and Gyo are not out of contract

 

[Deleted member 5849]

shame he doesn't come out and say the same about . Cal. hamer and Gyokeres

Two of whom have already signed their new contracts this season?

 

[sylus]

Two of whom have already signed their new contracts this season?

contracts, not really worth the paper they are written on, all except to get a bigger price when eventually they sell them.

 

[PVA]

contracts, not really worth the paper they are written on, all except to get a bigger price when eventually they sell them.

...so worth quite bit more than the paper they're written on then?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

contracts, not really worth the paper they are written on, all except to get a bigger price when eventually they sell them.

So McFadzean might be off then, and it's pointless what Robins says or doesn't.

 

[sylus]

So McFadzean might be off then, and it's pointless what Robins says or doesn't.

i'm glad fadz will be here nxt season, even though a bench warmer.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

i'm glad fadz will be here nxt season, even though a bench warmer.

He might not be here

 

[Ccfcisparks]

He might not be here

So somebodies going to come in and bid for him?

 

[AOM]

contracts, not really worth the paper they are written on, all except to get a bigger price when eventually they sell them.

Not really sure what else you want them to do?
Sign a blood pact?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

So somebodies going to come in and bid for him?

You never know, contracts arent worth the paper they're written on.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

You never know, contracts arent worth the paper they're written on.

I mean they literally are

 

[Deleted member 5849]

I mean they literally are

You're really rather hard work at times.

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

he has to move the manager doesn’t rate him

His last league start was in 2017. It would be negligence on our part to keep him to play in the 23s again

 

[Grendel]

I mean they literally are

The contract for the Ricoh wasn’t Sisu just stopped paying

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Anyway, away from all these jolly japes and frippery, if Mansfield or Burton, say, wanted McFadzean as player / coach or player / assistant manager, promising him regular first team football whereas we demoted him to second backup, then he'd be going wouldn't he.

 

[SmithyCCFC]

Would like to see Jodi Jones get some minutes towards the end of the season with a view to him challenging O’hare for a first team spot next season.

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

Would like to see Jodi Jones get some minutes towards the end of the season with a view to him challenging O’hare for a first team spot next season.

I think it’s fairly obvious he’s made his mind up already, he doesn’t need to see him for 10 minutes in a dead rubber

 

[CovBrummie94]

Would like to see Jodi Jones get some minutes towards the end of the season with a view to him challenging O’hare for a first team spot next season.

Sadly I think Jones' most recent injury scuppered any chance he had of making it with us. There's no time left to prove his worth. A few dead rubbers won't change opinions.

 

[SmithyCCFC]

Sadly I think Jones' most recent injury scuppered any chance he had of making it with us. There's no time left to prove his worth. A few dead rubbers won't change opinions.

Real shame I think we’ll regret letting him go. Far more naturally gifted than O’hare. Begs the question why we would keep Godden on when he has just as bad injury problems

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Real shame I think we’ll regret letting him go. Far more naturally gifted than O’hare. Begs the question why we would keep Godden on when he has just as bad injury problems

I mean I’m one to criticise Godden. But 3 ACL’s is slightly different. At least Godden can play 50% of the season

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

Real shame I think we’ll regret letting him go. Far more naturally gifted than O’hare. Begs the question why we would keep Godden on when he has just as bad injury problems

He last started a league game in 2017. We’re now in 2022

 

[CovBrummie94]

Real shame I think we’ll regret letting him go. Far more naturally gifted than O’hare. Begs the question why we would keep Godden on when he has just as bad injury problems

Godden has scored 12 league goals this season. As others have said Jones hasn't started since 2017 in the league. The 2 are hardly comparable.

 

[SmithyCCFC]

I mean I’m one to criticise Godden. But 3 ACL’s is slightly different. At least Godden can play 50% of the season

Godden has scored 12 league goals this season. As others have said Jones hasn't started since 2017 in the league. The 2 are hardly comparable.

He last started a league game in 2017. We’re now in 2022

Good points, poor comparison my bad

 

[procdoc]

Oh also we forgot about hillsner

Hilsner really was a puzzling signing. Had no decent reputation as a footballer so not sure why we gave him a 3 year deal

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Hilsner really was a puzzling signing. Had no decent reputation as a footballer so not sure why we gave him a 3 year deal

Werder Bremen and Paderborn, Bundesliga clubs at the time, have also signed Hilssner so no reputation is a bit harsh, as they clearly saw whatever we saw in terms of potential in there.

 

[CDK]

Hillsner
Waghorn
Decosta
Shipley
Drysdale
Pask
Kelly
If an 8million for O'Hare or hamer selling one of them then so be it.

 

[Finham]

I'd like to see us bring in a CB in the McFadz mould but with pace and a tenacious, mobile ball winning midfield.
Essentially a poor man's Virgil Van Djk and Roy Keane for peanuts
I think I might be disappointed.

It depends on how poor the man is, really!

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Would like to see Jodi Jones get some minutes towards the end of the season with a view to him challenging O’hare for a first team spot next season.

Although I can't see him challenging O'Hare for his spot (at best it'd be to play alongside him) given that we've renewed his contract for three years while he's been injured it would seem pointless to not at least give him some time to prove whether or not he could be a squad player here next year (personally i think he could be given his likely wages). It seems very odd that MR has given him so few opportunities (I don't think he's looked terrible in his brief time on the pitch) unless he has looked really poor in training.

 

[marrrkjay_ccfc]

Sell/Release

CB - Drysdale, Pask
RB - Da Costa
LB - Reid
WI - Jones, Hilsner
ST - Waghorn

Loan Out

Bapaga, Tavares, Burroughs, Cashman

Keep

GK - Moore, Wilson
CB - McFadzean, Hyam, Rose
RB - Dabo, Kane
LB - Bidwell
CM - Hamer, Sheaf, Allen, Kelly, Eccles
AM - O'Hare
ST - Gyokeres, Godden, Walker

Sign/Loan In

CB - Clarke-Salter (free), Ostigard (loan/free)
LB - Maatsen (1 year loan with option to buy)
CM - Browne (Preston North End)
AM - Honeyman (Hull City)
WI - Hernandez (Norwich City)
ST - Archer (1 year loan from Aston Villa)

If we are going to stick with a 3-4-2-1 / 3-4-1-2 formation, I think we really need to strengthen the defence and wing back areas. Would like to see us sign an out and out pacey winger just so we can change the formation when trailing in games.

 

[stupot07]

Sell/Release

CB - Drysdale, Pask
RB - Da Costa
LB - Reid
WI - Jones, Hilsner
ST - Waghorn

Loan Out

Bapaga, Tavares, Burroughs, Cashman

Keep

GK - Moore, Wilson
CB - McFadzean, Hyam, Rose
RB - Dabo, Kane
LB - Bidwell
CM - Hamer, Sheaf, Allen, Kelly, Eccles
AM - O'Hare
ST - Gyokeres, Godden, Walker

Sign/Loan In

CB - Clarke-Salter (free), Ostigard (loan/free)
LB - Maatsen (1 year loan with option to buy)
CM - Browne (Preston North End)
AM - Honeyman (Hull City)
WI - Hernandez (Norwich City)
ST - Archer (1 year loan from Aston Villa)

If we are going to stick with a 3-4-2-1 / 3-4-1-2 formation, I think we really need to strengthen the defence and wing back areas. Would like to see us sign an out and out pacey winger just so we can change the formation when trailing in games.

Reids only 19, and we paid a fee for him, and is contracted until summer 2024, definitely worth keeping and sending out on loan, I doubt we would get anything for him.

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[robbiekeane]

I’m actually feeling pretty miserable about this upcoming window.

Looks like Hamer is out for sure and I think we are much much weaker without him in the side. Not just technically is he the best player in the side but vision wise he’s always one step ahead of anyone else…always one pass ahead of everyone (even if his execution isn’t always perfect). It’s only him and maybe OHare who I don’t get nervous about receiving the ball under pressure.

Let’s say we got 8m for him and robins was given half of that to find a replacement. We are not going to be able to get anyone near as good for the money. I know we got him for 1m but he’s developed significantly since then and I’m not sure we can pull that off again

 

[Ccfcisparks]

I’m actually feeling pretty miserable about this upcoming window.

Looks like Hamer is out for sure and I think we are much much weaker without him in the side. Not just technically is he the best player in the side but vision wise he’s always one step ahead of anyone else…always one pass ahead of everyone (even if his execution isn’t always perfect). It’s only him and maybe OHare who I don’t get nervous about receiving the ball under pressure.

Let’s say we got 8m for him and robins was given half of that to find a replacement. We are not going to be able to get anyone near as good for the money. I know we got him for 1m but he’s developed significantly since then and I’m not sure we can pull that off again

I think Sheaf is very very close to Hamer technically. I think replacing Hamer is much easier than replacing COH or Viktor.

 

[robbiekeane]

I think Sheaf is very very close to Hamer technically. I think replacing Hamer is much easier than replacing COH or Viktor.

Maybe but very different player, think sheaf is more of a kelly style player. Hamer more in the Liam walsh mould.