Many, many posters on here proclaim that ACL and the council do not need the football. Many, many posters claim the club being at the Ricoh is a handicap.
Lots of other events could take place in the arena. Big truck racing (whatever that is) Northampton saints or Saracens rugby club, international show jumping, all year round rock concerts. Many believe that the facility souls outdo the NEC without the millstone of a football club. Apparently its worth many more millions than the club could afford and is a gold mine with the potential of new hotels. Again sure we are selfish to deny these scores of investors queuing for a piece of the action.
The backdrop to this is a council struggling to meet budgets and predictions of local service cuts and redundancies. So, surely the solution is obvious. The council identifies suitable sites in the city. It could sell unwanted land generating revenue and jobs while the Ricoh thrives as everyone says it will without the football club
You do not believe they will build a new stadium. So a bit of a pointless post.
Even you know that all council funds are ring fenced to each individual budge/ department. This affects nothing to do with cuts and redundunancies as you well know more smoke and mirrors
Seems a familiar theme from sisu also
PS sorry if I have missed capitals or punctuation , but I believe you can still read it
Hold on - yesterday you said the Ricoh is worth £60 million. That would wipe the budget defecit for the council. So if it is worth that there have to be interested parties (which you always say there are) who would pay the price. This isn't about sisu its about the council. Surely with this £60 million goldmine it's gross negligence if they do not sell to one of these many interested parties isn't it?
There is already a new retail centre by Morrisons which I believe is struggling to attract tenants at Binley. From what was said last night, there is no chance of SISU ever considering a site within the jurisdiction of CCC. Any announcement of land purchase etc is many many months away, was the clear message .It is a hugely complicated time consuming process apparently. Of course some fans may just conclude it is just more meaningless spin.If you are selling the surrounding land for retail then it needs to be near Coventry. No point in having a shopping centre at Ryton or Brandon, nobody would go.
Also if you buy 60acres of green belt and sell it as retail to make your money, why hasn't someone else done it ? So many question.
There is already a new retail centre by Morrisons which I believe is struggling to attract tenants at Binley. From what was said last night, there is no chance of SISU ever considering a site within the jurisdiction of CCC. Any announcement of land purchase etc is many many months away, was the clear message .It is a hugely complicated time consuming process apparently. Of course some fans may just conclude it is just more meaningless spin.
Simple. Coventry fans don't want a 12000 seater stadium that will mean we give up any ambition of Premier League.
Even Sisue don't really want it. A loyal few keep fighting their corner for them but they just provide something for us to laugh at and chastise.
Just do the figures, get back to the Ricoh and work on a relationship that will get the desired ownership and income.
Give up on your goal of using the club to make your money. In fact do us all a favour and fcku off.
What is this do to with anything? You have said the sale of the Ricoh effects the taxpayer? Doesn't it then?
Hold on - yesterday you said the Ricoh is worth £60 million. That would wipe the budget defecit for the council. So if it is worth that there have to be interested parties (which you always say there are) who would pay the price. This isn't about sisu its about the council. Surely with this £60 million goldmine it's gross negligence if they do not sell to one of these many interested parties isn't it?
Yes its an asset of Coventry City council / taxpayer and please explain why it should be given away for free or well below market value.
Maximise the asset and then they could offer some scrubland for SISU to buy and develop themselves.
Maybe we could have two football clubs..Coventry City and Coventry Utd.. one at the old ground and one at the new.
Like.
wouldnt be SISU if it wasnt a "hugely complicated time consuming process"
A hell of a lot more people would be all over a new gound if it wasn't Sisu behind the plans. All I'm bothered about it having us playing in Coventry (or just outside).
Sisu haven't got the money for a new stadium, it's a joke which is obvious given the lack of any real progress, obvious to any but the dim like Grendull.
Sisu go and a new fit and proper owner buy the Ricoh.
Otis...Let's say for instance we did a Southampton and suddenly got 2 promotions in 2 years and made the Premiership. This expansion nonsense of a new stadium simply couldn't keep up with such progress. We all know that if we had say a 15,000 stadium and were suddenly promoted, there is no way the stadium could be just expanded at the drop of a hat and in the close season.................................................................................................................................................................................................................This is the same scenario as Blackpool, restricted to 8-10k when promoted, and didn't have the financial backing to buy good players to "Make a fist" of staying up. Their ground capacity is now around 16-18k but nowhere near good enough to compete in the Premier League.
I think the real purpose of this thread has clearly gone above your head
Never mind
Yep.
Also we have to look at what the proposal for a new stadium would be. Hand on heart here (whatever side you are on), what do you think it will be? A brand new state of the art, brilliantly designed stadium, or a cheap build, get it up quick, cheap and cheery effort?
With money very much the issue here, I can only see it being the latter.
Could well be we move from an excellent Premiership standard stadium with great facilities, to a cheap build effort with less than half the capacity and something that simply wouldn't be able to compete at the highest level.
Not quite the same for me, Hill.
Personally I think it is incredibly short-sighted to be thinking of a 12,000-15,000 seater stadium (if that is what it is to be). The Ricoh is NOT too big for us. If we were top end of the Championship or in the Premier then we would be getting crowds in the 20,000's regularly.
Nowt wrong with the Ricoh. It's only the lack of success on the pitch that has made the place seem soulless.
Let's say for instance we did a Southampton and suddenly got 2 promotions in 2 years and made the Premiership. This expansion nonsense of a new stadium simply couldn't keep up with such progress.
We all know that if we had say a 15,000 stadium and were suddenly promoted, there is no way the stadium could be just expanded at the drop of a hat and in the close season.
For me I am totally against a new stadium because of the size of the stadium being mooted. Very narrow minded and short-sighted thinking. We need to be thinking bigger, because we all know that if we had the success on the pitch the crowds would rise significantly and would easliy be top 20,000 on a regular basis.
I think building something that is say 15,000 is defeatism and not forward thinking.
The key to everything is success on the pitch, not the stadium. If we had 25,000 at the Ricoh every week we wouldn't be in the mess we are now. How do we get 25,000 every week at the Ricoh? By having a successful CCFC team on the field of play.
The way things are being talked about is to splash out an awful lot of money for us to downsize and that for me is not the way to go, unless of course we just want to resign ourselves to being a lower league club for the foreseeable future.
Yes, the Ricoh is too big for us .... at the moment!
I am totally opposed to any new stadium because I feel this will be resigning ourselves into accepting we are just a lower league club and will remain that way.
The Ricoh is a fab stadium and is perfecty geared up for the Premiership and that surely has to be the ultimate aim for us hasn't it?
I just don't buy this expansion nonsense. The talk seems to be like we can just bolt something extra on with just a few weeks notice as soon as we have any success.
We have a perfectly decent stadium already here in Coventry and that is where we should play.
People seem to forget that the Ricoh is a high end championship/premiership quality stadium when they argue that "CCC bleeding us dry" and "the rent was too high"
How many clubs who are successful in the Premiership either don't own their stadium or don't have total access to matchday revenues?
Southampton would still be floundering if they'd had Coventry council to deal with.
How many clubs who are successful in the Premiership either don't own their stadium or don't have total access to matchday revenues?
Southampton would still be floundering if they'd had Coventry council to deal with.
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