Whos going to Northampton (1 Viewer)

[RoboCCFC90]

What I'm trying to say is that opinions can change and Otis was trying to change some people's opinions with some measured argument.

Have you never changed your opinion of someone or something during the course of your life, if you say "no" then you're a liar. You listen to others then put your side across, you may change your views yourself or the other person may nudge towards your opinion.

If people just "stuck to their own opinions" there would be no posting on this board. Variety is the spice of life my friend!

Of course they can be but they usually change when you have facts which at this moment the only fact is, we will be playing in Northampton and have signed a legal bond with the FL to say we will be returning to Coventry.

I am always happy to debate with people regarding their opinons but I would never tell someone not to do with there life and how they should act upon it, I give advice this is different.

 

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[gatesofvalhalla]

A first post for me fan of 44 years ,not going to Northampton,but it breaks my heart not to see the lads, but will go to a few away games.

 

[McLovin87]

Of course they can be but they usually change when you have facts which at this moment the only fact is, we will be playing in Northampton and have signed a legal bond with the FL to say we will be returning to Coventry.

I am always happy to debate with people regarding their opinons but I would never tell someone not to do with there life and how they should act upon it, I give advice this is different.

These facts are still a bit ropey, it could be 3 or 5 years we are at Sixfields, we don't know for sure. The bond you talk about is between a shady Hedgefund and a governing body who changes it's rules and regulations at the drop of a hat.

I would urge anyone to just have a rethink about attending Sixfields you still have time to change your mind. You are well within your rights to roll up to my house when I'm listening to CWR and make a peaceful protest, but don't wake the kids up on a night match.

 

[North York’s Blue]

Northampton is easier for me to get to but I wont be going; proper away games only starting at Crawley.

A lot of clubs in league 1 will have average attendances of less than 8k, if we take similar numbers away from home as last season we can effectively turn some of these games into 'home' games anyway, particulalry seeing as there are less midweek away games this season.

 

[RoboCCFC90]

These facts are still a bit ropey, it could be 3 or 5 years we are at Sixfields, we don't know for sure. The bond you talk about is between a shady Hedgefund and a governing body who changes it's rules and regulations at the drop of a hat.

I would urge anyone to just have a rethink about attending Sixfields you still have time to change your mind. You are well within your rights to roll up to my house when I'm listening to CWR and make a peaceful protest, but don't wake the kids up on a night match.

Yes it is very true, but unfortunately it's the only hard facts we have at the moment.

 

[Covstu]

For what its worth, i agree with Otis on this one but taking it a step further i dont agree with any protest in Northampton. We are protestign about the move to Northampton, that it is 34 miles (or whatever it is for you) but we will travel to Northampton to protest? Slightly ironic maybe??

We need to turn up to the home games at the Ricoh, its not about protesting infront of anyone its about getting noticed liek on Saturday (and lets face it SISU wont be at Northampton like they were hardly there at the Ricoh). Maybe ACL will open a stand and we can have a home game at the Ricoh over the radio!!

 

[Delboycov]

For what its worth, i agree with Otis on this one but taking it a step further i dont agree with any protest in Northampton. We are protestign about the move to Northampton, that it is 34 miles (or whatever it is for you) but we will travel to Northampton to protest? Slightly ironic maybe??

We need to turn up to the home games at the Ricoh, its not about protesting infront of anyone its about getting noticed liek on Saturday (and lets face it SISU wont be at Northampton like they were hardly there at the Ricoh). Maybe ACL will open a stand and we can have a home game at the Ricoh over the radio!!

I tend to agree with that Stu...a big part of the argument against this stupid plan...although probably a minor one in the overall scheme of things for me...is the distance to travel to attend 'home' games and if those games are attended in any numbers by those protesting outside then that leaves us wide open for that moral argument to be shot down in flames.

 

[Otis]

I tend to agree with that Stu...a big part of the argument against this stupid plan...although probably a minor one in the overall scheme of things for me...is the distance to travel to attend 'home' games and if those games are attended in any numbers by those protesting outside then that leaves us wide open for that moral argument to be shot down in flames.

Agree with both those comments.

Two of the main things here are the time it takes and the cost incurred in getting there.

People don't want to travel to Northampton. For you to go to Northampton to protest you don't wish to go to Northampton just sounds a tad daft I feel.

 

[simple_simon]

You see That's what I don't agree with Otis, I don't think it will matter if one Cov fan turns up of 5,000, SISU are stubborn fuckers and I think they'll see this through to the end regardless, which will mean 5 years without watching my team play. I certainly won't be buying a season ticket and going every week like previous seasons but I'm not cutting off my nose to spite my face and never attending Northampton,

What if nobody goes, morale drops and the players don't perform, we get back to back relegations SISU continue to play hard ball and refusing to sell up claiming they will "turn it all around when the new stadiums built" and we end up going out of business anyway.

I don't see that me and my daughter going to watch Cov in Northampton is going to matter a great deal in the grand scheme of what happens with this club

If no one went the FL would see that everything Tim Fisher has told them was Rubbish and they would have to change there minds.
Do you not understand that all you are doing is fueling the Fisher cause and the FL will believe what Fisher says?
I know its had but if everyone was stroing and not one fan went the FL would revert there stance,

 

[McLovin87]

Agree with both those comments.

Two of the main things here are the time it takes and the cost incurred in getting there.

People don't want to travel to Northampton. For you to go to Northampton to protest you don't wish to go to Northampton just sounds a tad daft I feel.

For me it is more the principle rather than the cost etc, even if they had hauled us to a 20,000 seater stadium 10 miles down the road I would still not be going.

I would be more than willing to put up with the travel and expense to protest at Sixfields because that we would be on my terms. Watching City over there would be on SISU's terms and there would be no way I would shell out money to push their agenda forward.

 

[Otis]

For me it is more the principle rather than the cost etc, even if they had hauled us to a 20,000 seater stadium 10 miles down the road I would still not be going.

I would be more than willing to put up with the travel and expense to protest at Sixfields because that we would be on my terms. Watching City over there would be on SISU's terms and there would be no way I would shell out money to push their agenda forward.

Fair enough.

 

[Hastingsskyblue]

Thing is its not about going to Northampton showing support, its the fact that if we all turn up on 'Jimmys Hill' the police need to police us and that will incur costs against Shitsu that they will have to pay without getting any income, also it will F*** off Northamton because they get all the grief without any benefits

this is the only way to make Shitsu hurt, and anyone against going to Northamton and camping on 'Jimmys Hill' during the match must be Shitsu in disguise?

I will be there as many 'Home' Games as i can, and I ask everyone that wants the great Sky Blues to return to Coventry to do the same##

PUSB

 

[west terrace lad]

I will not go to Home games at sixfields because

1. Its not in Coventry

2. Games played on a sunday means not having a proper session on the pop, Monday hangovers at work are not good. having a few beers before and after the game in the casino at the Ricoh was a saturday match ritual, fooking hate sisu for taking that away from me

 

[coop]

Not for me i will hate not going but thats the only way i can see us ever getting close to even the championship starving Sisu of funds will probably end up us going bust but at least we could start again.not looking forward to the new season at all.

 

[Paxman II]

Again lots of presumptions on here and no factual basis. 3 years is the deal agreed with the league agreeing to return to Coventry then or sooner. SISU have said they will fund the period away. You're not going won't change that. You are not starving them, they are prepared it seems to starve themselves.
The current owners need to find a way out of the football club and some return on investment. It will not happen by fans believing in their 'starvation' methods. If you don't support the club then are you not in support of the council/ACL?
Considering they are both culpable for this debacle I find it difficult that anyone can take sides in all this. Most of what we know is sketchy at best and pure assumption on the other hand.
Nope I'll go (though as ever just a handful of games) simply to watch how the team copes under this new arrangement, support the players putting on the Sky Blue shirt which surely helps to keep our great club alive and in survival mode until some conclusion can be sort? Doing nothing seems to me not to be an option.
IF and it's perhaps still a big if, they do return with a new stadium and therefore finally some forward looking prospects will you still keep refusing to support SISU? Please keep in mind the Ricoh arena is not the Sky Blues stadium but merely a rented venue. Now if only we could own a piece of it, none of this would be happening?

 

[Otis]

Again lots of presumptions on here and no factual basis. 3 years is the deal agreed with the league agreeing to return to Coventry then or sooner. SISU have said they will fund the period away. You're not going won't change that. You are not starving them, they are prepared it seems to starve themselves.
The current owners need to find a way out of the football club and some return on investment. It will not happen by fans believing in their 'starvation' methods. If you don't support the club then are you not in support of the council/ACL?
Considering they are both culpable for this debacle I find it difficult that anyone can take sides in all this. Most of what we know is sketchy at best and pure assumption on the other hand.
Nope I'll go (though as ever just a handful of games) simply to watch how the team copes under this new arrangement, support the players putting on the Sky Blue shirt which surely helps to keep our great club alive and in survival mode until some conclusion can be sort? Doing nothing seems to me not to be an option.
IF and it's perhaps still a big if, they do return with a new stadium and therefore finally some forward looking prospects will you still keep refusing to support SISU? Please keep in mind the Ricoh arena is not the Sky Blues stadium but merely a rented venue. Now if only we could own a piece of it, none of this would be happening?

It's not taking sides though, Pax.

ALL sides are culpable.

Only one side however is physically taking the club away from the fans and the city it belongs in.

I will not go to Northampton, full stop. I do not see that in any way that is therefore me supporting the council. It's not. It's me protesting against my club being taken away from me and that's all.

 

[Buster]

I will not be going to sixfields this year next year or in fact any of the possible 5.
I will not be going to sisu ansty or sisu Brandon.
If we all stood together, after this season (if not before) Joy ,Tim,the investors and the whole (interested) world would realise that this exercise just ain't gonna work ! Who in their right mind would invest their hard earned money in this ongoing failure and give Joy 30 million for a new ghost of a stadium that stands for everything bad in footbal lSure you can go to sixfields but on Saturday we saw 5000 reasons why you shouldn't . PUSB

 

[Paxman II]

It's not taking sides though, Pax.

ALL sides are culpable.

Only one side however is physically taking the club away from the fans and the city it belongs in.

I will not go to Northampton, full stop. I do not see that in any way that is therefore me supporting the council. It's not. It's me protesting against my club being taken away from me and that's all.

Yep I agree with that too O. But the bit where you say only one side is taking us away physically is ambiguous. By that you mean this SISU lot but what choice do they have other than say accept what everyone wants them to and play at the Ricoh simply because we demand it? They are doing it for the very reason they have been given no choice (in their opinion) and you can't make an argument out of that unless you are backing whatever ACL say? If there was another stadium in Coventry I'm sure they would have gone there.

 

[Otis]

Yep I agree with that too O. But the bit where you say only one side is taking us away physically is ambiguous. By that you mean this SISU lot but what choice do they have other than say accept what everyone wants them to and play at the Ricoh simply because we demand it? They are doing it for the very reason they have been given no choice (in their opinion) and you can't make an argument out of that unless you are backing whatever ACL say? If there was another stadium in Coventry I'm sure they would have gone there.

I am not backing what ACL say.

I do recall though Tim Fisher at the forums. He was quite clearly asked by the Trust if he would meet with ACL and he said he would not. He also was adamant that City would never play at the Ricoh again. It was this intransigence that alienated so many.

There is always room for more talks and more discussion and he should have been fighting tooth and nail to stay at the Ricoh. When the Trust wanted to arrange a meeting between ACL and Sisu he should have embraced that.

He seemed determined NOT to listen to what the fans wanted. The fans said they would not travel to another town or city and yet he seems determined to move us anyway.

Sisu may own us, but the fans ARE the club.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I am not backing what ACL say.

I do recall though Tim Fisher at the forums. He was quite clearly asked by the Trust if he would meet with ACL and he said he would not. He also was adamant that City would never play at the Ricoh again. It was this intransigence that alienated so many.

There is always room for more talks and more discussion and he should have been fighting tooth and nail to stay at the Ricoh. When the Trust wanted to arrange a meeting between ACL and Sisu he should have embraced that.

He seemed determined NOT to listen to what the fans wanted. The fans said they would not travel to another town or city and yet he seems determined to move us anyway.

Sisu may own us, but the fans ARE the club.

Absolutely - the fans ARE the club!

 

[rob9872]

Go to sixfields and you'll soon feel like a wimbledon fan that now supports mk. What happens when eventually the players you're cheering are wearing a new strip and th n they change their name ... but you'll say its still cov really they're my team ... need to go properly bust if they won't sell so that we all rise together as one

NOPM

Sisu out

 

[oldskyblue58]

Everyone is entitled to make their own personal choice and that should be without fear of abuse etc

go to Northampton ?- No not me

 

[elephanttears]

I will not watch a cov home game outside of the city, i just cant do it.

 

[Lock]

My two boys and I have just got back from Cheltenham. It was marvellous to see how Pressley is bringing those young lads on. It was a joy to watch. It just emphasises the great shame of making our children suffer because of SISU's ruthlessness! Why punish yourself because of ACL's ineptitude? Why abandon the players when others are at fault? They shouldn't be punished. For some of them, this is the only chance they'll have. What a tragedy to starve them of your applause.
We can still protest, complain and make a noise, but it is cruel to abandon the team we love.
I also say that we shouldn't feel intimidated by those who feel differently. That's their rightful choice. My preference is to let my love of the team dominate my actions. For me, that's the greater good.
History shows that hatred and anger rarely bring positive change. What would Nelson Mandella advise if he were able to offer us his wise counsel? Reconciliation is the answer, not retribution.
Don't be ashamed to go to Northampton if no solution is found. Pray that it is but, if it isn't, let's try to change things positively not crucify those young lads by failing to give them our voices, our applause and our hearts.

 

[Otis]

I will not watch a cov home game outside of the city, i just cant do it.

I could do it, but it would be just plain wrong.

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[Jack Griffin]

My two boys and I have just got back from Cheltenham. It was marvellous to see how Pressley is bringing those young lads on. It was a joy to watch. It just emphasises the great shame of making our children suffer because of SISU's ruthlessness! Why punish yourself because of ACL's ineptitude? Why abandon the players when others are at fault? They shouldn't be punished. For some of them, this is the only chance they'll have. What a tragedy to starve them of your applause.
We can still protest, complain and make a noise, but it is cruel to abandon the team we love.
I also say that we shouldn't feel intimidated by those who feel differently. That's their rightful choice. My preference is to let my love of the team dominate my actions. For me, that's the greater good.
History shows that hatred and anger rarely bring positive change. What would Nelson Mandella advise if he were able to offer us his wise counsel? Reconciliation is the answer, not retribution.
Don't be ashamed to go to Northampton if no solution is found. Pray that it is but, if it isn't, let's try to change things positively not crucify those young lads by failing to give them our voices, our applause and our hearts.

It is SISU who are guilty of abandonment.

Nelson Mandela led a bombing campaign in the 60's, he was no pacifist & knew that sometimes it is necessary to fight.

 

[Lock]

Hi Jack, I'm just trying to put another point of view forward. Whilst I have previously attributed blame in SISU's direction its not the complete answer. In fact, it keeps me awake at night and has been unsettling me for weeks. My solution is to think about it differently, in the way I described, and its right for me. As for Mandela, we all grow and change, Jack. Keeping anger and frustration as companions only harms ourselves. Anyway, I'm not out to damn or deny your viewpoint, because I've shared it. Ive changed my thinking now and it feels right for me. Simple as that..

 

[Nonleagueherewecome]

My two boys and I have just got back from Cheltenham. It was marvellous to see how Pressley is bringing those young lads on. It was a joy to watch. It just emphasises the great shame of making our children suffer because of SISU's ruthlessness! Why punish yourself because of ACL's ineptitude? Why abandon the players when others are at fault? They shouldn't be punished. For some of them, this is the only chance they'll have. What a tragedy to starve them of your applause.
We can still protest, complain and make a noise, but it is cruel to abandon the team we love.
I also say that we shouldn't feel intimidated by those who feel differently. That's their rightful choice. My preference is to let my love of the team dominate my actions. For me, that's the greater good.
History shows that hatred and anger rarely bring positive change. What would Nelson Mandella advise if he were able to offer us his wise counsel? Reconciliation is the answer, not retribution.
Don't be ashamed to go to Northampton if no solution is found. Pray that it is but, if it isn't, let's try to change things positively not crucify those young lads by failing to give them our voices, our applause and our hearts.

Somehow I don't think Mandella would be on your side...he'd probably be arranging protests! For shame that you invoke him to back your message.

And you won't pacify us angry fans by saying "hey, chill out, smoke this!"

 

[Nonleagueherewecome]

Hi Jack, I'm just trying to put another point of view forward. Whilst I have previously attributed blame in SISU's direction its not the complete answer. In fact, it keeps me awake at night and has been unsettling me for weeks. My solution is to think about it differently, in the way I described, and its right for me. As for Mandela, we all grow and change, Jack. Keeping anger and frustration as companions only harms ourselves. Anyway, I'm not out to damn or deny your viewpoint, because I've shared it. Ive changed my thinking now and it feels right for me. Simple as that..

I call that selling out your convictions and lobotomising your conscience.

 

[georgehudson]

in days / months / years to come,
how will Mr F & sisu be thought of ?

 

[simple_simon]

Even the idiots on GMK are having some doubts about going to Northasmpton.
Those who do go are just putting nails into the coffin of CCFC.

 

[McLovin87]

My two boys and I have just got back from Cheltenham. It was marvellous to see how Pressley is bringing those young lads on. It was a joy to watch. It just emphasises the great shame of making our children suffer because of SISU's ruthlessness! Why punish yourself because of ACL's ineptitude? Why abandon the players when others are at fault? They shouldn't be punished. For some of them, this is the only chance they'll have. What a tragedy to starve them of your applause.
We can still protest, complain and make a noise, but it is cruel to abandon the team we love.
I also say that we shouldn't feel intimidated by those who feel differently. That's their rightful choice. My preference is to let my love of the team dominate my actions. For me, that's the greater good.
History shows that hatred and anger rarely bring positive change. What would Nelson Mandella advise if he were able to offer us his wise counsel? Reconciliation is the answer, not retribution.
Don't be ashamed to go to Northampton if no solution is found. Pray that it is but, if it isn't, let's try to change things positively not crucify those young lads by failing to give them our voices, our applause and our hearts.

These young players should know that we are not abandoning them and hopefully they will get the message when they see most away games packed to the rafters. I would say it would be the complete and utter diehards that travel to Sixfields so this could work to our advantage, you probably won't have the idiots there who start giving them grief after their first misplaced pass and knocking the confidence out of them.

Hopefully there will be a backs to the wall mentality at "home" with the lack of support and it could galvanise the team, it will be almost be like the home and away games have been reversed this season as these youngsters look forward to the fervent support they will get at away games.

It will kill me not to be there and support these young lads, as there is nothing better than watching young players grow and develop as a season progresses. This is why I want SISU out of this club as they have denied me the pleasure of doing so!

 

[Jack Griffin]

Hi Jack, I'm just trying to put another point of view forward. Whilst I have previously attributed blame in SISU's direction its not the complete answer. In fact, it keeps me awake at night and has been unsettling me for weeks. My solution is to think about it differently, in the way I described, and its right for me. As for Mandela, we all grow and change, Jack. Keeping anger and frustration as companions only harms ourselves. Anyway, I'm not out to damn or deny your viewpoint, because I've shared it. Ive changed my thinking now and it feels right for me. Simple as that..

Normally at this stage of the season I'd be taking a great interest in new players coming in & young players coming from the academy, but the only thing that matters is the big picture, the very future of the club. If it ain't in Coventry then the CCFC I've known all my life is dead. The way the owners are stressing everyone to get their way is appalling, but they've miscalculated and are beginning to back down.. because we've made them realise the fans are the club and they have to treat us with respect.

This is not anger, it is a rational strategy being taken to achieve a result.. but it isn't over yet. NOPM till contracts are signed sealed & delivered and the club is back in Coventry. There is still some way to go.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

These young players should know that we are not abandoning them and hopefully they will get the message when they see most away games packed to the rafters. I would say it would be the complete and utter diehards that travel to Sixfields so this could work to our advantage, you probably won't have the idiots there who start giving them grief after their first misplaced pass and knocking the confidence out of them.

Hopefully there will be a backs to the wall mentality at "home" with the lack of support and it could galvanise the team, it will be almost be like the home and away games have been reversed this season as these youngsters look forward to the fervent support they will get at away games.

It will kill me not to be there and support these young lads, as there is nothing better than watching young players grow and develop as a season progresses. This is why I want SISU out of this club as they have denied me the pleasure of doing so!

Absolutely right my friend. Hope the away games are completely sold out all season I fear that the squad will be so depleted we will struggle to compete

 

[Dhinsa's_Millions]

Surely when / if these talks fail there will be even more of a backlash - or is this SISU trying to deflect more blame onto ACL?!